Classic American West Coast Boxing
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THEHAMMER321
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Btw Frank, the beehive lady at the doctors office was hoping you were there to get some viagra.
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raylawpc wrote:Rick - it's Streisand, right?
That's a NO!
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Perez basically 'ruined' Paul in a gruelling 15-rounder. Paul got the nod but was never really the same.kikibalt wrote:Paulino, I remember Perez real good, he was fighting here in LA at the same time Tony and Frankie were, he has a brother that also fought pro, Tomas Perez. Last I heard Cubanito was living in L.V.THEHAMMER321 wrote:anybody remember Irleis ''cubanito'' Perez I thought he was a real good lightweight he fought Hector Camacho on T.V back before Hector became a ''track star'' and he gave him a good fight he moved out to Vegas and had a shot at Jimmy Pauls title but lost a close decision after that had a few more fights then retired anybody heard anything about him where is at
Btw Tony and Cubanito fought in the GG with with Perez winning.
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Hacienda Heights man pens biography on famous boxer Bert "The Whittier Flash" Colima
By Sandra T. Molina, Staff Writer
Bert W. Colima has written a book about his late father, Bert Colima known as the "The Whittier Flash" a Mexican-American fighter in the 20s and 30s who was a middleweight champion in Hacienda Heights. (SGVN/Staff Photo by Keith Birmingham)
It's not every day an 8-year-old gets to meet the "greatest heavyweight champion of all time."
But that's what happened to Hacienda Heights resident Bert W. Colima when his father introduced him to Joe Louis.
And how did the boy get the chance to meet the boxing legend?
His father, Bert "The Whittier Flash" Colima, was a world-class boxing champion in his own right.
Now the younger Colima, 78, has written about his father's career in the recently released, "Gentleman of the Ring: The Bert Colima Story," published by Long Beach-based Magic Valley Publishers.
The book details Colima's rise from his roots in the tiny Los Nietos community near Whittier to the boxing ring in the 1920s and 1930s.
One of the era's top sports writers, Jimmy Kilty, called Colima, "The greatest Mexican personality to ever appear in the ring."
He even credited Colima with paving the way for other Hispanic boxers.
Colima was born Epifanio Romero on Sept. 8, 1902 on a Los Nietos ranch. When he started boxing, he changed his name to Colima, the name of his family's ancestral homeland in Mexico. Romero was too common, he decided.
Colima grew to be a fan favorite among Mexicans and Mexican-Americans, earning a record of 135-38-21 with 48 knockouts.
"He was their idol," Kilty wrote in 1942.
This generation, however, does not know about the Whittier Flash's exploits, his son said.
"To many of the younger generation, the name Colima does not mean much," he said. "But to the fight fans of yesteryear, it brings back memories of a great Mexican-American boxer who helped start it all."
The younger Colima, who boxed when he was young but eventually ended up in the insurance business, began the book more than 25 years after his father's death in 1979.
"I always wanted to tell his story," he said. "My dad rarely spoke of his career because he was an unassuming man."
The research, however, was hampered by the fact that hundreds of newspaper clippings kept in a trunk were destroyed in a fire.
"I spent a lot of time on the Internet and at libraries trying to collect what was lost," Colima said.
His wife, Rose, 75, helped with the work.
"After I collected information on my dad's fight record, she told me I needed `a story,"' Bert W. Colima said of his wife.
Fortunately, the elder Colima had written about his early years living on the ranch and his boxing career.
He included stories of boxing with his brothers on the ranch and getting his first set of gym clothes from an uncle at age 16.
Bert W. Colima said he didn't get many boxing stories from
Cover of Bert W. Colima's book about his late father, Bert Colima Sr. who was known as the "The Whittier Flash." (SGVN/Staff Photo by Keith Birmingham)his father.
"My father always downplayed his boxing career," Colima said.
That despite winning several titles, including the Mexican middle weight championship of 1928.
"He was a great man, very humble," said Ralph Romero, 62, of Coachella, the boxer's nephew.
When Colima retired from the Los Angeles Department of Water and Power, he was recognized by then Los Angeles Mayor Sam Yorty, Romero said.
