Mayweather vs Mosley Round By Round...

[hitman_hatton1]

only 1 fight makes sense right now.

mayweather-pac just has to get made.

they have to work out the issues.

crying shame if they don't. :(

[Srebmun]

Yeah to try and get him going, do you really think he would of! he took some right hands but certainly didn't take a beating.

Mosley looked old and lost in that ring, took more than some right hands.

Yeah whatever, if you think that should have been stopped you really shouldn't be watching boxing

Barbed comments and a rolleyes aren't really necessary, it's about opinion here.

Mosley was never gonna win that, after round 2 upto round 10 Mosley took an awful lot of head shots, having it snapped back over and over, he looked like a novice and was taking a beating, to the head. He's been in some serious wars, at this stage of his life he doesn't need to, if I suggest it a possibility he should be pulled out, as Nazim did - and he wasn't trying to motivate him, he was being real - it's an opinion, and not one that means I shouldn't watch boxing.

OK pal <wink>

[J]

and you are lirva and deserve to be banned
however floyd did the biz tonite , truly, i dont like the man but he would hold his own in the bastions of world great lighter weight fighters.
i say that begrudgingly but its a fact as far as i am concerned.
however true greatness will come with a convincing victory over pac.

id favour pbf. but shout for pac.

[Hagler2002]

Mosley was never gonna win that, after round 2 upto round 10 Mosley took an awful lot of head shots, having it snapped back over and over, he looked like a novice and was taking a beating, to the head. He's been in some serious wars, at this stage of his life he doesn't need to, if I suggest it a possibility he should be pulled out, as Nazim did - and he wasn't trying to motivate him, he was being real - it's an opinion, and not one that means I shouldn't watch boxing.

OK pal <wink>

He was getting well beat against Mayorga, did you want him pulled out of that fight after 11 rnds?

[rob12344]

and you are lirva and deserve to be banned
however floyd did the biz tonite , truly, i dont like the man but he would hold his own in the bastions of world great lighter weight fighters.
i say that begrudgingly but its a fact as far as i am concerned.
however true greatness will come with a convincing victory over pac.

id favour pbf. but shout for pac.

I don't think he is lirva..

[Srebmun]

and you are lirva and deserve to be banned
however floyd did the biz tonite , truly, i dont like the man but he would hold his own in the bastions of world great lighter weight fighters.
i say that begrudgingly but its a fact as far as i am concerned.
however true greatness will come with a convincing victory over pac.

id favour pbf. but shout for pac.

I don't think he is lirva..

Nope. Altho' I don't know the full history of lirva, I am aware the name gets mentioned, but no, not me.

I just have my opinion Hagler and that's what I felt after rd 10. Rd 11 was completely different and obv' he'd finish the fight, my agreed post was after the 10th.

But upto and including 10 he was taking some proper clean headshots - it's not about the Mayorga fight, as each fight on it's own merit. Mosley looked old, he looked gassed, he had no clue, I felt it was unnecessary to carry on taking said shots. His head was being snapped back often. He looked like he would be KO'd.

I'm glad he wasn't, cos in the last 2 he looked like he'd see it out.

[charlieb]

Fair play to Mayweather, he fought through some desperate moments and turned what looked like a very near trainwreck second round into a clinical and patient domination from the third round on.

Makes you wonder though, If every single one of the better opponents Floyd's faced, going back to Judah, has had some modicum of success in the early going, ranging from being outboxed by De La Hoya and Judah, to nearly being KO'd by Mosley... what level of success would Pacquiao have? A fighter who isn't past it, weight drained, shopworn, coming off a loss or coming up in weight?

Quite a bit, I'd say.

[Volpone]

Mosley was never gonna win that, after round 2 upto round 10 Mosley took an awful lot of head shots, having it snapped back over and over, he looked like a novice and was taking a beating, to the head. He's been in some serious wars, at this stage of his life he doesn't need to, if I suggest it a possibility he should be pulled out, as Nazim did - and he wasn't trying to motivate him, he was being real - it's an opinion, and not one that means I shouldn't watch boxing.

OK pal <wink>

He was getting well beat against Mayorga, did you want him pulled out of that fight after 11 rnds?

Well he was ahead on two of the judges' scorecards...

[Dan684]

Fair play to Mayweather, he fought through some desperate moments and turned what looked like a very near trainwreck second round into a clinical and patient domination from the third round on.

Makes you wonder though, If every single one of the better opponents Floyd's faced, going back to Judah, has had some modicum of success in the early going, ranging from being outboxed by De La Hoya and Judah, to nearly being KO'd by Mosley... what level of success would Pacquiao have? A fighter who isn't past it, weight drained, shopworn, coming off a loss or coming up in weight?

Quite a bit, I'd say.

How many more excuses do you want ? What about the DeLaHoya who was at 154 as opposed to 147? What about the Cotto who had been demolished and was a shell of aman when Pac fought him? What about a Hatton who'd already been blasted out by Floyd and had no trainiing camp ??

