Green vs Briggs who have you got?

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This is a fight most of us have waited a long time to see, and wheather Briggs hasn't fought for 3 years, it's still the juciest matchup i can see Australia hosting.

For me this is the fight in which we will learn a lot more about Green, ie; a war with a very decent puncher who has a great chin.

For those who aren't aware, they had brutal sparring sessions in 2003/04 were spectaters had it 2-1 to Green.
Being that Briggs hasn't been in the ring for 3 years, who's actually giving him a chance?
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Has it been confirmed?
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July 21st, Sydney Entertainment Centre.

I think Briggs has been away from the ring too long and that Green will be too strong for him.
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Brute wrote:
I think Briggs has been away from the ring too long and that Green will be too strong for him.
Gotta agree with you here.
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:(

I'm disappointed to see this.

I know Briggsy thinks he's fighting fit, but... :(
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A few will question Briggsy's fitness etc but there is one thing that is for sure and Paul does not want to be embarrassed in this. he will come in ready to fight. Greeny offered to give Briggsy a warm up bout and he didnt want it, he said he can't get up for a warm up bout (remember Holyfield v Czyz). I think Greeny will win, but it should be a war and there is no way Green has been in a bout with anyone who punches as hard as Briggs.
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Tinnie wrote::(

I'm disappointed to see this.

I know Briggsy thinks he's fighting fit, but... :(
yip. are we gonna get the same green bashers that we got after his last few wins?
"oh briggs is old" or "oh briggs hasnt fought for 3 yrs" thats y i see it as a bad move for both. 3-5 yrs ago GREAT FIGHT, but now?????
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yeah and fair call big red, but like Greeny was saying today he tried to get Hopkins etc and no one wanted in. I am sure he couldve got someone like BJ Flores and some will say he shouldve gone that route. I am excited to see what Briggsy we get. What we know is he has a chin and can punch. Something not many of Greens recent opponents have had (Domiguez had a decent chin......).
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amwsnw wrote:yeah and fair call big red, but like Greeny was saying today he tried to get Hopkins etc and no one wanted in. I am sure he couldve got someone like BJ Flores and some will say he shouldve gone that route. I am excited to see what Briggsy we get. What we know is he has a chin and can punch. Something not many of Greens recent opponents have had (Domiguez had a decent chin......).
oh mate im aware of that, i personally think wise move from bhop. i think unless he can unnerve green with dirty tactics, greeny walks thru him. from wat ive seen recently from both guys.
id like to know who else green has been lookin at, eg the "big announcement" for december????
i would love to see him defend this title against a legit cruiser(dont care who really, as long as they legit cruiser) and then a top 5/10 cruiser. i personally would like to see huck v green. i also think green goes thru him after watchin him fight the swamp donkey. he looked strong, but very sloppy i feel.
and i noticed mention of a cruiser super 6 on the CS board. i like it. be good to see, but i get the feeling most fights would be in germany, and i really dont see danny going there(not that i blame him either)

sorry for hijacking the thread a little there
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bigred83 wrote:
amwsnw wrote:yeah and fair call big red, but like Greeny was saying today he tried to get Hopkins etc and no one wanted in. I am sure he couldve got someone like BJ Flores and some will say he shouldve gone that route. I am excited to see what Briggsy we get. What we know is he has a chin and can punch. Something not many of Greens recent opponents have had (Domiguez had a decent chin......).
oh mate im aware of that, i personally think wise move from bhop. i think unless he can unnerve green with dirty tactics, greeny walks thru him. from wat ive seen recently from both guys.
id like to know who else green has been lookin at, eg the "big announcement" for december????
i would love to see him defend this title against a legit cruiser(dont care who really, as long as they legit cruiser) and then a top 5/10 cruiser. i personally would like to see huck v green. i also think green goes thru him after watchin him fight the swamp donkey. he looked strong, but very sloppy i feel.
and i noticed mention of a cruiser super 6 on the CS board. i like it. be good to see, but i get the feeling most fights would be in germany, and i really dont see danny going there(not that i blame him either)

sorry for hijacking the thread a little there

Glad you mentioned the super 6 cruiser, like the idea but by the time the final gets around Green would be 39 pushing 40.


Cunningham,Huck,Macca,The pole who beat Fragomeni and some other Cruiser and Green are being tossed around as a few participants for the tournement.
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oliverfennell wrote:Has it been confirmed?

Yes.
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bigred83 wrote:
Tinnie wrote::(

I'm disappointed to see this.