Romero hosts an annual boxing tournament.
The top fighter is given a BCR belt. It stands for Bert Colima Romero.
"It's a way to honor my uncle, who paved the way for other young Mexican-American fighters," Romero said.
As for the book, Colima called it a "work of love."
"I want to get his name out there and be recognized for the trailblazer he was."
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By Sandra T. Molina, Staff Writer
Bert W. Colima has written a book about his late father, Bert Colima known as the "The Whittier Flash" a Mexican-American fighter in the 20s and 30s who was a middleweight champion in Hacienda Heights. (SGVN/Staff Photo by Keith Birmingham)
It's not every day an 8-year-old gets to meet the "greatest heavyweight champion of all time."
But that's what happened to Hacienda Heights resident Bert W. Colima when his father introduced him to Joe Louis.
And how did the boy get the chance to meet the boxing legend?
His father, Bert "The Whittier Flash" Colima, was a world-class boxing champion in his own right.
Now the younger Colima, 78, has written about his father's career in the recently released, "Gentleman of the Ring: The Bert Colima Story," published by Long Beach-based Magic Valley Publishers.
The book details Colima's rise from his roots in the tiny Los Nietos community near Whittier to the boxing ring in the 1920s and 1930s.
One of the era's top sports writers, Jimmy Kilty, called Colima, "The greatest Mexican personality to ever appear in the ring."
He even credited Colima with paving the way for other Hispanic boxers.
Colima was born Epifanio Romero on Sept. 8, 1902 on a Los Nietos ranch. When he started boxing, he changed his name to Colima, the name of his family's ancestral homeland in Mexico. Romero was too common, he decided.
Colima grew to be a fan favorite among Mexicans and Mexican-Americans, earning a record of 135-38-21 with 48 knockouts.
"He was their idol," Kilty wrote in 1942.
This generation, however, does not know about the Whittier Flash's exploits, his son said.
"To many of the younger generation, the name Colima does not mean much," he said. "But to the fight fans of yesteryear, it brings back memories of a great Mexican-American boxer who helped start it all."
The younger Colima, who boxed when he was young but eventually ended up in the insurance business, began the book more than 25 years after his father's death in 1979.
"I always wanted to tell his story," he said. "My dad rarely spoke of his career because he was an unassuming man."
The research, however, was hampered by the fact that hundreds of newspaper clippings kept in a trunk were destroyed in a fire.
"I spent a lot of time on the Internet and at libraries trying to collect what was lost," Colima said.
His wife, Rose, 75, helped with the work.
"After I collected information on my dad's fight record, she told me I needed `a story,"' Bert W. Colima said of his wife.
Fortunately, the elder Colima had written about his early years living on the ranch and his boxing career.
He included stories of boxing with his brothers on the ranch and getting his first set of gym clothes from an uncle at age 16.
Bert W. Colima said he didn't get many boxing stories from
Cover of Bert W. Colima's book about his late father, Bert Colima Sr. who was known as the "The Whittier Flash." (SGVN/Staff Photo by Keith Birmingham)his father.
"My father always downplayed his boxing career," Colima said.
That despite winning several titles, including the Mexican middle weight championship of 1928.
"He was a great man, very humble," said Ralph Romero, 62, of Coachella, the boxer's nephew.
When Colima retired from the Los Angeles Department of Water and Power, he was recognized by then Los Angeles Mayor Sam Yorty, Romero said.
Romero hosts an annual boxing tournament.
The top fighter is given a BCR belt. It stands for Bert Colima Romero.
"It's a way to honor my uncle, who paved the way for other young Mexican-American fighters," Romero said.
As for the book, Colima called it a "work of love."
"I want to get his name out there and be recognized for the trailblazer he was."
[email protected]
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THEHAMMER321
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Good morning all, nice story on Colima Frank, did you get to know him personally. 
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Once you have prostate surgery even the blue pill won't work Paulino, your humpping days are OVER!!!!....THEHAMMER321 wrote:Btw Frank, the beehive lady at the doctors office was hoping you were there to get some viagra.
