Tiger

[Ezzard]

How would Dick Tiger do against the great and good MWs who came after him?

Tiger versus…

Monzon

Valdez

Hagler

Hearns

Nunn

Toney

Hopkins

[granberry]

For me, a better question would be how would he do against the best middleweights--Tommy Ryan, Kid McCoy, Ketchel, Papke, Greb, Mickey Walker, Zale, Robinson.

Against anyone who met him head on Tiger was top level.

He could be outboxed by a skilled fioghter who managed to keep the fight at a distance.

A Billy Soose type would be harder for him to beat.

[Ezzard]

Against anyone who met him head on Tiger was top level.

He could be outboxed by a skilled fioghter who managed to keep the fight at a distance.

I totally agree with that. I think any aggressive fighter will have big trouble with Tiger.

[granberry]

As for your list, he would beat them all.

Monzon may have some chance of fighting a careful fight and possibly outpointing him. Maybe not.

[Mr E]

As for your list, he would beat them all.

Monzon may have some chance of fighting a careful fight and possibly outpointing him. Maybe not.

You have to remember that half, if not more, of Tiger's early "losses" were probably arranged -- and the other half were hometown decisions. That's an exaggeration of course but the point is that I don't know anyone who was involved in boxing in those days who believed Tiger's record was an accurate representation of how well he fought during his early career.

I'll never forget my dad introducing me to Gene Fullmer once when I was in about the 7th or 8th grade. Being a fan, I told him, "you would have beaten Dick Tiger in your prime!"

Gene was a total gentleman. He shook my hand and thanked me but added (and this is very close to verbatim), "no, son, I really don't think so. Dick Tiger was a GREAT fighter. He was just too good for me." Class guy.

[granberry]

Fullmer said to me: [referring to Tiger]

"I think he was the best boy I fought."

[ThatOne]

Another thread ruined as a consequence of granberry making the thread about himself.

[yancey]

Dick Tiger was one of the first fighters I watched as a kid in the '60s.

I can't say I was a big fan, but what I remember about the man was the sense of dignity about him.

He was esteemed in his war-torn native country and I believe he sent most of his winnings back home to help others there.

Sad that he passed away so early.

[granberry]

stalkers irene and TheOne arrive to trash the thread without a single word about Dick Tiger.

It drives internet 'boxing' posters like irene wild that Fullmer discussed in detail with me his impressions of and went over his fights with

Dick Tiger

Ray Robinson

Lausse

Gil Turner

Florentino Fernandez

Milo Savage

Basilio

Joe Miceli

and his comments on fighters he didn't fight

Georgie Benton

Holly Mims

Marciano

young Mike Tyson

Harold Johnson

It drives irene absolutely wild, since irene has never had any contact with anyone who had a fight with his own sister.

Meanwhile rabid Ali worshipper TheOne works in tandem with irene to trash threads like this without ever posting a single word about the topic of the thread.

boxrec is theirs to trash.

[ThatOne]

stalkers irene and TheOne arrive to trash the thread without a single word about Dick Tiger.

It drives internet 'boxing' posters like irene wild that Fullmer discussed in detail with me his impressions of and went over his fights with

Dick Tiger

Ray Robinson

Lausse

Gil Turner

Florentino Fernandez

Milo Savage

Basilio

Joe Miceli

and his comments on fighters he didn't fight

Georgie Benton

Holly Mims

Marciano

young Mike Tyson

Harold Johnson

It drives irene absolutely wild, since irene has never had any contact with anyone who had a fight with his own sister.

Meanwhile rabid Ali worshipper TheOne works in tandem with irene to trash threads like this without ever posting a single word about the topic of the thread.

boxrec is theirs to trash.

If you would provide some evidence to buttress your claims people wouldn't challenge you at every turn. Every poster on here sans you who claims some intimate knowledge of the sport provides evidence to support their claims be it photos with famous boxers, ring records, et cetera. All you offer is your own unverified recollections which I have proven beyond a reasonable doubt to be false.

Now go regale your fellow residents at the state mental institution with your imagined conversations with boxing luminaries of the past and delivering beverages to dehydrated fighters.