I know Briggsy thinks he's fighting fit, but... :(
yip. are we gonna get the same green bashers that we got after his last few wins?
"oh briggs is old" or "oh briggs hasnt fought for 3 yrs" thats y i see it as a bad move for both. 3-5 yrs ago GREAT FIGHT, but now?????
Well, in this case the "haters" would be right, wouldn't they!

It's not an ideal fight but I think if Green is struggling to get a big fight internationally, a huge domestic draw makes a lot more sense than someone like Siaca.
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bigred83 wrote:
amwsnw wrote:yeah and fair call big red, but like Greeny was saying today he tried to get Hopkins etc and no one wanted in. I am sure he couldve got someone like BJ Flores and some will say he shouldve gone that route. I am excited to see what Briggsy we get. What we know is he has a chin and can punch. Something not many of Greens recent opponents have had (Domiguez had a decent chin......).
oh mate im aware of that, i personally think wise move from bhop. i think unless he can unnerve green with dirty tactics, greeny walks thru him. from wat ive seen recently from both guys.
id like to know who else green has been lookin at, eg the "big announcement" for december????
i would love to see him defend this title against a legit cruiser(dont care who really, as long as they legit cruiser) and then a top 5/10 cruiser. i personally would like to see huck v green. i also think green goes thru him after watchin him fight the swamp donkey. he looked strong, but very sloppy i feel.
and i noticed mention of a cruiser super 6 on the CS board. i like it. be good to see, but i get the feeling most fights would be in germany, and i really dont see danny going there(not that i blame him either)

sorry for hijacking the thread a little there
Couldn't agree with you more. I would like to see Green in there with any of the very top echelon guys at Cruiser, but unless it is the very best why not take this fight. makes sense financially and will create good interest in Australia...and Briggs, although out of the sport a while, is well known in the USA. Hopefully Greeny (if he wins) can get involved in the Super 6.
As for the big announcement in December, I have a feeling it will be a "big" name, not neccessarily the best opponent....Hopkins, Tarver etc etc. I hope not, but it wouldnt surprise me.
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I don't think Green gets it if thats the case, fighting Hopkins 45 years old or Tarver 41 years old is garbage. As a big big fan of Greens, if he's to fight either 1 of those 2 it will never be taken as a serious win. Green doesn't want to be that guy that people remember as the guy who granny bashed the division.

Jones was a good enough name and was still a top 5 fighter in the division, but calling out all the best fighters of the last 10 years while they are close to collecting there pension is just asking for the media and people to start questioning his believe in himself to take on fighters in there prime or at the peak of there game.

Never the less, Briggs will come to fight, he's cut from a different cloth, but Greens next fight should be against a proper Cruiser who isn't beyond 40 and been active within the last 9 months.
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Hounddawg wrote:I don't think Green gets it if thats the case, fighting Hopkins 45 years old or Tarver 41 years old is garbage. As a big big fan of Greens, if he's to fight either 1 of those 2 it will never be taken as a serious win. Green doesn't want to be that guy that people remember as the guy who granny bashed the division.

Jones was a good enough name and was still a top 5 fighter in the division, but calling out all the best fighters of the last 10 years while they are close to collecting there pension is just asking for the media and people to start questioning his believe in himself to take on fighters in there prime or at the peak of there game.

Never the less, Briggs will come to fight, he's cut from a different cloth, but Greens next fight should be against a proper Cruiser who isn't beyond 40 and been active within the last 9 months.
very true 'Dawg. I really hope it isnt a BHOP or Tarver, but that's just a gut feeling. Im gonna worry about that once/if he gets passed Briggsy.
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i remember seeing somewhere flores called greeny out, and was willing to fight him down here for free i think, y not someone like him. there are plenty of options there for him to become legit cruiser champ. so i hope he gets serious bout it. at least this time he is fighting at a higher weight again, so maybe thats part of his plan.......
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Hounddawg wrote:I don't think Green gets it if thats the case, fighting Hopkins 45 years old or Tarver 41 years old is garbage. As a big big fan of Greens, if he's to fight either 1 of those 2 it will never be taken as a serious win. Green doesn't want to be that guy that people remember as the guy who granny bashed the division.

Jones was a good enough name and was still a top 5 fighter in the division, but calling out all the best fighters of the last 10 years while they are close to collecting there pension is just asking for the media and people to start questioning his believe in himself to take on fighters in there prime or at the peak of there game.