Re: Classic American West Coast Boxing
No, never met the man that trained my dad for his few amateur fights he had at Jim Jeffries Barn....THEHAMMER321 wrote:Good morning all, nice story on Colima Frank, did you get to know him personally.
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Bert Colima II was a pro fighter out of the Simons Brickyard
Bert Colima II
division welterweight
alias Manuel Martinez
nationality United States
residence Los Angeles, California, United States
won 14 (KO 10) + lost 10 (KO 4) + drawn 1 = 25
rounds boxed 124 KO% 40
1939-06-12 Miller Fonseca 8-6-1
Arena, Ocean Park, California, United States L PTS 6 6
1939-05-29 Miller Fonseca 7-5-1
Arena, Ocean Park, California, United States L KO 1 6
1939-05-15 Al Jimenez 3-11-0
Arena, Ocean Park, California, United States W KO 2 4
1938-05-03 Carlos Miranda 22-9-9
Olympic Auditorium, Los Angeles, California, United States L KO 4 6
1938-02-18 Frankie Vallerino 6-0-0
Legion Stadium, Hollywood, California, United States L KO 7 10
~ time: 1:35 | referee: Jack Kennedy ~
1937-10-22 144 Billy Barnes 144 11-5-5
Legion Stadium, Hollywood, California, United States L KO 9 10
~ time: 1:25 | referee: Abe Roth ~
~ USA California State welterweight title ~
Barnes was knocked down in the 4th round.
1937-09-10 144 Billy Barnes 143 11-4-5
Legion Stadium, Hollywood, California, United States W TKO 7 10
~ time: 1:30 | referee: Abe Roth ~
~ USA California State welterweight title ~
Barnes was knocked down four times in the 7th round.
1937-06-29 144½ Abie Miller 146½ 17-8-11
Olympic Auditorium, Los Angeles, California, United States W PTS 10 10
~ referee: Jack Kennedy ~
~ USA California State welterweight title ~
CA Commission suspends Miller "for the good of the game" effective 7/15
1937-05-18 Lee Medina 1-5-0
Olympic Auditorium, Los Angeles, California, United States W KO 3 10
~ time: 1:15 ~
Medina was knocked down twice in the 3rd round.
1937-04-27 Hut Thompson 1-1-1
Olympic Auditorium, Los Angeles, California, United States W KO 2 10
1936-12-22 Billy Barnes 9-2-4
Olympic Auditorium, Los Angeles, California, United States L PTS 10 10
Colima was on his back from a knockdown at the final bell, he was also down earlier in the round. Los Angeles Times
1936-12-08 143 Billy Barnes 140 9-1-4
Olympic Auditorium, Los Angeles, California, United States W PTS 8 8
~ referee: Johnny Indrisano ~
1936-08-07 Gale Harrington 3-0-1
Legion Stadium, Hollywood, California, United States L PTS 6 6
1936-06-02 Spud Kelly 6-10-14
Olympic Auditorium, Los Angeles, California, United States D PTS 6 6
~ referee: Frankie Van ~
According to the Los Angeles Times, Kelly's manager Jimmy Murray threw in the towel for no apparent reason, which was ignored by the referee.
1936-05-05 Chester Rudy 2-2-1
Olympic Auditorium, Los Angeles, California, United States W PTS 4 4
1936-04-22 Frankie Britt 52-14-1
Auditorium, Oakland, California, United States L PTS 6 6
1936-01-07 Glen Lee 19-4-1
Olympic Auditorium, Los Angeles, California, United States L PTS 6 6
~ referee: Jack Kennedy ~
1935-12-10 142 Dick Ruble 4-1-0
Olympic Auditorium, Los Angeles, California, United States W TKO 3 6
~ time: 1:05 | referee: Steve Nyland ~
Ruble was stopped on a cut over his left eye.
1935-11-19 Sol Lippo 14-20-6
Olympic Auditorium, Los Angeles, California, United States W TKO 5 6
1935-10-22 Emil Cody 12-10-1
Olympic Auditorium, Los Angeles, California, United States W KO 3 4
1935-10-08 Lloyd Smith 33-29-18
Olympic Auditorium, Los Angeles, California, United States W PTS 4 4
Smith was knocked down for a nine-count in the 2nd round.