That kind of analysis worls both ways

[Hagler2002]

Mosley was never gonna win that, after round 2 upto round 10 Mosley took an awful lot of head shots, having it snapped back over and over, he looked like a novice and was taking a beating, to the head. He's been in some serious wars, at this stage of his life he doesn't need to, if I suggest it a possibility he should be pulled out, as Nazim did - and he wasn't trying to motivate him, he was being real - it's an opinion, and not one that means I shouldn't watch boxing.

OK pal <wink>

He was getting well beat against Mayorga, did you want him pulled out of that fight after 11 rnds?

Well he was ahead on two of the judges' scorecards...

Sorry, I wasn't aware they told the corners what the judges cards were in between rnds.

[Volpone]

He was getting well beat against Mayorga, did you want him pulled out of that fight after 11 rnds?

Well he was ahead on two of the judges' scorecards...

Sorry, I wasn't aware they told the corners what the judges cards were in between rnds.

All I was suggesting is that it isn't often a fighter is "getting well beat" only to be ahead on two scorecards going into the final round...

[Hagler2002]

Well he was, why do you think he went out looking for the KO in the 12th?

[rapid2]

Fair play to Mayweather, he fought through some desperate moments and turned what looked like a very near trainwreck second round into a clinical and patient domination from the third round on.

Makes you wonder though, If every single one of the better opponents Floyd's faced, going back to Judah, has had some modicum of success in the early going, ranging from being outboxed by De La Hoya and Judah, to nearly being KO'd by Mosley... what level of success would Pacquiao have? A fighter who isn't past it, weight drained, shopworn, coming off a loss or coming up in weight?

Quite a bit, I'd say.

it can also be argued that cotto,hatton,de la hoya all fell into that category when they fought pac.

[Volpone]

Well he was, why do you think he went out looking for the KO in the 12th?

He didn't... If you watch the round again, Mayorga was the one pressing the action, Mosely was happy to jab and box Mayorga, before he managed to catch him with a couple of big hooks which set up the KO. If anything, Mayorga was the one looking for the KO! And also, it's not like Mosely isn't known for getting involved in a big scrap in the 12th round!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=J2oTL5tfckQ

[charlieb]

Fair play to Mayweather, he fought through some desperate moments and turned what looked like a very near trainwreck second round into a clinical and patient domination from the third round on.

Makes you wonder though, If every single one of the better opponents Floyd's faced, going back to Judah, has had some modicum of success in the early going, ranging from being outboxed by De La Hoya and Judah, to nearly being KO'd by Mosley... what level of success would Pacquiao have? A fighter who isn't past it, weight drained, shopworn, coming off a loss or coming up in weight?

Quite a bit, I'd say.

How many more excuses do you want ? What about the DeLaHoya who was at 154 as opposed to 147? What about the Cotto who had been demolished and was a shell of aman when Pac fought him? What about a Hatton who'd already been blasted out by Floyd and had no trainiing camp ??

That kind of analysis worls both ways

There's little doubt that Pacquiao's enjoyed some of the same handicapping against opponents common to both men's records, that's true enough, it's also beside the point I was making. I wasn't trying to 'one-up' Pacquiao by downgrading Mayweather's opponents, Pacquiao's already achieved that through the ease in which he dispatched those same men. I'm simply pointing out a pattern of fighting that's become evident with Mayweather and the potential for it to be exploited by someone who doesn't bring any diminishing factors to the argument.

Mayweather has needed time to work out the better opponents he's faced and that's a clear window of opportunity for an absolutely prime whirling dervish capable of rare bursts of speed coupled with the skill and the proven power to end things at the drop of a dime.

Mayweather was in deep, deep trouble tonight, how close was Shane to doing the unthinkable? I'd say extremely close, certainly close enough to imagine Pacquiao being capable of a similar feat.

Don't get me wrong though, I'm not saying Pacquiao's guaranteed success just because others have managed it, I just like his chances, especially early on.

[charlieb]

Fair play to Mayweather, he fought through some desperate moments and turned what looked like a very near trainwreck second round into a clinical and patient domination from the third round on.

Makes you wonder though, If every single one of the better opponents Floyd's faced, going back to Judah, has had some modicum of success in the early going, ranging from being outboxed by De La Hoya and Judah, to nearly being KO'd by Mosley... what level of success would Pacquiao have? A fighter who isn't past it, weight drained, shopworn, coming off a loss or coming up in weight?

Quite a bit, I'd say.

it can also be argued that cotto,hatton,de la hoya all fell into that category when they fought pac.

See my reply to Dan, covers the same missed point.

[Deserter]

floyd has a granite chin.

Let's just calm down a bit eh Rob? Mayweather's performance was sublime, but that's probably the first time I've ever seen him tagged cleanly with a big right-hnad and it wobbled him badly, hardly evidence of a granite chin.
Granite-chinned fighters are those who can soak up shots like that time-after-time without wobbling.
Mayweather showed good composure to recover and great heart to come back so quickly to take the play away, but granite-chinned?

[Deno1986]

and you are lirva and deserve to be banned
however floyd did the biz tonite , truly, i dont like the man but he would hold his own in the bastions of world great lighter weight fighters.
i say that begrudgingly but its a fact as far as i am concerned.
however true greatness will come with a convincing victory over pac.

id favour pbf. but shout for pac.