Never the less, Briggs will come to fight, he's cut from a different cloth, but Greens next fight should be against a proper Cruiser who isn't beyond 40 and been active within the last 9 months.
Tarver probably isn't worth bothering with Hopkins is absolutely still very relevant, regardless of his age, so it's a worthy fight and a huge payday. Unfortunately the risk for Green is that if he wins, the reaction will be much the same as for the Jones win - i.e. he won't have beaten one of the top guys in the division, he'll have beaten an old has-been (even though the current evidence doesn't bear that out).
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bigred83 wrote:i remember seeing somewhere flores called greeny out, and was willing to fight him down here for free i think, y not someone like him. there are plenty of options there for him to become legit cruiser champ. so i hope he gets serious bout it. at least this time he is fighting at a higher weight again, so maybe thats part of his plan.......

Troy Ross (who's a ranked CW) also offered to come to OZ. So there are legit guys willing to fight over here, which i believe is one of Danny's peference.
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This will be a war, each fighter will be tested, but Briggsys inactivity could be the difference, a close fight to the end with greeny getting the decision... If he doesnt stop him in the 12 th...
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Lethaleigh76 wrote:This will be a war, each fighter will be tested, but Briggsys inactivity could be the difference, a close fight to the end with greeny getting the decision... If he doesnt stop him in the 12 th...
This seems the most likely
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Lethaleigh76 wrote:This will be a war, each fighter will be tested, but Briggsys inactivity could be the difference, a close fight to the end with greeny getting the decision... If he doesnt stop him in the 12 th...


A decision win to Greeny is the most likely result I see happening too.

I guess ultimately it depends on how rusty Briggs is. He'll be fit no doubt, but ring rust?

If he's really rusty, then UD to Green or possible late TKO as stated above.

If he's not too rusty, then it's a lot closer, probably a split dec to Green.

It'll be interesting to see how Green takes Briggs' power shots. Both have great chins, but from memory, I think Brigg's chin has been tested more than Green's. We could see a shock KO of Green here.
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madball1982 wrote:
Lethaleigh76 wrote:This will be a war, each fighter will be tested, but Briggsys inactivity could be the difference, a close fight to the end with greeny getting the decision... If he doesnt stop him in the 12 th...


A decision win to Greeny is the most likely result I see happening too.

I guess ultimately it depends on how rusty Briggs is. He'll be fit no doubt, but ring rust?

If he's really rusty, then UD to Green or possible late TKO as stated above.

If he's not too rusty, then it's a lot closer, probably a split dec to Green.

It'll be interesting to see how Green takes Briggs' power shots. Both have great chins, but from memory, I think Brigg's chin has been tested more than Green's. We could see a shock KO of Green here.


Like most others I feel that Briggs has been out for to long, Green must have offered him shit loads of cash, but what does it prove ?? nothing, Green/Mundine they are the same
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does it have to prove anything though?

it is a handy fight that will genrate a fair amount of money.

mosely got shitloads of cash fighting mayweather even though he stopped fighting after 2 rounds. at least these two guys will probably be trying to kill each other once in the ring u would think.
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buster007 wrote:does it have to prove anything though?

it is a handy fight that will genrate a fair amount of money.

mosely got shitloads of cash fighting mayweather even though he stopped fighting after 2 rounds. at least these two guys will probably be trying to kill each other once in the ring u would think.
Agree.

And despite the ring rust, a healthy, fit and determined Briggs is still a dangerous opponent.

I can say this much - I don't see either Greeny or Briggs turning this fight into a boring hugfest of a fight. I think that is definitely the closest to a guarantee that we can make for this fight.
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Paul Briggs Had a very similar rest after Kickboxing early in his career, when he crossed over to boxing, it done him the world of good then and who knows what we going to see come july, this could be a barnburner, it could shock people and there could be a rematch.

Briggs is only 33 going on 34, he has remained in shape while commentating on fox, not once in his 3 years has he been out of shape, he's known about this fight for about 8 months or more, i think people should remember who Paul Briggs is.

I'm currently going to this fight, IMO, if Green stops Briggs, it won't be because Briggs is over the top, Ring rust possibly, and it will not be because of age, and as stated above you show me where Briggs has busted out to 100 kegs and he has to drop 10 kilos to get to this weight, he's doing it easy and training the house down, the only thing wrong with this fight is that Briggs hasn't had a warm up fight, which he doesn't want.

This will be a classic.
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