Witter Vs Magee

Twinkle Toes · Post by **Twinkle Toes** » 20 Mar 2005, 06:44

Refreshingly we saw Magee call out Witter, and I would like to see this fight made.

While Witter is busy calling out fighters which aren't interested in him (no change there then) he only has to look on his own doorstep for a decent challenge.

I'm also interested to see how Witter reacts to himself actually being called out.

TBA · Post by **TBA** » 20 Mar 2005, 07:54

An interesting match for us this side of the atlantic but id prefer to see him cement his place, name and reputation in america beforehand. For both Witter and Hatton, I think the only time Eammon should be an option is coming back from a loss or to give their first defence of a title in England.

Id prefer Witter fights Branco in an eliminator, the WBC should be firm and if Branco pulls out again then should have somebody replace him in eliminator status.

dondada · Post by **dondada** » 20 Mar 2005, 08:31

TBA wrote:An interesting match for us this side of the atlantic but id prefer to see him cement his place, name and reputation in america beforehand. For both Witter and Hatton, I think the only time Eammon should be an option is coming back from a loss or to give their first defence of a title in England.

Id prefer Witter fights Branco in an eliminator, the WBC should be firm and if Branco pulls out again then should have somebody replace him in eliminator status.

Agreed. Now Witter has some clout in the US with Golden Boy Promotions, there's less chance he'll be totally left out in the cold. He should persue those options.

He'd absolutely wreck Magee anyway, in my opinion, as much as I like and respect the Terminator.

Witter's power is something else.

Phenomenal-Nutrition · Post by **Phenomenal-Nutrition** » 20 Mar 2005, 09:00

I'd like to see Witter-Harris - but would it sell?

Smit · Post by **Smit** » 20 Mar 2005, 14:08

Phenomenal-Nutrition wrote:I'd like to see Witter-Harris - but would it sell?

I'd like to see that too but it wouldn't sell well... I'd guess the fight would be staged in the US where neither fighter is a big draw... only way it'd sell is if there was a good undercard or a good main event

TBA · Post by **TBA** » 20 Mar 2005, 14:12

Remember Harris last fight against Urkal he was greatful of how he was treated by the German public and said he wants his next fight there. Well perhaps a Witter-Urkal fight could be made there, though it would have to probably be on the undercard.

Saying that isnt Harris required to fight Mbaye next who won the eliminator against Kotelnik(sp?). That would likely take place in france and if Mbaye could win then a visit to France for Mbaye could be the best option.

josh fg · Post by **josh fg** » 21 Mar 2005, 13:06

assuming that Witter will get rid of Magee quite quikly it would be a good marking time fight for him. I don't see why they can't work something out in the Kings hall in Bellfast.

lirva33 · Post by **lirva33** » 21 Mar 2005, 13:12

Witter shouldn't bother with Magee. It's onwards and upwards for Witter from here on in and Magee doesn't present much of a challenge. Witter is looking at the Cotto's, Mayweathers's, Harris's etc.

A real fighter.

Loynesy · Post by **Loynesy** » 21 Mar 2005, 13:14

He might be looking at them, but he's showing no signs of actually fighting them

lirva33 · Post by **lirva33** » 21 Mar 2005, 13:17

Loynesy wrote:He might be looking at them, but he's showing no signs of actually fighting them

Ndou was a giant leap in the right direction and unfortunately he hurt his hand which prevented a KO, but with DLH behind him he'll get his shot. Cotto, Mayweather... Witter doesn't care who it is. He'll win a legit title. (Not a WBU title).

Loynesy · Post by **Loynesy** » 21 Mar 2005, 13:19

Lirva - apologies if I'm being too reactionary, I would back Witter against Harris, make it 50-50 against Gatti but have him as a long odds favourite against Cotto, Mayweather or Kostya.

Phenomenal-Nutrition · Post by **Phenomenal-Nutrition** » 21 Mar 2005, 13:21

lirva33 wrote:Witter shouldn't bother with Magee. It's onwards and upwards for Witter from here on in and Magee doesn't present much of a challenge. Witter is looking at the Cotto's, Mayweathers's, Harris's etc.

A real fighter.

