A young George Foreman in late 80's/early 90's
Re: A young Geroge Foreman in late 80's/early 90's
People really should watch again the 42 year old Larry holmes's fight with a prime Holyfield to see how easily Holmes beat Holyfield on the inside for 10 rounds before he ran out of gas and lost a closer than people credit it fight.
I am a real Holyfield fan and lately have actually been entertaining thoughts that he may well be one of the 5 best HW's in history! To analyse this assertion i watched his fights with Foreman, Holmes and Cooper last night........I think im safe in my opinion that Evander is the 10th or 12th best HW of all time and no way any higher
I am a real Holyfield fan and lately have actually been entertaining thoughts that he may well be one of the 5 best HW's in history! To analyse this assertion i watched his fights with Foreman, Holmes and Cooper last night........I think im safe in my opinion that Evander is the 10th or 12th best HW of all time and no way any higher
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Re: A young Geroge Foreman in late 80's/early 90's
Yes, Larry holmes and Foreman fought a lot alike. Brilliant!
Larry was getting whooped until he dropped an elbow on Evander. That evened things up. If you saw Holmes doing anything easily, I'm afraid you're mistaken yet again.
Larry was getting whooped until he dropped an elbow on Evander. That evened things up. If you saw Holmes doing anything easily, I'm afraid you're mistaken yet again.
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Re: A young Geroge Foreman in late 80's/early 90's
How many rounds would a 42-year-old Holyfield win from a prime Holmes? From a prime Foreman?
He wouldn't hear the final bell against either.
He wouldn't hear the final bell against either.
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Re: A young Geroge Foreman in late 80's/early 90's
And? An old Joe louis was no match for Rocky marciano. What's your point? That Holmes was greater than Evander? I agree
That Foreman and Holmes were better in their 40's than other Heavyweight greats? I agree again
That doesn't mean he dominated him inside when they fought and it doesn't mean a thing as to whom would win in their primes.
Seriously Irene, you would destroy a post like that from someone else. you're better than that.
That Foreman and Holmes were better in their 40's than other Heavyweight greats? I agree again
That doesn't mean he dominated him inside when they fought and it doesn't mean a thing as to whom would win in their primes.
Seriously Irene, you would destroy a post like that from someone else. you're better than that.
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Re: A young Geroge Foreman in late 80's/early 90's
That's true, actually. I'll grant you that
I just cannot see Holyfield getting around Foreman, though. Not even a slim chance, IMO.
I just cannot see Holyfield getting around Foreman, though. Not even a slim chance, IMO.
Re: A young Geroge Foreman in late 80's/early 90's
SaadOffTheDeck wrote:Yes, Larry holmes and Foreman fought a lot alike. Brilliant!
Larry was getting whooped until he dropped an elbow on Evander. That evened things up. If you saw Holmes doing anything easily, I'm afraid you're mistaken yet again.
The relevence, since i evidently need to draw it in crayons for you, is that you and your ilk were telling us George Foreman the guy who left a trail of helpless twitching bodies in his wake during his first coming, "wasnt a good infighter" and therefore would be "handicapped" against such a great infighter as holyfield.
To refute this fantasy, I first proved the young Foreman was a very good infighter by quoting his destruction of Frazier the first time making Frazier reluctant to fight on the inside in their rematch. Which was a first for Joe since his bread and butter was to get on the inside. It would be like money mayweather suddenly becoming a blood and guts type mexican brawler as he doubted his own skills he had used in his first 41 fights. if a guy can do that to his opponent , in this case a legendary infighter, it proves he is an adept infighter himself.
I than told you guys to actually watch a prime Holyfield get dominated for 10 rounds on the inside by a shot 42 year old Holmes.
My point is a young George Foreman would crush any version of Holyfield inside or outside.
Anything else i can clear up for you?
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Re: A young Geroge Foreman in late 80's/early 90's
Quite honestly i dont think ive read such gobbledeegook.SaadOffTheDeck wrote:And? An old Joe louis was no match for Rocky marciano. What's your point? That Holmes was greater than Evander? I agree
That Foreman and Holmes were better in their 40's than other Heavyweight greats? I agree again
That doesn't mean he dominated him inside when they fought and it doesn't mean a thing as to whom would win in their primes.
Seriously Irene, you would destroy a post like that from someone else. you're better than that.
My point again is a old 42 year old Holmes dominated a prime Holyfield on the inside for 9 or 10 rounds. I watched the fight again 2 days ago. PM me and i will post you a copy of the fight on dvd so that you can watch it as well.
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Re: A young Geroge Foreman in late 80's/early 90's
mugabi wrote:SaadOffTheDeck wrote:Yes, Larry holmes and Foreman fought a lot alike. Brilliant!
Larry was getting whooped until he dropped an elbow on Evander. That evened things up. If you saw Holmes doing anything easily, I'm afraid you're mistaken yet again.
