Ulrich vs Barney

stujones · Post by **stujones** » 26 Mar 2005, 09:22

The thread on this has gone down abit, so I thought I would create a new one.

Is this on via the web or is it only available in the UK via the porn dishes.

Is it likely to be Eurosport at any time.

Go on Matthew, good luck. Huge opportunity for him.

dve3333 · Post by **dve3333** » 26 Mar 2005, 12:14

I went for Ulrich on points in the Prediction League but I would love for Barney to do it as not many things have fallen right for him. But I just cant see him with the style he has getting a decision over there

Freiheit · Post by **Freiheit** » 26 Mar 2005, 15:03

The broadcast starts at 23 CET and is shown on ZDF and it will not be shown on Universums site.
But on tuesday you will be able to see these fights from 18.40 CET on http://www.boxing.de
Jr. Bantamweight
Susianna Kentikian vs. Daria Voitko
Super Featherweight
Ina Menzer vs. Viktoria Oleynik
Welterweight
Marco Cattikas vs. Abdeliah Benabbou
Heavyweight
Valery Chechenev vs. Michele Hielscher
Jr. Welterweight
Ali Ahraoui vs. Rintaro Yamaguchi

And from 21.30 CET you can see these fights live on Eurosport:
Heavyweight
Egon Roth vs. Gilberto Melo
Super Middleweight
Dimitri Sartison vs. Mukadi Manda
WBO Int. Heavyweight Championship
Taras Bidenko vs. Vladimir Virchis

dandantheweatherman · Post by **dandantheweatherman** » 26 Mar 2005, 18:41

Just watching it now.......German TV has a very low opinion of Barney - they keep calling him 'Der Stinker'. Bit harsh, even if I didn't enjoy his bout against Tony Oakey.

Anyway, Barney started off OK, but Ulrich looks about a stone heavier and came into it more in the 2nd and 3rd. Barney doesn't look like he's got the power to keep Ulrich off, even if he boxes nicely. Can't really see Barney getting anything here....

Freiheit · Post by **Freiheit** » 26 Mar 2005, 19:09

Close fight after 10 rounds, Barney could win it with a good finish.

Freiheit · Post by **Freiheit** » 26 Mar 2005, 19:18

Ulrich wins razor thin decision.
Online voters have it 7-4-1. Decision comming up.

Freiheit · Post by **Freiheit** » 26 Mar 2005, 19:24

In on of the worst title fights ever seen Ulrich won UD12
Judge: Manuel Oliver Palomo 116-112 | Judge: Erkki Meronen 115-114 | Judge: Franco Ciminale 115-114 ~

jamesmcdonnell · Post by **jamesmcdonnell** » 26 Mar 2005, 19:43

Every fight I've seen of Barney's to date, which is about 4, has earned that tag....

dve3333 · Post by **dve3333** » 26 Mar 2005, 19:44

Unlucky for Barney but it looks likes he put up a really good display although I cant see "Der Stinker" gaining a following over there
Thanks for the updates Freiheit

Freiheit · Post by **Freiheit** » 26 Mar 2005, 19:46

jamesmcdonnell wrote:Every fight I've seen of Barney's to date, which is about 4, has earned that tag....

The commentator said that barney could win the 10k backward run if such an event existed.
Oh yeah, Barney thought that he got robbed and Ulrich said that it was a great fight.....

stujones · Post by **stujones** » 26 Mar 2005, 22:06

Might not be the right words but a good effort from Barney, I expected him to last the distance but didn't expect it to be that close.

It must have been odd hearing the German commentators slagging him off, I actually thought that they would have appreciated his style. Sounds like good scoring aswell generally.

Hope Barney can get another crack.

dandantheweatherman · Post by **dandantheweatherman** » 27 Mar 2005, 05:49

Turned out to be a strange fight I thought......Barney spent 12 rounds circling the outside of the ring jabbing and rarely clinching or throwing a right. Ulrich spent 12 rounds in the centre of the ring failing to cut Barney's movement off. Barney's jab was very effective and he closed Ulrich's right eye with it. After 3 rounds I thought Ulrich would cut Barney off and win easily on points....

The rounds where Barney jabbed a lot he won. Trouble is, in 5 or 6 of the rounds he barely threw a punch but made Ulrich miss him. How do you score a round like that?

Barney thought he'd got it, and said afterwards in an interview on German TV that he thought he was well ahead going into the 12th so took it easy. German TV zoomed into the scorecards whilst they were being added up (nice touch...kills the suspense!!) and it was clear that Barney would have got a majority draw had he taken the 12th!