LOL

[BoxBuzz]

OK, we can assess each others opinions and that is all part of civil conversation. However Let's ratchet down the personal jabs ok. I happen to believe that granberry has had personal contact with many fighters in his life. I have no proof, I just happen to believe it. Maybe others do not. It's just a choice.

If someone here happens to post some documentation that seems to prove or disprove this or that regarding someones statement, I don't think it needs to follow that we make more of it than it is. We can all decide for ourselves who is credible and who is not. I'm not going let this degenerate into a name calling contest.

In another thread we talked about peoples opinions being just what they are. Let's let these opinions co exist peacefully. I want different styles to have a place here. No insults and no hatespeech are the rules. An opinion, no matter how marginal in terms of popular support is not an insult.

I want to see no more personal insults on this thread. (....That does not mean I want to see such nonsense on other threads)

[BoxBuzz]

By the way I think the one man that beats Tiger on that list is Monzon. Hagler probably as well.

[ThatOne]

OK, we can assess each others opinions and that is all part of civil conversation. However Let's ratchet down the personal jabs ok. I happen to believe that granberry has had personal contact with many fighters in his life. I have no proof, I just happen to believe it. Maybe others do not. It's just a choice.

If someone here happens to post some documentation that seems to prove or disprove this or that regarding someones statement, I don't think it needs to follow that we make more of it than it is. We can all decide for ourselves who is credible and who is not. I'm not going let this degenerate into a name calling contest.

In another thread we talked about peoples opinions being just what they are. Let's let these opinions co exist peacefully. I want different styles to have a place here. No insults and no hatespeech are the rules. An opinion, no matter how marginal in terms of popular support is not an insult.

I want to see no more personal insults on this thread. (....That does not mean I want to see such nonsense on other threads)

He needs to stop calling me out . I subscribe to Brother Malcom's axiom that "Be peaceful, be courteous, obey the law, respect everyone; but if someone puts his hand on you, send him to the cemetery."

[BoxBuzz]

Well then take care of it off the forum....there are no lethal words that will get that job done. But I am asking for civility. I'm going to warn the next person that breaks the rules and it's a 3 strikes and your out ball game. I really value everyone here, and I'd rather not have to work at this.

[ThatOne]

Well then take care of it off the forum....there are no lethal words that will get that job done. But I am asking for civility. I'm going to warn the next person that breaks the rules and it's a 3 strikes and your out ball game. I really value everyone here, and I'd rather not have to work at this.

It seems he gets to insult posters with impunity or make sarcastic remarks at their expense. I can name at least five posters who he tried to victimize. That seems manifestly unjust.

It's like in sports. It's not the person who starts the melee that gets penalized but the person that responds.

[BoxBuzz]

Well each of us will inherit our own set of unique consequences. I think you know what I"m asking here, and I know you don't agree with him much, and maybe you've notice he and I don't always see eye to eye either. But I sure would prefer to have everyone contributing and following the rules, then almost any other alternative you can imagine. lol.

I'll just leave it at that.

[ThatOne]

Well each of us will inherit our own set of unique consequences. I think you know what I"m asking here, and I know you don't agree with him much, and maybe you've notice he and I don't always see eye to eye either. But I sure would prefer to have everyone contributing and following the rules, then almost any other alternative you can imagine. lol.

I'll just leave it at that.

Fine, however I respectfully defy you to find one thread he participated in that doesn't ultimately become about him. Perhaps he should have his own forum.

[yancey]

Granberry is okay.

As a matter of fact, Irene and ThatOne are okay, too.

Even if they are Cabana Boys for Foreman and Ali, respectively.

[Goodnight, Irene]

Foreman is the greatest though. Seriously. Neither Ali or Frazier could come back as he did.

It's good when your man is the King 8)

[yancey]

Foreman is the greatest though. Seriously. Neither Ali or Frazier could come back as he did.

It's good when your man is the King 8)

Actually, the real King is the one who maximized the most out of his natural ability.

Of the three names you mention above, which one do you suppose went the furthest on the least?

Hmmnnn?