The relevence, since i evidently need to draw it in crayons for you, is that you and your ilk were telling us George Foreman the guy who left a trail of helpless twitching bodies in his wake during his first coming, "wasnt a good infighter" and therefore would be "handicapped" against such a great infighter as holyfield.
To refute this fantasy, I first proved the young Foreman was a very good infighter by quoting his destruction of Frazier the first time making Frazier reluctant to fight on the inside in their rematch. Which was a first for Joe since his bread and butter was to get on the inside. It would be like money mayweather suddenly becoming a blood and guts type mexican brawler as he doubted his own skills he had used in his first 41 fights. if a guy can do that to his opponent , in this case a legendary infighter, it proves he is an adept infighter himself.
I than told you guys to actually watch a prime Holyfield get dominated for 10 rounds on the inside by a shot 42 year old Holmes.
My point is a young George Foreman would crush any version of Holyfield inside or outside.
Anything else i can clear up for you?
I never said Foreman was a poor in fighter and you've proven nothing. It's a mythical match up and your panties are wound way too tight. It's my contention that Evander is a solid favorite over any version of Foreman. You can clear up what in the world makes you think your hair brained assertions and lame jokes are some sort of proof.
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Re: A young Geroge Foreman in late 80's/early 90's
mugabi wrote:Quite honestly i dont think ive read such gobbledeegook.SaadOffTheDeck wrote:And? An old Joe louis was no match for Rocky marciano. What's your point? That Holmes was greater than Evander? I agree
That Foreman and Holmes were better in their 40's than other Heavyweight greats? I agree again
That doesn't mean he dominated him inside when they fought and it doesn't mean a thing as to whom would win in their primes.
Seriously Irene, you would destroy a post like that from someone else. you're better than that.
My point again is a old 42 year old Holmes dominated a prime Holyfield on the inside for 9 or 10 rounds. I watched the fight again 2 days ago. PM me and i will post you a copy of the fight on dvd so that you can watch it as well.
Your point is wrong, but you must be used to that by now. I enjoy talking about old fights and fighters on this forum. It also never ceases to entertain me when a clown like I Disagree or yourself tells me to watch a fight that you haven't a clue about. Bravo
Not that I feel the need to prove a thing to you. But I have Foreman, Holyfield & Frazier's career sets. So that wont be neccessary. I'd love to read a round by round commentary of how Holyfield was dominated for 10 rounds. I've grown used to the actual fight, the one in your head sounds entertaining.
Edit: LOL, I didn't even realize you were the same buffoon demanding that the Showtime commentary was biased for Holyfield in the first Tyson fight. That explains things, you don't have a clue what you're watching or hearing.
Re: A young Geroge Foreman in late 80's/early 90's
Hey Darling, How'd you like me to come up there and slap that grin right off your contribution?
Re: A young Geroge Foreman in late 80's/early 90's
Its an argument a day with you isnt it you unreasonable troll?SaadOffTheDeck wrote:mugabi wrote:SaadOffTheDeck wrote:Yes, Larry holmes and Foreman fought a lot alike. Brilliant!
Larry was getting whooped until he dropped an elbow on Evander. That evened things up. If you saw Holmes doing anything easily, I'm afraid you're mistaken yet again.
The relevence, since i evidently need to draw it in crayons for you, is that you and your ilk were telling us George Foreman the guy who left a trail of helpless twitching bodies in his wake during his first coming, "wasnt a good infighter" and therefore would be "handicapped" against such a great infighter as holyfield.
To refute this fantasy, I first proved the young Foreman was a very good infighter by quoting his destruction of Frazier the first time making Frazier reluctant to fight on the inside in their rematch. Which was a first for Joe since his bread and butter was to get on the inside. It would be like money mayweather suddenly becoming a blood and guts type mexican brawler as he doubted his own skills he had used in his first 41 fights. if a guy can do that to his opponent , in this case a legendary infighter, it proves he is an adept infighter himself.
I than told you guys to actually watch a prime Holyfield get dominated for 10 rounds on the inside by a shot 42 year old Holmes.
My point is a young George Foreman would crush any version of Holyfield inside or outside.
Anything else i can clear up for you?
I never said Foreman was a poor in fighter and you've proven nothing. It's a mythical match up and your panties are wound way too tight. It's my contention that Evander is a solid favorite over any version of Foreman. You can clear up what in the world makes you think your hair brained assertions and lame jokes are some sort of proof.
Today its me, tommorow its someone else. ever stop to think perhaps the problem is your retarded and have difficulty understanding stuff others do?
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Re: A young Geroge Foreman in late 80's/early 90's
mugabi wrote:Its an argument a day with you isnt it you unreasonable troll?SaadOffTheDeck wrote:mugabi wrote:
The relevence, since i evidently need to draw it in crayons for you, is that you and your ilk were telling us George Foreman the guy who left a trail of helpless twitching bodies in his wake during his first coming, "wasnt a good infighter" and therefore would be "handicapped" against such a great infighter as holyfield.