German TV were also uncertain if Ulrich had done enough to win at the end of the fight (I think - my German isn't that good).

All this said, I thought there were 5 or 6 rounds when Barney jabbed well and frequently and kept Ulrich off balance and away from him and desevered the round. However, like I say there were 5 or 6 rounds when Barney kept Ulrich away from him, made him miss but threw next to nothing. I took this as a sign of effective aggression (just!!) on Ulrich's part and gave Ulrich these rounds. I think I had it 115-114 Ulrich at the end.

Very frustrating for Barney. There were 2 or 3 rounds when if he'd just thrown something he'd have probably picked up thr rounds and won the fight (the scores were 115-114 twice and 116-112).

Trouble is can you go to someone's backyard and skip round the perimeter of the ring, make your opponent miss without being too aggressive yourself and expect to win?? I thought Barney was unlucky, but not robbed. Fair decision I thought.

Bard of Boxrec · Post by **Bard of Boxrec** » 27 Mar 2005, 07:36

Man, I didn't see it but this must be a measure of how bad Ulrich is, to win only a close decision over MATTHEW BARNEY?

Jeez. I also expected the german audience to appreciate barney, 'der stinker'?? hypocrites...

Freiheit · Post by **Freiheit** » 27 Mar 2005, 09:18

Riddick Blowe wrote:Jeez. I also expected the german audience to appreciate barney, 'der stinker'?? hypocrites...

The fight was way more boring than anything that Ottke, Hoffmann and May have ever done.

Stefan · Post by **Stefan** » 27 Mar 2005, 09:30

I had the fight a draw, but i can understand people having Barney in front. For the first half of the fight, Barney was able to land his left consistently into Ulrichs face and Ulrich was never able to really catch the Brit, although Barney circled in the wrong direction, in the second half, Barney didn´t land his jab that often, especially in the last 4 rounds he did almost nothing than run. Ulrich did a bit better in those rounds, still most hitting air, only very few punches landing mostly at the body. It was one of the most boring fights i have ever seen, not only because of Barneys running style, but also because Ulrich seemed to be absolutely uninspired how to catch the Brit. After the fight Barney wanted a rematch, feeling that he had won the run. Ulrich was asked about it and answered, that it wouldn´t make sense to do a shit fight like that again. Because of the controversity i think a rematch would be advisable, but i agree with Ulrich, it doesn´t make sense to do it again, no one would want to see such a bore again. In comparison to Barney even Sven Ottke was exciting.

Bard of Boxrec · Post by **Bard of Boxrec** » 27 Mar 2005, 10:46

I wonder if barney thinks he's boring? I wonder if he ever thinks, during a fight, 'This is boring, I wish I had the balls to get stuck in'

stujones · Post by **stujones** » 27 Mar 2005, 11:29

Riddick Blowe wrote:Man, I didn't see it but this must be a measure of how bad Ulrich is, to win only a close decision over MATTHEW BARNEY?

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Yep that is true, Charles Amdanu beat up Barney and showed really that he probably achieved his level when winning the British title. Perhaps though he is weight drained at Super Middle, because he did upset Oakey and he did nearly now upset Ulrich.

I would have predicted him to have done either based on his last two performances at the lower weight.

josh fg · Post by **josh fg** » 27 Mar 2005, 11:30

So what should Barny do now, even in loosing he has restored some credibility. Froch has called him out at super middle befor now that wouldn't be a bad fight for ether if they believe they could win, or is Barny more suted to light heavyweight? Thoughts any one.

stujones · Post by **stujones** » 27 Mar 2005, 11:35

Why not Barney vs Woods as an "celebratory" first defence for Woods. Kind of like I suggested Tony Oakey before. Woods will win and as Bunce said deserves an easy one. Why not Matthew.

Think he should stick at Light Heavy, more options and seems to fight better. Oboh aint getting any younger - he might fancy his chances of running his way to a victory there.

josh fg · Post by **josh fg** » 27 Mar 2005, 11:52

do you think loosing a european title challenge is really what it takes to deserve a world shot :S dont quite see many fans buying that one personaly Ulrich may be a similarly easy fight for woods with a bit more cudose.

stujones · Post by **stujones** » 27 Mar 2005, 11:54

josh fg wrote:do you think loosing a european title challenge is really what it takes to deserve a world shot :S dont quite see many fans buying that one personaly Ulrich may be a similarly easy fight for woods with a bit more cudose.

True, the advantage that Barney has is that he is a brit and will generate (possibly) some support of his own.

I'm not saying it was a deserved title shot, but then did Botha deserve his title shot vs Lewis - which was seen as a celebratory defence.