Classic American West Coast Boxing

[Rick Farris]

Lucia Rijker vs. Chevelle Hallback . . .

This is a good fight between two tough women.
Chavelle Hallback reminds me of Bennie Briscoe.

Part-1: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_DptpqR9LPE
Part-2: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Hz_iIQw3vF4&NR=1

[Rick Farris]

Lucia Rijker's punching power . . .

We showed this clip at last year's WBHOF banquet, just before we inducted Lucia.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4eplLem4 ... re=related

[telboy66]

You guys seem keen on women's boxing I'm afraid it's not for me There was a bout on a show I went to a couple of months back I watched the first round then made a quick move to the bar I just can't see the point to it maybe you can enlighten me but I doubt it

[raylawpc]

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[raylawpc]

Where is Tom?, he's been mia for the last few days. Tom!!

Thanks Frank. I'm not exactly MIA. I am down in SW Missouri at my vacation home enjoying some R&R. No highspeed internet there yet. Right now I'm sitting in an internet cafe so I can access e-mails and this thread.

This town only has a population of 5,000 - but it has two internet cafes. Go figure.

[Randyman]

Latino Boxing documentary . . .


Film maker Alan Swyer recorded two more interviews today for his Latino Boxing documentary.
Swyer called me to say that he had interviewed both Sugar Ray Leonard and our own Frank Baltazar today.

"It was a full day" Swyer told me. "I started out with Sugar Ray Leonard at his home in Pacific Palisades, and then drove across town to La Puente to interview Frank."

I'm looking forward to seeing this film when it is all cut and put together.

Don't know if Alan will find any use for my interview as I'm not the most articulate guy in the barrio, plus, I'm not at ease in front of the camera, though both Alan and the camera man, Pat, try to make me feel at ease as much as possible. It was fun, I too am looking forward to seenig the film when its all done.

Frank, I'm looking forward to seeing that interview. They picked the right guy to talk to. Congrats!

Randy

[kikibalt]

Where is Tom?, he's been mia for the last few days. Tom!!

Thanks Frank. I'm not exactly MIA. I am down in SW Missouri at my vacation home enjoying some R&R. No highspeed internet there yet. Right now I'm sitting in an internet cafe so I can access e-mails and this thread.

This town only has a population of 5,000 - but it has two internet cafes. Go figure.

Tom, your and yours enjoy your vacation, come back as soon as you can.....

[Randyman]

Where is Tom?, he's been mia for the last few days. Tom!!

Thanks Frank. I'm not exactly MIA. I am down in SW Missouri at my vacation home enjoying some R&R. No highspeed internet there yet. Right now I'm sitting in an internet cafe so I can access e-mails and this thread.

This town only has a population of 5,000 - but it has two internet cafes. Go figure.

Tom, your and yours enjoy your vacation, come back as soon as you can.....

[raylawpc]

Where is Tom?, he's been mia for the last few days. Tom!!

Thanks Frank. I'm not exactly MIA. I am down in SW Missouri at my vacation home enjoying some R&R. No highspeed internet there yet. Right now I'm sitting in an internet cafe so I can access e-mails and this thread.

This town only has a population of 5,000 - but it has two internet cafes. Go figure.

Tom, your and yours enjoy your vacation, come back as soon as you can.....

Thanks. You have to come out here sometime and go trout fishing with me! The boss and Connie can go over to the shows in Branson while we are catching trout.

[Randyman]

Good morning all, did not watch the fight last night did anybody on here see it

Hi Paul . . . I watched both fights. The first one (Mares-Perez) was close and very good, to real fighters putting on a war.
The second bout started out like the first three, but as expected, it was a blood bath within a couple minutes. Vasquez was stopped on two huge cuts, the one over his left eye was as bad as anything I've seen. Vasquez needs to retire. Marquez may fight Vic Darchinian?

If there is one good thing that can be said for Israel's cuts, it's that they ended the fight early. An early out was best for both boxers on this night.

I too watch both fight and I agree, Rick, Vasquez needs to retire, if not the commish should pull his license. The other? well, yes there was action, but, harm-less action, neither was throwing hard punches, Perez, throws nothing but arm punches and Mares did in the the middle rounds a bit of running....Marquez, I think is going to be in time call an all time great.

Agreed, Vasquez should hang them up. I thought coming into the fight that Vasquez had that frail look that some fighters get when they've had one fight to many. The cuts made it almost impossible for him. Marquez on the other hand looked to still be at the top of his game. I don't see a need for a fifth fight.

Marquez kicks Darchinian's ass.