1935-08-16 Chuey Solozano
Legion Stadium, Hollywood, California, United States W TKO 3 4
Colima fought under his real name.
1935-07-16 Pete Cardenas 18-18-3
Olympic Auditorium, Los Angeles, California, United States W KO 2 4
Colima fought under his real name Manuel Martinez.
1935-06-18 138 Carl Marks 138 2-6-3
Olympic Auditorium, Los Angeles, California, United States W TKO 3 4
Colima fought under his real name
1935-04-26 Angus Smith 50-15-10
Ventura, California, United States L PTS 4 4
Colima fought under his real name.
Bert Colima II
division welterweight
alias Manuel Martinez
nationality United States
residence Los Angeles, California, United States
won 14 (KO 10) + lost 10 (KO 4) + drawn 1 = 25
rounds boxed 124 KO% 40
1939-06-12 Miller Fonseca 8-6-1
Arena, Ocean Park, California, United States L PTS 6 6
1939-05-29 Miller Fonseca 7-5-1
Arena, Ocean Park, California, United States L KO 1 6
1939-05-15 Al Jimenez 3-11-0
Arena, Ocean Park, California, United States W KO 2 4
1938-05-03 Carlos Miranda 22-9-9
Olympic Auditorium, Los Angeles, California, United States L KO 4 6
1938-02-18 Frankie Vallerino 6-0-0
Legion Stadium, Hollywood, California, United States L KO 7 10
~ time: 1:35 | referee: Jack Kennedy ~
1937-10-22 144 Billy Barnes 144 11-5-5
Legion Stadium, Hollywood, California, United States L KO 9 10
~ time: 1:25 | referee: Abe Roth ~
~ USA California State welterweight title ~
Barnes was knocked down in the 4th round.
1937-09-10 144 Billy Barnes 143 11-4-5
Legion Stadium, Hollywood, California, United States W TKO 7 10
~ time: 1:30 | referee: Abe Roth ~
~ USA California State welterweight title ~
Barnes was knocked down four times in the 7th round.
1937-06-29 144½ Abie Miller 146½ 17-8-11
Olympic Auditorium, Los Angeles, California, United States W PTS 10 10
~ referee: Jack Kennedy ~
~ USA California State welterweight title ~
CA Commission suspends Miller "for the good of the game" effective 7/15
1937-05-18 Lee Medina 1-5-0
Olympic Auditorium, Los Angeles, California, United States W KO 3 10
~ time: 1:15 ~
Medina was knocked down twice in the 3rd round.
1937-04-27 Hut Thompson 1-1-1
Olympic Auditorium, Los Angeles, California, United States W KO 2 10
1936-12-22 Billy Barnes 9-2-4
Olympic Auditorium, Los Angeles, California, United States L PTS 10 10
Colima was on his back from a knockdown at the final bell, he was also down earlier in the round. Los Angeles Times
1936-12-08 143 Billy Barnes 140 9-1-4
Olympic Auditorium, Los Angeles, California, United States W PTS 8 8
~ referee: Johnny Indrisano ~
1936-08-07 Gale Harrington 3-0-1
Legion Stadium, Hollywood, California, United States L PTS 6 6
1936-06-02 Spud Kelly 6-10-14
Olympic Auditorium, Los Angeles, California, United States D PTS 6 6
~ referee: Frankie Van ~
According to the Los Angeles Times, Kelly's manager Jimmy Murray threw in the towel for no apparent reason, which was ignored by the referee.
1936-05-05 Chester Rudy 2-2-1
Olympic Auditorium, Los Angeles, California, United States W PTS 4 4
1936-04-22 Frankie Britt 52-14-1
Auditorium, Oakland, California, United States L PTS 6 6
1936-01-07 Glen Lee 19-4-1
Olympic Auditorium, Los Angeles, California, United States L PTS 6 6
~ referee: Jack Kennedy ~
1935-12-10 142 Dick Ruble 4-1-0
Olympic Auditorium, Los Angeles, California, United States W TKO 3 6
~ time: 1:05 | referee: Steve Nyland ~
Ruble was stopped on a cut over his left eye.
