Alex Zolkin
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Pr1zefighter44
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Zolkin didn't go downhill after his loss to Henry Akinwande. He retired and moved back to Moscow. In 1999 he returned to America and made a comeback, running up a record of 3-0-1 before quitting again. His draw was against Elicier Castillo.
Did anyone see the Zolkin-Castillo fight? Who really got the better of who that night?
Another thing about Zolkin: he would not have been TKOd by Akinwande if not for the cut he suffered in training six months prior to the fight. It had not healed completely when Akinwande ripped it open.
As a matter of fact, I don't think the Zolkin-Akinwande bout should have been stopped. Zolkin was cut, sure, but he was fighting on even terms with the Nigerian and he wasn't taking much punishment. Zolkin had great stamina and he might have won the final two rounds.
Did anyone see the Zolkin-Castillo fight? Who really got the better of who that night?
Another thing about Zolkin: he would not have been TKOd by Akinwande if not for the cut he suffered in training six months prior to the fight. It had not healed completely when Akinwande ripped it open.
As a matter of fact, I don't think the Zolkin-Akinwande bout should have been stopped. Zolkin was cut, sure, but he was fighting on even terms with the Nigerian and he wasn't taking much punishment. Zolkin had great stamina and he might have won the final two rounds.
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I saw Zolking fight Anthony Willis (who was just taken apart my Michael Grant), and although he floored Willis in the sixth, he looked slow and he got hit A LOT. He won a decision but to be honest, Zolking looked shot in that fight. This was either shortly before or right after the Akinwande fight.
As far as the excuse about the cut being an old injury, those are the breaks, if the shoe would have been on the other foot I'm sure Zolkin would have been given credit for beating up Akinwande. I agree though, Zolkin was coming on at the end of the fight but remember that he was hurt and down at the beginning. That lump on his head was grotesque.
He was right to end his career, he was taking way too many shots against average fighters. Oh, and I am a Zolkin fan by the way.
As far as the excuse about the cut being an old injury, those are the breaks, if the shoe would have been on the other foot I'm sure Zolkin would have been given credit for beating up Akinwande. I agree though, Zolkin was coming on at the end of the fight but remember that he was hurt and down at the beginning. That lump on his head was grotesque.
He was right to end his career, he was taking way too many shots against average fighters. Oh, and I am a Zolkin fan by the way.
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I disagree with you whiteguy. Alex didn't get hit that much against Willis; it's just that those few times Willis did connect, he impressed people with his power.Anonymous wrote:I saw Zolking fight Anthony Willis (who was just taken apart my Michael Grant), and although he floored Willis in the sixth, he looked slow and he got hit A LOT. He won a decision but to be honest, Zolking looked shot in that fight. This was either shortly before or right after the Akinwande fight.
As far as the excuse about the cut being an old injury, those are the breaks, if the shoe would have been on the other foot I'm sure Zolkin would have been given credit for beating up Akinwande. I agree though, Zolkin was coming on at the end of the fight but remember that he was hurt and down at the beginning. That lump on his head was grotesque.
He was right to end his career, he was taking way too many shots against average fighters. Oh, and I am a Zolkin fan by the way.
Against Willis Zolkin looked so-so chiefly because he was so mechanical. And he didn't go for the knockout because of his respect for Willis' power.
The Zolkin-Willis fight took place in November, 1995. This was a full 14 months prior to the Akinwande bout, and it was Alex's last match prior to meeting Akinwande. Hence, ring rust was a factor in Zolkin's loss to Akinwande.
I think Zolkin should have continued. He wouldn't have been a contender, but he probably would have whipped everyone outside of the top ten. I think he was definitely better than Axel Schulz, Franz Botha, Brian Neilson, Jeremy Williams, and all the other guys who fought on the fringes of the top ten during the late '90s.
Incidentally, I am Ghetto Whopper. From the Eastside boxing board.
Therefore you are wrong.
