Classic American West Coast Boxing

[kikibalt]

Freddie Roach vs. Richie Foster (Pat O'Grady in Foster's corner)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=q8B5UeSa ... re=related

Didn't see Tom in the Foster's corner

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[raylawpc]

Freddie Roach vs. Richie Foster (Pat O'Grady in Foster's corner)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=q8B5UeSa ... re=related

Didn't see Tom in the Foster's corner

Nope. By then, I was "retired" from boxing and working hard at practicing law.

[bennie]

Freddie Roach vs. Richie Foster (Pat O'Grady in Foster's corner)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=q8B5UeSa ... re=related

Didn't see Tom in the Foster's corner

Nope. By then, I was "retired" from boxing and working hard at practicing law.

Foster was a brave and aggressive Irish fighter who enjoyed success in the States under Pat O'Grady but left his best form in the amateurs.
As an amateur he stopped Dave McAuley, later to win the IBF flyweight title.

[Expug]

Great to hear from you Bennie.
Welcome back.

[bennie]

Great to hear from you Bennie.
Welcome back.

Cheers, mate. I've been offline a while but have just purchased one of these pay-as-you-go broadband dongles.

[THEHAMMER321]

Freddie Roach vs. Richie Foster (Pat O'Grady in Foster's corner)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=q8B5UeSa ... re=related

Saw this fight live at the showboat, Freddie was a regular at the boat probably fought there more than anyone.

[kikibalt]

Great to hear from you Bennie.
Welcome back.

Cheers, mate. I've been offline a while but have just purchased one of these pay-as-you-go broadband dongles.

Bennie, where the hell have you been?

[Rick Farris]

Didn't see Tom in the Foster's corner

Nope. By then, I was "retired" from boxing and working hard at practicing law.

Foster was a brave and aggressive Irish fighter who enjoyed success in the States under Pat O'Grady but left his best form in the amateurs.
As an amateur he stopped Dave McAuley, later to win the IBF flyweight title.

Welcome back, Bennie. We missed you. Thanks for the info on Foster.

[Rick Farris]

The Freddie Roach story . . .

Part-1 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VtHAMcNZ ... re=related
Part-2 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JWiuH7l4 ... re=related

[THEHAMMER321]

Was looking through some old books my wife collects, found a 1959 Americana, had the winners of the National AAU Championships [Boston,Mass, April 18-19 1958] 112 pounds.... Ray Perez, Hawaii
119 pounds.... Charles Branch, Philadelphia
125 pounds.... John Britt, Philadelphia
132 pounds.... Adam Ellison, Columbus, Ohio
139 pounds.... Vincent Shomo, New York
147 pounds.... Grey Gauvin, New York
156 pounds.....William Pickett, New York
165 pounds.... Jose Torres, New York
178 pounds.... Sylvester Banks, St. Louis
Heavyweight.... James Blythe Hartford, Conn

The only guy I know on this list is future
Light heavyweight champ Jose Torres, you guys know any of these other guys, also I wonder why no west coast fighters

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[THEHAMMER321]

Frank followed Tony's career up until the Roger Mayweather fight never saw him fight after,btw was big Jess driving Montoya's meat wagon at this
fight card

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Frank followed Tony's career up until the Roger Mayweather fight never saw him fight after,btw was big Jess driving Montoya's meat wagon at this
fight card

Yeah, Paul, big Jess was driving the bus....LOL!!

[kikibalt]

Was looking through some old books my wife collects, found a 1959 Americana, had the winners of the National AAU Championships [Boston,Mass, April 18-19 1958] 112 pounds.... Ray Perez, Hawaii
119 pounds.... Charles Branch, Philadelphia
125 pounds.... John Britt, Philadelphia
132 pounds.... Adam Ellison, Columbus, Ohio
139 pounds.... Vincent Shomo, New York
147 pounds.... Grey Gauvin, New York
156 pounds.....William Pickett, New York
165 pounds.... Jose Torres, New York
178 pounds.... Sylvester Banks, St. Louis
Heavyweight.... James Blythe Hartford, Conn

The only guy I know on this list is future
Light heavyweight champ Jose Torres, you guys know any of these other guys, also I wonder why no west coast fighters

Other than Torres, I also remember Vince Shomo, didn't do too good in the pros.
Reason for no west coast fighters? didn't win I guess....LOL!!

[Rick Farris]

Jerry Quarry vs. Ron Lyle . . .

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4dMaf97D ... e=related0


Quarry gave up 3" height, and 19 pounds to Lyle.
Jerry had his way with the unbeaten Lyle.
This was Jerry when he was on.

[Rick Farris]

Two REAL Heavyweights in action . . .