1935-11-19 Sol Lippo 14-20-6
Olympic Auditorium, Los Angeles, California, United States W TKO 5 6
1935-10-22 Emil Cody 12-10-1
Olympic Auditorium, Los Angeles, California, United States W KO 3 4
1935-10-08 Lloyd Smith 33-29-18
Olympic Auditorium, Los Angeles, California, United States W PTS 4 4
Smith was knocked down for a nine-count in the 2nd round.
1935-08-16 Chuey Solozano
Legion Stadium, Hollywood, California, United States W TKO 3 4
Colima fought under his real name.
1935-07-16 Pete Cardenas 18-18-3
Olympic Auditorium, Los Angeles, California, United States W KO 2 4
Colima fought under his real name Manuel Martinez.
1935-06-18 138 Carl Marks 138 2-6-3
Olympic Auditorium, Los Angeles, California, United States W TKO 3 4
Colima fought under his real name
1935-04-26 Angus Smith 50-15-10
Ventura, California, United States L PTS 4 4
Colima fought under his real name.
Re: Classic American West Coast Boxing
Hmmmmm . . . At first I thought it must be Faye Dunaway . . . but then I quickly realized she wasn't on the list, so I immediately thought of Streisand . . . I know how much you like working with those two . . . Hmmmmm . . .Rick Farris wrote:raylawpc wrote:Rick - it's Streisand, right?
That's a NO!
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Sugar Ray Robinson vs Gene Fullmer
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raylawpc wrote:Hmmmmm . . . At first I thought it must be Faye Dunaway . . . but then I quickly realized she wasn't on the list, so I immediately thought of Streisand . . . I know how much you like working with those two . . . Hmmmmm . . .Rick Farris wrote:raylawpc wrote:Rick - it's Streisand, right?
That's a NO!
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Time to reconsider Gene Fullmer . . .kikibalt wrote:Sugar Ray Robinson vs Gene Fullmer
I realize that Robinson leveled Fullmer with a beautiful left hook in their second fight. But they fought four times. Robinson won the second by KO, but that was his only win over Gene, who whipped Sugar Ray twice and drew with him. Anybody who is of the belief that Gene Fullmer was one of those "one dimensional" types, might think differently if facing him in a boxing ring. People just believe that a slick, fast, classic boxer-puncher will make a slugger look foolish, they are wrong. These guys have a style that is awkward and confusing, not to mention punishing. I know Robby was a bit long on the tooth when he fought Fullmer, but Gene was never an easy night for anybody, in fact, he was most commonly a nightmare. In four fights with the great Robinson, they battled a total of fifty rounds. Fullmer won the majority of the rounds on the officials scorecards, of course, the fifth round of second fight was surely the worst of Gene's career
.-Rick Farris
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Looking at footage of Gene Fullmer in action, I came away with the feeling that any opposing boxer was in for a very rough night when in the ring with him. I still can't believe that Benny "Kid" Paret was matched with Fullmer, who was far too big and strong for him.
- Chuck Johnston
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Chuck1052 wrote:Looking at footage of Gene Fullmer in action, I came away with the feeling that any opposing boxer was in for a very rough night when in the ring with him. I still can't believe that Benny "Kid" Paret was matched with Fullmer, who was far too big and strong for him.
- Chuck Johnston
Chuck . . . I agree. In fact, I was thinking of that bout as I was posting. As you pointed out, Peret was too small, and surely damaged in the Fullmer fight.
The fight was just one of a number of tough fights in the Cuban's career, but Fullmer hammered him.
In close Gene would tie him up with one hand and pound him with the other. Short, jolting, hooking shots.
You can see the energy leave Peret's body in that fight. Shortly after, Griffith for the last time.
-Rick Farris
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A Rough Night for Fullmer . . .
Was his 1955 match with Eduardo Lausse.
Fullmer hit the deck in that one, and dropped a decision.
