British Top 30 P4P June 2010

[Horse]

1. (1.) David Haye
2. (4.) Amir Khan
3. (2.) Ricky Hatton
4. (3.) Carl Froch
5. (5.) Rendall Munroe
6. (6.) Matthew Macklin
7. (12.) Ryan Rhodes
8. (7.) Nathan Cleverly
9. (20.) John Murray
10. (8.) Kevin Mitchell

11. (9.) Kell Brook
12. (10.) Junior Witter
13. (11.) Bernard Dunne (Irish)
14. (13.) Martin Lindsay (Irish)
15. (14.) Darren Barker
16. (15.) Jamie McDonnell
17. (16.) Matthew Hatton
18. (17.) Enzo Maccarinelli
19. (18.) Audley Harrison
20. (19.) Nicky Cook

21. (21.) Brian Magee (Irish)
22. (22.) Jason Booth
23. (23.) Ajose Olusegun
24. (24.) Paul McCloskey (Irish)
25. (RE.) Andy Lee (Irish)
26. (25.) John Duddy (Irish)
27. (26.) Ola Afolabi
28. (27.) Craig Watson
29. (28.) John Simpson
30. (29.) Sam Sexton

Out - (30.) Ian Napa

[Horse]

Any comments, criticisms or P4P lists are very welcome.

[BigEars]

Probably your best list yet, you could argue a place here or there but you've got things pretty right at this point imo.
Of course I'd rather see Dunne removed after announcing retirement, but I know why you have him there and there's no point going over old ground discussing that.

[Coco]

Murray climbs 11 places for beating Buckland??

[slapbangwhallop]

Murray climbs 11 places for beating Buckland??

cannae wait to hear the reason for this one! 8)

[BigEars]

Murray climbs 11 places for beating Buckland??

cannae wait to hear the reason for this one! 8)

Horse probably realised he had seriously underrated Murray and such moved him up more places than he should really deserve for beating Buckland. But he probably deserves the #9 ranking.

[winkveron]

Horse,

Don't know how you work it but as Hatton has been inactive for over a year should he not drop out?

Good list though!

[Chris W 1982]

Murray's rise is astronomical.

Junior Witter is far too low.

[winkveron]

Murray's rise is astronomical.

Junior Witter is far too low.

Having said that, I remember Horse getting stick last month due to Murray's low position and he said it was due to inactivity and that when he fought again he would rise up the rankings. No-one can deny that Murray deserves his place in the top 10.

Witter, like Hatton, hasn't fought for ages!

[Finch]

What i love about these lists is that Horse always seems to post it bang on the nose of midnight, never even a minute late!

Does the same apply for new years eve?

[Horse]

Probably your best list yet, you could argue a place here or there but you've got things pretty right at this point imo.
Of course I'd rather see Dunne removed after announcing retirement, but I know why you have him there and there's no point going over old ground discussing that.

Thanks, BigEars.

[Horse]

Murray climbs 11 places for beating Buckland??

cannae wait to hear the reason for this one! 8)

Horse probably realised he had seriously underrated Murray and such moved him up more places than he should really deserve for beating Buckland. But he probably deserves the #9 ranking.

What BigEars said is fairly accurate.

Murray was ranked 12th last November just after he beat Thaxton, over the following months he fell to 20th in the rankings because of inactivity. When he beat Buckland I was able to put him where I felt he should be which was 9th in the rankings.

I feel Murray has a better record over the last 12 months than everyone he overtook, so I think this decision was fair, even though a win over Buckland is not normally the sort of win that moves a fighter up 11 places.

[Horse]

Horse,

Don't know how you work it but as Hatton has been inactive for over a year should he not drop out?

Good list though!

I don't currently take fighters out of the rankings because of inactivity. If Hatton announces his retirement then I will take him out.

[slapbangwhallop]

Horse,

Don't know how you work it but as Hatton has been inactive for over a year should he not drop out?

Good list though!

I don't currently take fighters out of the rankings because of inactivity. If Hatton announces his retirement then I will take him out.

So if he doesn't official announce his retirement he stays in in perpetuity?

[winkveron]

Shouldn't Hatton fall due to inactivity, then rise again should he win, just like Murray?

[Horse]

Murray's rise is astronomical.

It was a big jump up the rankings, but Buckland had been on good form and Murry did win the European title.

Junior Witter is far too low.

Witter has not fought for 10 months and he hasn't won a fight in over 18 months. He is only just outside the top 10, if he has a comeback win then he can start climbing the rankings again.

[Horse]

What i love about these lists is that Horse always seems to post it bang on the nose of midnight, never even a minute late!

Does the same apply for new years eve?

If I am at home on New Year's Eve then I probably will.

[alexpaterson]

Good list as usual Horse

I would have Booth a lot higher and Simpson slightly higher

[hitman09]

Good list, though Munroe is too high IMO.

[xXHAMMERXx]

Good list, though Munroe is too high IMO.

no he is in the right spot his has just won an eliminator for a world title an has defended his ero title more than the other ero champs

[hitman09]

Good list, though Munroe is too high IMO.

no he is in the right spot his has just won an eliminator for a world title an has defended his ero title more than the other ero champs

It isn't what ornaments you win that matters IMO, it's who you beat and how good you look doing so.

[Horse]

I don't currently take fighters out of the rankings because of inactivity. If Hatton announces his retirement then I will take him out.

So if he doesn't official announce his retirement he stays in in perpetuity?

No, he will fall down the rankings over time as other fighters overtake him.

[Horse]

Shouldn't Hatton fall due to inactivity, then rise again should he win, just like Murray?

That is the plan, but fighters at the top of the rankings tend to fall down the list a lot slower then those lower down.

[Horse]

Good list as usual Horse

Thanks, Alex.

I would have Booth a lot higher and Simpson slightly higher

Yes, I also think Booth should be higher in the rankings. Booth was in 16th place in March, he has since fallen 6 places in the last 3 months, which is a fast fall for a fighter that high up the rankings.

Booth's fall down the rankings in mostly due to all of the new European champions (5 of the 7 fighters that have overtaken Booth in the last 3 months are new European champions). I was not expecting that sort of thing to happen, and I perhaps placed some of the European champions higher than I should have considering some of them didn't fight stellar opposition for the title.

Simpson hasn't fought this year so I don't think his current position is too bad, as there are other good fighters at the bottom of the list. John Simpson is scheduled to fight Stephen Smith in July, if he wins that fight then he can climb quite a few places.

[Horse]

Good list, though Munroe is too high IMO.

Munroe has wins over Terrazas, Maludrottu and Martinez x2. Munroe has recently won two WBC World title eliminators and was the European champion for over two years.

I think he deserves his current position in the rankings and I don't think anyone below him has a very good case to be above him at the moment.