Frazier vs. Quarry I (6/23/69)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RqGZIYpO ... re=related

One of my favorite heavyweight bouts ever.
For just a couple rounds, Jerry Quarry gave us a thrill.
We who were a part of the Johnny Flores stable believed for just a moment that one of us would soon be the Heavyweight Champion of the World.
Of course, Joe Frazier had thoughts of his own. But Jerry did us proud that night.
I watched the fight in Glendale, at the Alex Theatre.
Quarry was challenging, but Frazier was superb.
I will never again see such action in a heavyweight fight. They can't do this anymore. They don't know how.
This video was posted here once before, but well worth a 2nd run, I believe.


-Rick Farris

[Rick Farris]

Quarry opinion?

I believe that Jerry Quarry is the best heavyweight to fight out of Los Angeles since the great Jim Jeffries.
If not, what Southern Cal heavyweight during the years since Jim Jeffries, was as good as Jerry Quarry?
I can't name one.


-Rick Farris

[THEHAMMER321]

Jerry Quarry vs. Ron Lyle . . .

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4dMaf97D ... e=related0


Quarry gave up 3" height, and 19 pounds to Lyle.
Jerry had his way with the unbeaten Lyle.
This was Jerry when he was on.

When
I was about 15 I used to hang out at this pool hall/arcade on Fremont street, I remember it was right before Holmes vs Cooney and these black dudes one who ran the place and the other a friend of his were talking to me about the fight and how Cooney was ''just another Jerry Quarry'' and would lose to Holmes, they acted as if Jerry Quarry was a bum, when I went home I got to talking to my dad and he told me the ''real story on Quarry'' he told me how he beat an unbeaten Mac Foster and also an unbeaten Ron Lyle and the hard punching Earnie Shavers, and some years later when YOUTUBE came out got to see for myself.

[Rick Farris]

Jerry Quarry vs. Ron Lyle . . .

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4dMaf97D ... e=related0


Quarry gave up 3" height, and 19 pounds to Lyle.
Jerry had his way with the unbeaten Lyle.
This was Jerry when he was on.

When
I was about 15 I used to hang out at this pool hall/arcade on Fremont street, I remember it was right before Holmes vs Cooney and these black dudes one who ran the place and the other a friend of his were talking to me about the fight and how Cooney was ''just another Jerry Quarry'' and would lose to Holmes, they acted as if Jerry Quarry was a bum, when I went home I got to talking to my dad and he told me the ''real story on Quarry'' he told me how he beat an unbeaten Mac Foster and also an unbeaten Ron Lyle and the hard punching Earnie Shavers, and some years later when YOUTUBE came out got to see for myself.

Paul . . . Your dad was right. Gerry Cooney was the kind of heavyweight that Jerry Quarry ruined.
Quarry would have taken a sadistic pleasure in sepearting Cooney from his unbeaten streak, and introducting him to the canvas.
Both named Jerry (Gerry), both labeled as "Irish", that's where the similarity ends.
When in the right frame of mind, Jerry Quarry was something special. Gerry Cooney was just a big white heavyweight.


-Rick Farris

[Rick Farris]

In Jerry Quarry's Dressing Room after Frazier-Quarry I . . .


Jerry was dejected after losing to Joe Frazier.
No sooner had Jerry, Johnny Flores, Teddy Bentham and Jack Quarry returned to Quarry's MSG dressing room, they had visitors.
The visitors were IRS agents. They came to collect "back taxes" owed by the Los Angeles heavyweight.
While they were there, they also garnished taxes from Jerry's father Jack's cut, and trainer Bentham's.

This angered both the fighter and his father.
Jack Quarry noticed that the IRS agents were interested in everybody associated with "Team Quarry" except Johnny Flores.
Jack complained and pointed at Flores, "What about him?"
The agents responded, "Mr. Flores had paid his taxes and is not a part of this." Insult to injury.

When Johnny told us of this a few days later, he smiled.


-Rick Farris

[raylawpc]

Quarry opinion?

I believe that Jerry Quarry is the best heavyweight to fight out of Los Angeles since the great Jim Jeffries.
If not, what Southern Cal heavyweight during the years since Jim Jeffries, was as good as Jerry Quarry?
I can't name one.


-Rick Farris

Aw, come on Rick. What about Jack Roper??

[Rick Farris]

Quarry opinion?

I believe that Jerry Quarry is the best heavyweight to fight out of Los Angeles since the great Jim Jeffries.
If not, what Southern Cal heavyweight during the years since Jim Jeffries, was as good as Jerry Quarry?
I can't name one.


-Rick Farris

Aw, come on Rick. What about Jack Roper??