Lausse is a rough bastid.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Rtp0LxAP_t0
-Rick Farris
Was his 1955 match with Eduardo Lausse.
Fullmer hit the deck in that one, and dropped a decision.
Lausse is a rough bastid.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Rtp0LxAP_t0
-Rick Farris
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Nice piece on Colima. Thanks for the post KIKI.
Dont kid yourself-Fullmer was a tough a fighter as any.
Just thought you guys might like to know that the Khan-Maligiginaianaaaa(Lol) my tongue has a bad habit of not stopping for this one--
is getting very little press here in NY. Today it got a blurb because Khan just got into NY City. The 3 paragraphs expunged on he was tied up in customs for a Visa oversight and Roach had him up in Vancouver. Thats it. Promo shot has Khan in a suit with the belt over his shoulder- next to, Maligianinnoooo who has a tee on that has a picture of MSG and the words "MAd SQ Garden the house that Malinginaoo built". He also has a baseball cap on sideways and chains all over his neck. A real role model Champ on the horizon here. Hope he gets his head, neck, torso handed to him Saturday night. Might be some bigger press on Saturday morning before the fight later that night.
Remember when the fights had pieces all week long in the paper. Another reason boxing is fading like it has.
The Yuri Foreman-Cotto fight in June at Yankee Stadium is far from selling out. Everyday-full page ads advertising available tickets for this one.
Getting a little bit more publicity than the Khan fight and 3 weeks later too. NY loves this Yuri Foreman kid- personally I dont see him doing much against the stronger opponents.
Dont kid yourself-Fullmer was a tough a fighter as any.
Just thought you guys might like to know that the Khan-Maligiginaianaaaa(Lol) my tongue has a bad habit of not stopping for this one--
is getting very little press here in NY. Today it got a blurb because Khan just got into NY City. The 3 paragraphs expunged on he was tied up in customs for a Visa oversight and Roach had him up in Vancouver. Thats it. Promo shot has Khan in a suit with the belt over his shoulder- next to, Maligianinnoooo who has a tee on that has a picture of MSG and the words "MAd SQ Garden the house that Malinginaoo built". He also has a baseball cap on sideways and chains all over his neck. A real role model Champ on the horizon here. Hope he gets his head, neck, torso handed to him Saturday night. Might be some bigger press on Saturday morning before the fight later that night.
Remember when the fights had pieces all week long in the paper. Another reason boxing is fading like it has.
The Yuri Foreman-Cotto fight in June at Yankee Stadium is far from selling out. Everyday-full page ads advertising available tickets for this one.
Getting a little bit more publicity than the Khan fight and 3 weeks later too. NY loves this Yuri Foreman kid- personally I dont see him doing much against the stronger opponents.
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Interesting. The fight is hardly getting any publicity here either because on the same night in a football stadium in London there is a much better fight between the unbeaten Londoner Kevin Mitchell, who licked Khan conqueror Breidis Prescott in January, against lunatic Aussie Michael Katsidis, who goes to war every time he fights. They are showing the Khan fight live on British-TV but the network screening it, ITV, is barely publicising the fight. Malignaggi has about three kayoes on his record and brittle hands, while Khan is out of sight, out of mind.CNorkusJr wrote:Nice piece on Colima. Thanks for the post KIKI.
Dont kid yourself-Fullmer was a tough a fighter as any.
Just thought you guys might like to know that the Khan-Maligiginaianaaaa(Lol) my tongue has a bad habit of not stopping for this one--
is getting very little press here in NY. Today it got a blurb because Khan just got into NY City. The 3 paragraphs expunged on he was tied up in customs for a Visa oversight and Roach had him up in Vancouver. Thats it. Promo shot has Khan in a suit with the belt over his shoulder- next to, Maligianinnoooo who has a tee on that has a picture of MSG and the words "MAd SQ Garden the house that Malinginaoo built". He also has a baseball cap on sideways and chains all over his neck. A real role model Champ on the horizon here. Hope he gets his head, neck, torso handed to him Saturday night. Might be some bigger press on Saturday morning before the fight later that night.
