That Eubank Uppercut.

[BoxBuzz]

This thread is creating far to much advertisement for the deadly and instantly fatal "45 degree death blow" Now that the secret is out, street fights are likely to become 73% more fatal, MMA will be heading into far more dangerous territory and boxing is doomed. This info in the hands of criminals is very concerning.

On the other hand, I'm selling my guns and replacing them with the trusty angle iron. Angel Irons need to be banned from all commercial aircraft as well.

[skelp]

2. If you say something, you are required to back it up. It is not on me to disprove your bullshit, rather it is on you to prove it.

What's the matter, too much effort required on your part.

[hitman09]

2. If you say something, you are required to back it up. It is not on me to disprove your bullshit, rather it is on you to prove it.

What's the matter, too much effort required on your part.

1. I don't waste my time on bullshit I know to be false.
2. You are missing a question mark.
3. What's the matter, too much effort required on your part?

[skelp]

How can you know its false, if you haven't taken the time to research it?

[hitman09]

How can you know its false, if you haven't taken the time to research it?

I know it is false because if it were true and there was evidence, you would have provided it, instead of telling me to go searching for evidence you know doesn't exist.

[Goodnight, Irene]

This guy Skelp is like a drunk-driver, lurching from one telegraph pole to the next. Every thread is a car-crash of logic.

[skelp]

This guy Skelp is like a drunk-driver, lurching from one telegraph pole to the next. Every thread is a car-crash of logic.

Cunny Funt.

[Goodnight, Irene]

I thought I was on Ignore for hurting your feelings?

Frankly, I prefer it that way.

[skelp]

I thought I was on Ignore for hurting your feelings?

Frankly, I prefer it that way.

You won't win.

[Goodnight, Irene]

...& you won't learn.

Before this gets too far off-topic, the last word's yours. I'm sure you'll make it count...

[Nelson Gateau]

Surely this Skelp is having a little laugh at our expense.

But having said that, there are still a surprising number of otherwise functional adult humans that believe Bruce Lee could have killed Ali, Dempsey, Marciano, and probably Emelianenko too, with one of his famouse 6 inch super punches (assuming it was being delivered at the rarely used 45 degree "kill angle").

[dberry]

Surely this Skelp is having a little laugh at our expense.

But having said that, there are still a surprising number of otherwise functional adult humans that believe Bruce Lee could have killed Ali, Dempsey, Marciano, and probably Emelianenko too, with one of his famouse 6 inch super punches (assuming it was being delivered at the rarely used 45 degree "kill angle").

I believe he could have, had he been twice his size.

[hhaehre]

Surely this Skelp is having a little laugh at our expense.

But having said that, there are still a surprising number of otherwise functional adult humans that believe Bruce Lee could have killed Ali, Dempsey, Marciano, and probably Emelianenko too, with one of his famouse 6 inch super punches (assuming it was being delivered at the rarely used 45 degree "kill angle").

I believe he could have, had he been twice his size.

He would also have needed stealth capabilities and maybe instead of hands, a pair of burning chain saws. Seriously, any top professional boxer would have laid the mother of all ass-whuppins on poor Bruce.

[Bricks]

LOL at this thread.

What's so funny? It's a serious issue, Let's not forget the tragic outcome for Watson.

I think by starting this tasteless thread you already have.

Keep your kung fool anecdotes to yourself. I wouldnt beleive anything chinese "martial artists" say. These are the same people who in their shanghai schools beleived their "chi" could protect them against bullets, and they went out and were slaughtered in the boxer rebellion as it is known.

A 46 year old self styled highest kung fu master and bruce lee's teacher (William cheung-see his world fastest punching demo on youtube) was beaten up to within an inch of his life by a 20 year old untrained turkish wrestler emin boztepe at a kung fu seminar of all places!

We have never once seen a so called kung fu master enter the UFC despite the fact in the early days it was created by the gracie family to match one martial art against another to see which style was best.

[dberry]

LOL at this thread.

What's so funny? It's a serious issue, Let's not forget the tragic outcome for Watson.

I think by starting this tasteless thread you already have.

Keep your kung fool anecdotes to yourself. I wouldnt beleive anything chinese "martial artists" say. These are the same people who in their shanghai schools beleived their "chi" could protect them against bullets, and they went out and were slaughtered in the boxer rebellion as it is known.

A 46 year old self styled highest kung fu master and bruce lee's teacher (William cheung-see his world fastest punching demo on youtube) was beaten up to within an inch of his life by a 20 year old untrained turkish wrestler emin boztepe at a kung fu seminar of all places!

We have never once seen a so called kung fu master enter the UFC despite the fact in the early days it was created by the gracie family to match one martial art against another to see which style was best.