Randy

[kikibalt]

Thanks Frank. I'm not exactly MIA. I am down in SW Missouri at my vacation home enjoying some R&R. No highspeed internet there yet. Right now I'm sitting in an internet cafe so I can access e-mails and this thread.

This town only has a population of 5,000 - but it has two internet cafes. Go figure.

Tom, your and yours enjoy your vacation, come back as soon as you can.....

Thanks. You have to come out here sometime and go trout fishing with me! The boss and Connie can go over to the shows in Branson while we are catching trout.

Just might do that, Tom, if I can get Connie to take some days off, she rather go to work than to hang out with me, I worder why....LOL!!

[kikibalt]

Latino Boxing documentary . . .


Film maker Alan Swyer recorded two more interviews today for his Latino Boxing documentary.
Swyer called me to say that he had interviewed both Sugar Ray Leonard and our own Frank Baltazar today.

"It was a full day" Swyer told me. "I started out with Sugar Ray Leonard at his home in Pacific Palisades, and then drove across town to La Puente to interview Frank."

I'm looking forward to seeing this film when it is all cut and put together.

Don't know if Alan will find any use for my interview as I'm not the most articulate guy in the barrio, plus, I'm not at ease in front of the camera, though both Alan and the camera man, Pat, try to make me feel at ease as much as possible. It was fun, I too am looking forward to seenig the film when its all done.

Frank, I'm looking forward to seeing that interview. They picked the right guy to talk to. Congrats!

Randy

Thanks Randy....

[Rick Farris]

You guys seem keen on women's boxing I'm afraid it's not for me There was a bout on a show I went to a couple of months back I watched the first round then made a quick move to the bar I just can't see the point to it maybe you can enlighten me but I doubt it

tellboy . . . I'm not keen on women's boxing, but I respect Lucia Rijker. I think women have as much right as anybody to fight in the ring, to compete in the Olympics in boxing, etc. Most of the women I've seen fail to generate anything like what I'm used to from a fight, however, Lucia is something special. I recall in the late 60's, Aileen Eaton attempted to give women's boxing a chance, featuring Lady Tiger Trimier. It just didn't catch on. I think women are getting better, and I teach a couple girls, but Lucia is in a class by herself, IMO.

[Rick Farris]

Where is Tom?, he's been mia for the last few days. Tom!!

Thanks Frank. I'm not exactly MIA. I am down in SW Missouri at my vacation home enjoying some R&R. No highspeed internet there yet. Right now I'm sitting in an internet cafe so I can access e-mails and this thread.

This town only has a population of 5,000 - but it has two internet cafes. Go figure.

Tom, your and yours enjoy your vacation, come back as soon as you can.....

Have a good one, Tom!

[Rick Farris]

Manny Pac - Amir Khan boxing at Wildcard:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=M0I_pJhp ... re=related

[Rick Farris]

Manny Pac - Israel Vasquez / Sparring in 2003, Pac preparing for Berrera . . .

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JYD3DQ_O ... re=related

[THEHAMMER321]

Rick do you know at what point in Pac's career did Roach start working with him, also I remember you talking about a gym on Stanton, I always stay with my kids at a motel on Stanton when we go to Knott's Berry Farm, is the gym close to Knott's .

[Rick Farris]

Rick do you know at what point in Pac's career did Roach start working with him, also I remember you talking about a gym on Stanton, I always stay with my kids at a motel on Stanton when we go to Knott's Berry Farm, is the gym close to Knott's .

Stanton A.C.

The Stanton A.C was close to Knott's. I forget what street it was on, but it was right off Beach Blvd. not far from Interstate-5.
I doubt it still exists. Frank would know more about it's exact location as he drove there many times, I imagine.
I remember guys like Jake Horn, Noe Cruz and others, including Armando Muniz, coaching kids at Stanton AC.

[Rick Farris]

Rick do you know at what point in Pac's career did Roach start working with him, also I remember you talking about a gym on Stanton, I always stay with my kids at a motel on Stanton when we go to Knott's Berry Farm, is the gym close to Knott's .

Paul . . . I remember when they started working together but forget the exact fight, or year. I believe Manny was less than bantamweight. I know that when they first got together, Roach saw this energy, speed, and power. And of course, the fighter's personality and work ethic. Freddie said Manny was a bit wild, but willing to listen and do everything asked of him. A trainer's dream.

[Rick Farris]

Diego Corrales vs. Jose Luis Castillo - Round 10 . . .

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=imZaiGJgbsw

[Randyman]

I saw a movie today called "Sunday Punch" that would have been right up Mel Epstein's alley. The whole premise of the movie was that the dames ruin a fighter every time. It wouldn't surprise me to learn that Mel was a consultant on the movie.