Tom . . . As a kid I'd hear my grandfather talk of Jack Roper. Roper worked in the film industry and my grandfather was at Wrigley Field (L.A.) when Roper was KOed by Joe Louis in one round. My grandfather also knew Jerry Quarry. I never heard him compare Roper with Quarry, and I never saw Roper fight, so who knows? I think they were about the same size, might have made for an interesting fight? I remember when my grandfather told me of Jack Roper passing away at the Motion Picture Home shortly after I began boxing.

[raylawpc]

Quarry opinion?

I believe that Jerry Quarry is the best heavyweight to fight out of Los Angeles since the great Jim Jeffries.
If not, what Southern Cal heavyweight during the years since Jim Jeffries, was as good as Jerry Quarry?
I can't name one.


-Rick Farris

Aw, come on Rick. What about Jack Roper??

Tom . . . As a kid I'd hear my grandfather talk of Jack Roper. Roper worked in the film industry and my grandfather was at Wrigley Field (L.A.) when Roper was KOed by Joe Louis in one round. My grandfather also knew Jerry Quarry. I never heard my grandfather compare Roper with Quarry, and I never saw Roper fight, so who knows? I think they were about the same size, might have made for an interesting fight?

I meant it as a joke Rick. . . I just forgot to put in the " ." I know that Roper was no Jerry Quarry. He was just an opponent to showcase Louis to the West Coast boxing fans.

[Rick Farris]

Dick Donald (Jack Roper's manager)
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Dick Donald


Manager - Promoter - Matchmaker
Known as "the man with the [expensive] cigar," straw hat, and glib tongue, Richard (Dick) Donald promoted some of Southern California's biggest fights in the mid-1920s. Born in New York, Donald attended college at Oregon Agricultural College (now Oregon State University). Donald was the school's mascot, "Jimmie the Coyote." During his time in Oregon he became involved in managing Vancouver, Washington boxer Bud Anderson. Donald took Anderson to Los Angeles in 1912, where Anderson achieved some success and became a main event fighter.

Jack Doyle, famous for his promotions at the Vernon Arena, helped Donald get into the boxing promotion business. Donald staged shows in the Venice beach community during the middle 1910s, and at the Lyceum on Spring Street in downtown Los Angeles on Saturdays beginning in the early 1920s. The Lyceum operated on a small scale, compared to the bigger Vernon Arena and the Hollywood Legion Stadium.

After he quit promoting boxing shows at the Lyceum, Donald started promoting shows at Ascot Park--the second of four auto racing tracks which operated under that name in the Los Angeles area. He had his first outdoor show in 1925 with a program featuring Ace Hudkins vs. Tommy O'Brien, and Sammy Mandell vs. Phil Salvadore. The gate receipts were about $55,000, and attendance 28,000. After that successful show, he promoted the flyweight title bout between Frankie Genaro and Fidel LaBarba. (LaBarba won the World Flyweight Title, according to the California State Athletic Commission, but--because he was a minor--LaBarba was not so recognized by the New York State Athletic Commission.) Donald's shows hurt the gates and attendance at the Vernon Arena and the Olympic Auditorium. He was using boxers the matchmakers at both southern Los Angeles venues needed to draw big crowds.

But Donald wasn't making much money himself with his Ascot Park promotions, which led him in early 1927 to seek permission to stage shows at Wrigley Field, Los Angeles's new baseball park and home to the Pacific Coast League teams Los Angeles Angels and Hollywood Stars. Although he faced opposition from neighborhood citizens and some city officials, Donald was persuasive and eventually got the authority to stage shows every other week. This apparently upset Jack Doyle, Donald's old mentor, who was promoting weekly shows at the nearby Olympic Auditorium. Doyle would have difficulty drawing large crowds for the remainder of the year.

Donald didn't do too well at Wrigley Field, at first. There were relatively few fighters who could draw sufficiently large crowds at this large open-air venue. Then, on July 25, he presented the historic Ace Hudkins-Sergeant Sammy Baker bout, which broke all California gate-receipt records up to that time, estimated to be about $93,000 from some 30,000 fans. Later that year, after Donald was unable to come up with Joe Dundee's guarantee the night of a scheduled fight with Hudkins, the welterweight champion refused to enter the ring. Wrigley Field became a shambles as thousands of fans rioted and stormed the box office trying to get ticket refunds. This fiasco ended Donald's promotional career. He later became a matchmaker at the Olympic Auditorium for a few months in 1935. His "final coup" occurred April 17, 1939 at Wrigley Field, when he steered his client Jack Roper to a title bout with Joe Louis, which brought in more than 21,000 fans and $87,000 in gate receipts.

Donald died September 4, 1953, of a heart ailment at Queens of Angels Hospital, Los Angeles, after suffering a stroke August 26. He was 64. He left behind his widow Frankie; a son, Richard, Jr.; and two grandchildren, Richard III (age 9) and Linda (5). Edwards Bros. of Colonial Mortuary handled the funeral details.