He might be looking at them but he won't get a fight with them in the next 6months.

lirva33 · Post by **lirva33** » 21 Mar 2005, 14:00

Phenomenal-Nutrition wrote:
lirva33 wrote:Witter shouldn't bother with Magee. It's onwards and upwards for Witter from here on in and Magee doesn't present much of a challenge. Witter is looking at the Cotto's, Mayweathers's, Harris's etc.

A real fighter.
He might be looking at them but he won't get a fight with them in the next 6months.

Harris is open to negotiation. Cotto may fight him. If not, I'm sure Oscar will find a credible opponent. DO you think Oscar would like to see Witter come over and fight in England against Magee? Oscar has a 3 fight deal with Witter.

Bard of Boxrec · Post by **Bard of Boxrec** » 21 Mar 2005, 15:46

plus witter would probably have to face magee at welter which wouldn't necessarily suit him.

Phenomenal-Nutrition · Post by **Phenomenal-Nutrition** » 21 Mar 2005, 16:25

lirva33 wrote:
Phenomenal-Nutrition wrote:
lirva33 wrote:Witter shouldn't bother with Magee. It's onwards and upwards for Witter from here on in and Magee doesn't present much of a challenge. Witter is looking at the Cotto's, Mayweathers's, Harris's etc.

A real fighter.
He might be looking at them but he won't get a fight with them in the next 6months.
Harris is open to negotiation. Cotto may fight him. If not, I'm sure Oscar will find a credible opponent. DO you think Oscar would like to see Witter come over and fight in England against Magee? Oscar has a 3 fight deal with Witter.

Cotto fight certainly won't happen (Arum and Hoya hate each other). Harris-Witter wouldnt pull much money - both don't have big fan bases, hence it won't happen.

Delahoya cant sell things that won't sell.

Smit · Post by **Smit** » 21 Mar 2005, 18:51

Phenomenal-Nutrition wrote: Cotto fight certainly won't happen (Arum and Hoya hate each other). Harris-Witter wouldnt pull much money - both don't have big fan bases, hence it won't happen.

Delahoya cant sell things that won't sell.

But he can put it on an Undercard easy enough

lirva33 · Post by **lirva33** » 21 Mar 2005, 18:57

Phenomenal-Nutrition wrote:
lirva33 wrote:
Phenomenal-Nutrition wrote: He might be looking at them but he won't get a fight with them in the next 6months.
Harris is open to negotiation. Cotto may fight him. If not, I'm sure Oscar will find a credible opponent. DO you think Oscar would like to see Witter come over and fight in England against Magee? Oscar has a 3 fight deal with Witter.
Cotto fight certainly won't happen (Arum and Hoya hate each other). Harris-Witter wouldnt pull much money - both don't have big fan bases, hence it won't happen.

Delahoya cant sell things that won't sell.

HBO love DLH. Have you ever heard Merchant commentating on a DLH fight?

Why do Arum and Hoya hate each other? Money I presume?

Phenomenal-Nutrition · Post by **Phenomenal-Nutrition** » 21 Mar 2005, 20:35

lirva33 wrote:
Phenomenal-Nutrition wrote:
lirva33 wrote: Harris is open to negotiation. Cotto may fight him. If not, I'm sure Oscar will find a credible opponent. DO you think Oscar would like to see Witter come over and fight in England against Magee? Oscar has a 3 fight deal with Witter.
Cotto fight certainly won't happen (Arum and Hoya hate each other). Harris-Witter wouldnt pull much money - both don't have big fan bases, hence it won't happen.

Delahoya cant sell things that won't sell.
HBO love DLH. Have you ever heard Merchant commentating on a DLH fight?

Why do Arum and Hoya hate each other? Money I presume?

Arrum used to promote Hoya, Hoya left him, Arrum lost lots of dollars, Arrum makes comments about Hoya like Hoya Quit against Hopkins etc.

Just because HBO loves DLH doesn't make it too much easier to sell Witter fights if the US public dislike Witter.

So which belt holder can Witter get? Zoo - better things to do, Hatton (if by miracle he wins) outside chance but Hatton would make Witter wait along time, Cotto - no managed by Arrum, Gatti-Mayweather winner MAYBE but they'll probably fight Zoo/Cotto/Harris. What about Harris - Witter isn't ranked too high in the WBA and Harris (is fighting a Frenchy next) doesn't want a dangerous fighter that won't bring big bucks.