Remember when the fights had pieces all week long in the paper. Another reason boxing is fading like it has.
The Yuri Foreman-Cotto fight in June at Yankee Stadium is far from selling out. Everyday-full page ads advertising available tickets for this one.
Getting a little bit more publicity than the Khan fight and 3 weeks later too. NY loves this Yuri Foreman kid- personally I dont see him doing much against the stronger opponents.
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''Novelties in boxing'', these are a couple of the people for some reason or another caught on even though they were not anything to write home about as fighters, Eric ''The Butterbean'' Esch this circus sideshow wheighed around 300 pounds threw looping haymakers, my friends and I made up a joke regarding some of his opponents we would say '' I lost 9 out of my last 10 fights by knockout, a couple more and I will be ready for the Butterbean'', Christy Martin she actually wasn't a bad fighter, but being a women in a male dominated sport got her a lot press.
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My friend Kelly Burden (who fought Bob Foster for the light-heavyweight title in 1971) started out his pro career in the Marv Jensen stable and as one of Gene Fullmer's sparring partners. One thing Kelly used to say about Fuller was about how strong Fullmer was, and how he would bull Kelly around during sparring sessions. That always impressed me because I knew from sparring with Kelly how strong Kelly was, and the fact that Fuller could push him around really impressed me.Rick Farris wrote:Chuck1052 wrote:Looking at footage of Gene Fullmer in action, I came away with the feeling that any opposing boxer was in for a very rough night when in the ring with him. I still can't believe that Benny "Kid" Paret was matched with Fullmer, who was far too big and strong for him.
- Chuck Johnston
Chuck . . . I agree. In fact, I was thinking of that bout as I was posting. As you pointed out, Peret was too small, and surely damaged in the Fullmer fight.
The fight was just one of a number of tough fights in the Cuban's career, but Fullmer hammered him.
In close Gene would tie him up with one hand and pound him with the other. Short, jolting, hooking shots.
You can see the energy leave Peret's body in that fight. Shortly after, Griffith for the last time.
-Rick Farris
I think Fullmer was a great fighter, and one reason was because he could change styles to become more effective. Look at his fight with Carmen Basilio. I had always assumed that, when he and Carmen met, they fought toe-to-toe, neither taking a backward step. But I was surprised when I saw a film of the first fight that Gene actually boxed Carmen, backed away, and ripped Carmen as Basilio tried to move in on him. It was a great display, and showed that Gene was not the one-dimensional fighter some people make him out to be, but was adaptable.
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Rhodes tailor shop - "Order your summer suit because it is big rush we will execute customers in strict rotation."
Germany's Black Forest - "It is strictly forbidden on our Black Forest camping site that people of different sex, for instance, men and women, live together in one tent unless they are married together for that reason."
Swedish furrier - "Fur coats made for ladies from their own skin."
Japanese detour sign - "Stop: Drive sideways."
Swiss mountain inn - "Special today - no ice cream."
Copenhagen airline office - "We take your bags and send them in all directions."
Budapest zoo - "Please do not feed the animals. If you have suitable food, give it to the guard on duty."
Acapulco hotel - "The manager has personally passed all the water served here."
Japanese air conditioner - "Cooles and Heates: If you want just condition of warm in your room, please control yourself."
Tokyo car rental firm - "When passenger of foot heave in sight, tootle the horn. Trumpet him melodiously at first, but if he still obstacles your passage, then tootle him with vigour."
Norwegian cocktail bar - "Ladies are requested not to have children in the bar"
Bucharest Hotel Lobby - "The lift is being fixed for the next day. During that time you will be unbearable."
Leipzig elevator - "Do not enter the lift backwards and only when lit up"
Belgrade elevator - "To move the cabin, push forward for wishing floor. If the cabin should enter more persons, each one should press a number for a wishing floor. Driving is then going alphabetically by national order"
Paris hotel - "Please leave your values at the front desk."
Athenian hotel - "Visitors are expected to complain at the office between the hours of....."
Moscow Hotel - "You are invited to visit the cemetery where famous Soviet composers, authors and artists are buried daily except Thursday."