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I have a tape of Zolkin-Willis. It took place in November, 1995. Al won easily; his victory was hands down. Willis landed a handful of good rights during the fight, but they were isolated blows. He could never follow up with additional punches. These right hands were impressive more for their sonic boom than the effect they had on Al.Anonymous wrote:Ghetto Whopper, you're obviously not real knowledgable about boxing. Was the Zolkin/Willis fight the first boxing match you ever saw? Maybe you should watch it again with an adult and they can tell you when the punches land. Also, what gives with pretending to be black?
True, it was an unimpressive win for Zolkin. He was indeed caught occassionally by the right hands, and although not really affected by the punches, all observers realized that Al might not have the defensive skills to hang in their with a Riddick Bowe or Lennox Lewis.
But your account of this fight is deeply in error.
Who are you to tell me what race I am, whiteguy?
I am Ghetto Whopper. Come to The Eastside and debate me. Anytime.
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jesus
u know your patronising tone is not the way to get you point across, so perhaps your silly little boxing board should teach you some communication skills!!! ![[icon_e_biggrin.gif] :D](./images/smilies/icon_e_biggrin.gif)
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With respect to the Zolkin of Russia vs. Willis fight, I agree with all your points. I never denied that Al looked pedestrian, whiteguy. However, it's important to note that Zolkin won the fight hands-down. The judges favored him by a very wide margin. He never got hit so much that the outcome was in doubt. He was never hurt. He just looked disturbingly mechanical and unimpressive.samuel wrote:Ghetto Whopper. I have read your posts on the other board and I seem to recall you getting ridiculed quite often. The race issue has been raised many times. I also have no idea why you pretend to be black. I saw the Zolkin/Willis fight and I suggest you watch it again. True, Zolkin won, but he got tagged repeatedly, had very porous defense and with the exception of the knockdown in 6, he didn't look impressive at all.
And what's this crap about me pretending to be Black, whiteguy? Who are you to be telling other posters what race they are without having seen there face? That's what I call arrogance. A white man's arrogance.
As for me being ridiculed, whiteguy, I challenge you to come the Eastside anytime for debate. I'll serve you your ass.
Finally, I want you to admit on this board that Alex Zolkin was a solid top-15 heavyweight. Maybe not top ten, but unquestionably top-15.
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You're full of crap. I question whether you even saw the fights you're talking about.samuel wrote:Yes, I am a whiteguy, thank you for the compliment. I will now refer to you as "dipsh*t" as that seems to be as fitting a description for you as "whiteguy" is for me.
Anyway dipsh*t, it's true that the outcome was never in doubt but the point is that if Zolkin was truly a solid contender, he should have looked better than he did. He was taking too many flush shots from a very average fighter (who came to the fight on very short notice). I think that Zolkin was maybe a legit top 20 guy but judging by his struggles with Tubbs (1-1, both close), Mike Hunter (1-1), his getting dropped and dominated for MOST of his fight with Akinwande, a VERY close fight with James Gaines, and the Willis fight, I cannot think of him as top 15.
Dipsh*t, next time you choose to debate me, please do your homework so as to give me at least a mild challenge.
The second Tony Tubbs fight was not close. Al Berstein, who did the live commentary for ESPN, had Zolkin winning ten of 12 rounds. I scored it 7-2-3 for Zolkin, and that's because I gave Tubbs every last benefit of the doubt. The judges of that fight were either incompetent or corrupt. Al dominated.
As for the first Tubbs fight, many, many observers believe that Zolkin deserved the nod. Had the bout not taken place in Detroit Al probably would have been given the decision.
The first Mike Hunter fight was very close; Hunter, in fact, took a beating in the final two rounds and was brought to the hospital afterward. The rematch was one-sided, with Al winning virtually every round.
Also, do you have a reading comprehension problem? I never said Zolkin was a "solid contender". I merely said he was probably the best heavy of his day outside of the top ten or twelve.