That leaves Witter with titbits like Magee, Branco, Tackie, Corley, Ukral, Stewart etc to chew on to prove he deserves his shot

Freiheit · Post by **Freiheit** » 21 Mar 2005, 20:54

Phenomenal-Nutrition wrote:
lirva33 wrote:
Phenomenal-Nutrition wrote: Cotto fight certainly won't happen (Arum and Hoya hate each other). Harris-Witter wouldnt pull much money - both don't have big fan bases, hence it won't happen.

Delahoya cant sell things that won't sell.
HBO love DLH. Have you ever heard Merchant commentating on a DLH fight?

Why do Arum and Hoya hate each other? Money I presume?
Arrum used to promote Hoya, Hoya left him, Arrum lost lots of dollars, Arrum makes comments about Hoya like Hoya Quit against Hopkins etc.

Just because HBO loves DLH doesn't make it too much easier to sell Witter fights if the US public dislike Witter.

So which belt holder can Witter get? Zoo - better things to do, Hatton (if by miracle he wins) outside chance but Hatton would make Witter wait along time, Cotto - no managed by Arrum, Gatti-Mayweather winner MAYBE but they'll probably fight Zoo/Cotto/Harris. What about Harris - Witter isn't ranked too high in the WBA and Harris (is fighting a Frenchy next) doesn't want a dangerous fighter that won't bring big bucks.

That leaves Witter with titbits like Magee, Branco, Tackie, Corley, Ukral, Stewart etc to chew on to prove he deserves his shot

You can scrap Stewart, lost last week, and Urkal, moving up to welter, from that list.

celticwarrior · Post by **celticwarrior** » 21 Apr 2005, 10:35

josh fg wrote:assuming that Witter will get rid of Magee quite quikly it would be a good marking time fight for him. I don't see why they can't work something out in the Kings hall in Bellfast.

Just been looking back through some old threads and spotted this one. Where does the assumption come from that Witter would "get rid of Magee quite quickly"! No one has ever stopped Magee or come close to it. Sure Witter can punch but Magee can bang a bit too. I personaly think it would be a distance fight and a stinker too. Neither man would want to commit first and it would be a real cat and mouse affair. I can't see it happening anyway but if it did for me there's no way Witter stops Magee.

Shirow · Post by **Shirow** » 21 Apr 2005, 11:28

lirva33 wrote:
Phenomenal-Nutrition wrote:
lirva33 wrote: Harris is open to negotiation. Cotto may fight him. If not, I'm sure Oscar will find a credible opponent. DO you think Oscar would like to see Witter come over and fight in England against Magee? Oscar has a 3 fight deal with Witter.
Cotto fight certainly won't happen (Arum and Hoya hate each other). Harris-Witter wouldnt pull much money - both don't have big fan bases, hence it won't happen.

Delahoya cant sell things that won't sell.
HBO love DLH. Have you ever heard Merchant commentating on a DLH fight?

Why do Arum and Hoya hate each other? Money I presume?

Since this thread has been resurrected...

I'm sure Arum loves $$$ more than he hates ODH.

MAB v Morales III was also ODH v Arum wasn't it?

nickd · Post by **nickd** » 21 Apr 2005, 14:27

I think Witter would stop Magee, he can really whack these days. I dont see it happening though would be like a backward step for Witter I think.

stujones · Post by **stujones** » 21 Apr 2005, 15:42

I don't want their paths to cross. Magee should focus on the Welterweights. Witter on the Light Welters for the time being.

Outside of maybe 2-3 fighters there are geniune world title that Magee CAN win at Welter (so could Witter if he wants to move up).

This is of course, it is the old Magee that is boxing (the signals were okay vs Vester).

The guy who beat Jose Riveria for the WBA Welter title (Luis Collazo) isn't much cop. Magee can beat him.

kevo · Post by **kevo** » 22 Apr 2005, 18:05

Talking of welters, whats happened to Khaliq? If Magee could beat him he'd be in the mix on the world scene, as Jawaid's now rakned 6 by the ring.

mickeybeard · Post by **mickeybeard** » 22 Apr 2005, 18:54

How on earth is he ranked #6? The man's fallen off the face of the earth.