Austrian ski hotel - "Do not perambulate the corridors in the hours of repose in the boots of ascension."
Swiss menu - "Our wines leave you nothing to hope for."
Polish menu - "Salad of firm's own make; limpid red beet soup with cheesy dumplings in the form of a finger; roasted duck let loose; beef rashers beaten up in the country people's fashion."
Hong Kong dress shop - "Ladies have fits upstairs."
Rhodes tailor shop - "Order your summer suit because it is big rush we will execute customers in strict rotation."
Germany's Black Forest - "It is strictly forbidden on our Black Forest camping site that people of different sex, for instance, men and women, live together in one tent unless they are married together for that reason."
Swedish furrier - "Fur coats made for ladies from their own skin."
Japanese detour sign - "Stop: Drive sideways."
Swiss mountain inn - "Special today - no ice cream."
Copenhagen airline office - "We take your bags and send them in all directions."
Budapest zoo - "Please do not feed the animals. If you have suitable food, give it to the guard on duty."
Acapulco hotel - "The manager has personally passed all the water served here."
Japanese air conditioner - "Cooles and Heates: If you want just condition of warm in your room, please control yourself."
Tokyo car rental firm - "When passenger of foot heave in sight, tootle the horn. Trumpet him melodiously at first, but if he still obstacles your passage, then tootle him with vigour."
Norwegian cocktail bar - "Ladies are requested not to have children in the bar"
Re: Classic American West Coast Boxing
Tom I posted your post on my blog, take a look, link below.raylawpc wrote:My friend Kelly Burden (who fought Bob Foster for the light-heavyweight title in 1971) started out his pro career in the Marv Jensen stable and as one of Gene Fullmer's sparring partners. One thing Kelly used to say about Fuller was about how strong Fullmer was, and how he would bull Kelly around during sparring sessions. That always impressed me because I knew from sparring with Kelly how strong Kelly was, and the fact that Fuller could push him around really impressed me.
I think Fullmer was a great fighter, and one reason was because he could change styles to become more effective. Look at his fight with Carmen Basilio. I had always assumed that, when he and Carmen met, they fought toe-to-toe, neither taking a backward step. But I was surprised when I saw a film of the first fight that Gene actually boxed Carmen, backed away, and ripped Carmen as Basilio tried to move in on him. It was a great display, and showed that Gene was not the one-dimensional fighter some people make him out to be, but was adaptable.
http://westcoastboxersofyearsgoneby.blogspot.com/
Re: Classic American West Coast Boxing
Thanks Frank. 
I've never been blogged before. If I'd known you were going to do it, I would have cleaned up the grammar.
I've never been blogged before. If I'd known you were going to do it, I would have cleaned up the grammar. Re: Classic American West Coast Boxing
Grammar? what dat?....raylawpc wrote:Thanks Frank.
Re: Classic American West Coast Boxing
California Boxing Hall of fame
Press Release
Enrique Bolanos, who was the number one lightweight contender in 1947-’48, heads up a list of 25 honorees for the 2010 California Boxing Hall of Fame, induction ceremonies will be held June 26 at the Sportsmen’s Lodge in Studio City.
Other inductees include Young Corbett III, who won the welterweight championship in 1933, Corbett’s career spanned 31 years, which included wins over light-heavyweight champions Billy Conn and Gus Lesnevich.
Ticket information is available by calling (818) 761-4887
Frank Baltazar
Vice President
CBHOF
Don Fraser
President
CBHOF
Press Release
Enrique Bolanos, who was the number one lightweight contender in 1947-’48, heads up a list of 25 honorees for the 2010 California Boxing Hall of Fame, induction ceremonies will be held June 26 at the Sportsmen’s Lodge in Studio City.
Other inductees include Young Corbett III, who won the welterweight championship in 1933, Corbett’s career spanned 31 years, which included wins over light-heavyweight champions Billy Conn and Gus Lesnevich.
Ticket information is available by calling (818) 761-4887
Frank Baltazar
Vice President
CBHOF
Don Fraser
President
CBHOF