There have only ever been, in the history of kickboxing, two genuine kickboxing champions from a traditional Kung Fu background, Don 'The Dragon' Wilson and Manson 'Master Blaster' Gibson. You would expect that in approximately thirty years and countless thousands of world title fights Kung Fu would account for more than two world champions.

[Bricks]

What's so funny? It's a serious issue, Let's not forget the tragic outcome for Watson.

I think by starting this tasteless thread you already have.

Keep your kung fool anecdotes to yourself. I wouldnt beleive anything chinese "martial artists" say. These are the same people who in their shanghai schools beleived their "chi" could protect them against bullets, and they went out and were slaughtered in the boxer rebellion as it is known.

A 46 year old self styled highest kung fu master and bruce lee's teacher (William cheung-see his world fastest punching demo on youtube) was beaten up to within an inch of his life by a 20 year old untrained turkish wrestler emin boztepe at a kung fu seminar of all places!

We have never once seen a so called kung fu master enter the UFC despite the fact in the early days it was created by the gracie family to match one martial art against another to see which style was best.

There have only ever been, in the history of kickboxing, two genuine kickboxing champions from a traditional Kung Fu background, Don 'The Dragon' Wilson and Manson 'Master Blaster' Gibson. You would expect that in approximately thirty years and countless thousands of world title fights Kung Fu would account for more than two world champions.

Don the dragon Wilson was a great athlete , actually a tremendous world champion in kickboxings heyday. WHen the UFC first emerged from the mind of a brazilian hollywood based stunt coordinator Rorian Gracie, its sad that so many of these "martial artists" or "kung fu masters" times came slightly too late to take part. Many of them got publicity off supposedly being challenged by the Gracies, such as Emin Boztepe, Don Wilson, Gene Le Bell but Ron Van Clief at 52 was the only one who stepped in the ring.

Ron was in terrific shape and a real fighter with a lifetime in martial arts including the 1982 world open weight fighting championship in Hong Kong which included fights on the floor but he couldnt protect himself against a Gracie.

[dberry]

Agreed, both Don Wilson and Manson Gibson where both great athletes and extraordinary fighters. I remember the early days of UFC when the Gracies appeared to be challenging every known martial artist. I also recall watching a Gracie promotional video involving a fight with boxer Art Jimmerson.

I recall Benny 'The Jet' Urquidez, Owner of The Jet Centre in L.A. where 'Judo' Gene La Belle, Don Wilson, Chuck Norris etc. often trained, throwing a challenge back at the Gracies and being declined. It's interesting to note that in order to earn a black belt in Chuck Norris' Karate system one must have also reached the equivalent to purple belt BJJ.

The late eighties and early nineties must have been exciting times in the martial arts scene in America, I wish I wasn't just reading about it from Australia.

[dberry]

BUMP Can't let Skelp's Opus leave the page just yet.

[Bricks]

Agreed, both Don Wilson and Manson Gibson where both great athletes and extraordinary fighters. I remember the early days of UFC when the Gracies appeared to be challenging every known martial artist. I also recall watching a Gracie promotional video involving a fight with boxer Art Jimmerson.

I recall Benny 'The Jet' Urquidez, Owner of The Jet Centre in L.A. where 'Judo' Gene La Belle, Don Wilson, Chuck Norris etc. often trained, throwing a challenge back at the Gracies and being declined. It's interesting to note that in order to earn a black belt in Chuck Norris' Karate system one must have also reached the equivalent to purple belt BJJ.

The late eighties and early nineties must have been exciting times in the martial arts scene in America, I wish I wasn't just reading about it from Australia.

Yes I can never forget the buzz and sheer enjoyment i got out of watching the first 6 or 7 UFCs. The sport was just unique and highly entertaining.
It seemed to bring all my "bloodsport" and "street fighter 2" fantasies to life!

I used to read martial arts illustrated magazines of the time and the boztepe-gracie feud was tremedous copy.

The other early NHB events such as world combat championships, Absolute fighting championships and World vale tudo in brazil were also tremendously edgy

But i do think by 1997-99 the UFC had become more symbolic of what we see these days of cross trained well rounded guys. PRIDE of course which came out in 97 and ran til 2006 in japan was the absolute pinnacle of MMA in my opinion as it maintained the edge and excitement of the early UFC's but also had huge crowds, production values etc that to this day the UFC hasnt come close to replicating. Everything about Pride ws unique, the gran prix tournaments, the ability to discover stars from the states, asia and europe out of nowhere. The occasional freak show match like a bob sapp against a smaller foe! heheh and of course the great Kazushi Sakuraba who i consider to have been every bit as influential in fighting history as almost any man.

[Counter-puncher]

Sakuraba