Srebmun definitely isn't Lirva. He is a very good poster and I don't understand why people are having a pop at him, he is simply offering his opinion, a very valid one at that.

[rob12344]

floyd has a granite chin.

Let's just calm down a bit eh Rob? Mayweather's performance was sublime, but that's probably the first time I've ever seen him tagged cleanly with a big right-hnad and it wobbled him badly, hardly evidence of a granite chin.
Granite-chinned fighters are those who can soak up shots like that time-after-time without wobbling.
Mayweather showed good composure to recover and great heart to come back so quickly to take the play away, but granite-chinned?

I just thought those right hands were perfect punches to the point of the chin. Mosley really couldn't have hit Floyd any better if he had a free punch. Two of them bang on the point of the chin from Shane Mosley loading up. Floyd then comes back and pressures Mosley in the same round. His chin is solid in my opinion. Put it this way, I can't see Pacman absorbing those shots. On the replay, they were really perfect punches right on the sweet spot. If they had landed on my chin, I'd still be out cold I reckon.

[Carbo]

floyd has a granite chin.

Let's just calm down a bit eh Rob? Mayweather's performance was sublime, but that's probably the first time I've ever seen him tagged cleanly with a big right-hnad and it wobbled him badly, hardly evidence of a granite chin.
Granite-chinned fighters are those who can soak up shots like that time-after-time without wobbling.
Mayweather showed good composure to recover and great heart to come back so quickly to take the play away, but granite-chinned?

I just thought those right hands were perfect punches to the point of the chin. Mosley really couldn't have hit Floyd any better if he had a free punch. Two of them bang on the point of the chin from Shane Mosley loading up. Floyd then comes back and pressures Mosley in the same round. His chin is solid in my opinion. Put it this way, I can't see Pacman absorbing those shots. On the replay, they were really perfect punches right on the sweet spot. If they had landed on my chin, I'd still be out cold I reckon.

Same round?? Really? Are you sure. Looked like he held on for the whole time to me. Next round, certainly.

Floyd has a certifiable solid chin, though. What was impressive was that (1) He took those punches as well as anyone could have (although Mosley landed those same shots on Margarito every single round, note; but Margarito has a ridiculous chin) and (2) Floyd knows how to deal with being hurt: he handled the situation brilliantly -- a textbook case of how to handle being hurt, really.

But, what I saw in that match was a man who was 38, coming of 16 months of what might as well be called semi retirement, making a big effort in the second and then seemingly having NOTHING to give.

Floyd has gone up in my estimation after this fight, because now I know that even on the rare occasions when his defence is pierced, he can handle it; but I'm not adding much to his legacy from this fight, if you know what I mean, because I have suspicions about Mosley's state.

Hope that makes sense.

[whiskey]

Mosley looked really weak during the final episode of 24/7 like he was tortured to make weight.

He started brightly but faded fast.

All in all a crap fight and one I wont be re-watching.

[Gizzle]

Mayweather can't have been hurt as badly as people are suggesting. Showed a lot of wherewithal in ignoring his cornerman at the end of the second and searching for the replay of the Mosley shots on the big screen. Guess he saw them as he didn't make the same mistake again.

Good comments, you know how to read between the lines.

[stujones]

Mayweather can't have been hurt as badly as people are suggesting. Showed a lot of wherewithal in ignoring his cornerman at the end of the second and searching for the replay of the Mosley shots on the big screen. Guess he saw them as he didn't make the same mistake again.

THATS what made this such a damn good performance in my eyes. Mayweather's reaction to the shot, and him not doing the same mistake.

Its rare for him, but as he told Merchant - you cannot expect not to get tagged.... His reaction was impressive. Even the way he held Mosley was impressive.

If he didn't have hand trouble and a little more power..... well he's an incredible boxer as it is....

[Srebmun]

Mayweather can't have been hurt as badly as people are suggesting. Showed a lot of wherewithal in ignoring his cornerman at the end of the second and searching for the replay of the Mosley shots on the big screen. Guess he saw them as he didn't make the same mistake again.

Not only that, he actually caught Mosley with just as good shots in the 2nd, before and after taking the clean shots. You could argue against it being a Mosley round. Mayweather outboxed him, landing clean shots, several of them, to Mosley's couple (<<<----- edit: I'm obv' wrong with this)

I watched the 2nd rd a few times again y/day and one could just as easily give the round to Mayweather. I wonder what the compubox stats are for the round.

edit to add. Just read a partial document that Mosley landed 13 power shots in rd 2. But I can't get to the link (work proxy) can anyone post the compubox stats for the fight, please.

[Srebmun]

^^ ignore last post.

"The opening six minutes of action seemed to portend a night of drama as Mosley achieved a rare level of success against Mayweather’s shell game. Averaging 40.5 punches per round to Mayweather’s 24.5, Mosley piled up connect advantages of 29-18 (overall), 12-8 (jabs) and 17-10 (power)."