Several fighters live in a boarding house run by an older "Mom' type of woman. her The rule of the house is that no dames can enter the house but no sooner does the movie start then the old lady's gorgeous niece moves in. All the fighters go a little bonkers but one of the fighter falls hard as does the ultra naive janitor (played by Dan daily). The janitor decides to become a fighter to impress and win the hand of the fickle women (aren't they all fickle?). needless to say the friendship as well as the training is ruined.

The movie ends well with one fighter giving up boxing and marrying the woman and presumably living happily ever after. The friendship was repaired but a career was ruined. The moral of the story as far as I could tell was,even in the best of circumstances, run like hell when you see a dame coming. No point in taking chances.

Sunday Punch is a classic B movie and like most old B movies it possesses a certain charm. It tosses around words like "Champeenship". The trainers and managers in this movie continually bemoan the current state of boxing and fondly remember the old days (sound familiar?) The Sunday Punch refers to the knockout punch of the janitor turned boxer.

Dames!!

Randy

http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0035393/

[Randyman]

Diego Corrales vs. Jose Luis Castillo - Round 10 . . .

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=imZaiGJgbsw

Thanks for posting that Rick. I remember the fight and that round clearly. I'm sure everyone in the arena figured the fight was all but over after Castillo dropped Corrales twice in the round. Those weren't flash knockdowns either. Corrales was hurt. Say what you will but anyone that has the presence of mind to spit out the mouthpiece to gain a few precious seconds has my respect.

I have always liked Corrales but never considered him an A list or elite fighter. He was a notch below the best of his time. His record will back my statement. He did however own a championship heart. That is beyond dispute.

Randy

[Randyman]

Anybody here like Beef and Barley soup? Jeri and I went to Chris and Pitt's for some BBQ today and I had a bowl. Man, it was freaking good. I should have taken a picture of it.

Randy

[Rick Farris]

I saw a movie today called "Sunday Punch" that would have been right up Mel Epstein's alley. The whole premise of the movie was that the dames ruin a fighter every time. It wouldn't surprise me to learn that Mel was a consultant on the movie.

Several fighters live in a boarding house run by an older "Mom' type of woman. her The rule of the house is that no dames can enter the house but no sooner does the movie start then the old lady's gorgeous niece moves in. All the fighters go a little bonkers but one of the fighter falls hard as does the ultra naive janitor (played by Dan daily). The janitor decides to become a fighter to impress and win the hand of the fickle women (aren't they all fickle?). needless to say the friendship as well as the training is ruined.

The movie ends well with one fighter giving up boxing and marrying the woman and presumably living happily ever after. The friendship was repaired but a career was ruined. The moral of the story as far as I could tell was,even in the best of circumstances, run like hell when you see a dame coming. No point in taking chances.

Sunday Punch is a classic B movie and like most old B movies it possesses a certain charm. It tosses around words like "Champeenship". The trainers and managers in this movie continually bemoan the current state of boxing and fondly remember the old days (sound familiar?) The Sunday Punch refers to the knockout punch of the janitor turned boxer.

Dames!!

Randy

http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0035393/

One member of the cast was "Dead End Kid", Leo Gorcey.

[Randyman]

I saw a movie today called "Sunday Punch" that would have been right up Mel Epstein's alley. The whole premise of the movie was that the dames ruin a fighter every time. It wouldn't surprise me to learn that Mel was a consultant on the movie.

Several fighters live in a boarding house run by an older "Mom' type of woman. her The rule of the house is that no dames can enter the house but no sooner does the movie start then the old lady's gorgeous niece moves in. All the fighters go a little bonkers but one of the fighter falls hard as does the ultra naive janitor (played by Dan daily). The janitor decides to become a fighter to impress and win the hand of the fickle women (aren't they all fickle?). needless to say the friendship as well as the training is ruined.

The movie ends well with one fighter giving up boxing and marrying the woman and presumably living happily ever after. The friendship was repaired but a career was ruined. The moral of the story as far as I could tell was,even in the best of circumstances, run like hell when you see a dame coming. No point in taking chances.

Sunday Punch is a classic B movie and like most old B movies it possesses a certain charm. It tosses around words like "Champeenship". The trainers and managers in this movie continually bemoan the current state of boxing and fondly remember the old days (sound familiar?) The Sunday Punch refers to the knockout punch of the janitor turned boxer.

Dames!!

Randy

http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0035393/

One member of the cast was "Dead End Kid", Leo Gorcey.

Yes, Leo Gorcey. How could I forget to mention him. He was prominent in the movie. He was in character as always.

Randy