To refute this fantasy, I first proved the young Foreman was a very good infighter by quoting his destruction of Frazier the first time making Frazier reluctant to fight on the inside in their rematch. Which was a first for Joe since his bread and butter was to get on the inside. It would be like money mayweather suddenly becoming a blood and guts type mexican brawler as he doubted his own skills he had used in his first 41 fights. if a guy can do that to his opponent , in this case a legendary infighter, it proves he is an adept infighter himself.
I than told you guys to actually watch a prime Holyfield get dominated for 10 rounds on the inside by a shot 42 year old Holmes.
My point is a young George Foreman would crush any version of Holyfield inside or outside.
Anything else i can clear up for you?
I never said Foreman was a poor in fighter and you've proven nothing. It's a mythical match up and your panties are wound way too tight. It's my contention that Evander is a solid favorite over any version of Foreman. You can clear up what in the world makes you think your hair brained assertions and lame jokes are some sort of proof.
Today its me, tommorow its someone else. ever stop to think perhaps the problem is your retarded and have difficulty understanding stuff others do?
I understand the difference between your & you're. I'd figure that out before you call someone retarded or question their comprehension abilities.
Here is an example for you.
Your opinions are not facts.
You're the one that started with insults here.
I hope that helps make today a brighter day for you.
Message boards are full of differing opinions. They wouldn't be fun if we all agreed on everything. Don't take my stance on a fight so personally. Buck up little trooper, I got love for you little guy. Now dry those tears and give us a smile.
Re: A young Geroge Foreman in late 80's/early 90's
im glad you finally realised this is a forum where people are allowed opinions.
Since lately you have been acting like the saddam hussein of these boards on the basis your opinion is king and shall be obeyed.
Oh and you will find your is acceptable in the queens English which is what I speak.
Nice example of your nitpicking and spoiling for a fight all the time.
A little advice buddy , opinions are like arrseholes everyone has them just dont get so bent out of shape all the time saddamofthedeck.
Since lately you have been acting like the saddam hussein of these boards on the basis your opinion is king and shall be obeyed.
Oh and you will find your is acceptable in the queens English which is what I speak.
Nice example of your nitpicking and spoiling for a fight all the time.
A little advice buddy , opinions are like arrseholes everyone has them just dont get so bent out of shape all the time saddamofthedeck.
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Re: A young Geroge Foreman in late 80's/early 90's
mugabi wrote:im glad you finally realised this is a forum where people are allowed opinions.
Since lately you have been acting like the saddam hussein of these boards.
If all of a sudden your so in favour of opinions why do you insist on insults and name calling and get in so many fights on so many threads you retard
You're the one flinging insults and you're the only one personally offended by my take on Foreman/Holyfield. You should look in the mirror.
Re: A young Geroge Foreman in late 80's/early 90's
you seem to have a very short memory span. Earlier in this thread you hurled insults and argued in your trademark fashion with goodnight irene and gambler49 . In fact this thread has been ruined by saddamoffthedeck trying to talk down anyone who has an opinion different to his own.
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Re: A young Geroge Foreman in late 80's/early 90's
mugabi wrote:you seem to have a very short memory span. Earlier in this thread you hurled insults and argued in your trademark fashion with goodnight irene and gambler49 . In fact this thread has been ruined by saddamoffthedeck trying to talk down anyone who has an opinion different to his own.
That certainly isn't true. Gambler insulted me and Irene and I were just having fun. Why not focus on yourself? You have an insult in every post.
Re: A young Geroge Foreman in late 80's/early 90's
The man is obsessed!!!!! Let it go , go and buy a playboy magazine whack off let some tension off. JEEZ ive never seen someone so unwilling to let it go and always looking for a fight!
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Re: A young Geroge Foreman in late 80's/early 90's
mugabi wrote:The man is obsessed!!!!! Let it go , go and buy a playboy magazine whack off let some tension off. JEEZ ive never seen someone so unwilling to let it go and always looking for a fight!
I'm not looking for anything, you continue to insult me and I respond. Follow your own advice and it will be over. You started it, feel free to end it. Or you can continue to make a fool of yourself. It makes no difference to me.
Re: A young Geroge Foreman in late 80's/early 90's
Can't we all just get along? Saad, Mugabi....how's about we take a lesson from the Lion and the Zebra?


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SaadOffTheDeck
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Re: A young Geroge Foreman in late 80's/early 90's
LOL, I'm far from upset. His irrational rage is cracking me up.
Re: A young Geroge Foreman in late 80's/early 90's
You don't find the thread amusing?BoxBuzz wrote:Hey Darling, How'd you like me to come up there and slap that grin right off your contribution?
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Re: A young Geroge Foreman in late 80's/early 90's
Haha that picture is priceless . . .
Re: A young George Foreman in late 80's/early 90's
I hope the author of this thread forgives me for going back and changing Geroge, to George. I just couldn't look at that any longer.
Re: A young Geroge Foreman in late 80's/early 90's
BoxBuzz wrote:Can't we all just get along? Saad, Mugabi....how's about we take a lesson from the Lion and the Zebra?
Collins and Granberry, together at last!