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I go Nelson. His power would be key.. However Morales was very tuff.
Id say Nelson UD or possibly a TKO.
I'm thinking these 2 guys are very underated.
BTW id make Nelson a 2/7 fav. So I don't even see this as that tight a matchup.
I wanna see wat u guys see..... It's gotta be Nelson.... Cmon
Azumah Nelson vs Erik Morales @ 130
Re: Azumah Nelson vs Erik Morales @ 130
I think you possibly need to see more of Morales (prime of course) because you seriously under-rate him. If he was able to take Pac's power and angles on the first fight, then he surely could've compete with Nelson.
Re: Azumah Nelson vs Erik Morales @ 130
I have seen plenty of Morales. And I don't underate him. I just rate Nelson very high.Idisagree wrote:I think you possibly need to see more of Morales (prime of course) because you seriously under-rate him. If he was able to take Pac's power and angles on the first fight, then he surely could've compete with Nelson.
Re: Azumah Nelson vs Erik Morales @ 130
I think Azumah would do well agains Eric, He gave Sanchez all he could handle before his peak, I think he'd give Morales more than he could handle.
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Re: Azumah Nelson vs Erik Morales @ 130
I will be like a politician who shows up for roll call only to abstain. This very hard to pick. Both were great fighters and could do many things well. Would have been a great fight.
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Re: Azumah Nelson vs Erik Morales @ 130
Agreed. My money's on Nelson, but this can't be done easily. Just as a green version of him did so well against Sanchez, so, too, did Morales --- when outside his peak --- beat the great Pacquiao.Idisagree wrote:I think you possibly need to see more of Morales (prime of course) because you seriously under-rate him. If he was able to take Pac's power and angles on the first fight, then he surely could've compete with Nelson.
It's a closer fight than Gambler reckons, IMO, but I favour Nelson. Nelson against Chavez was the one we all really missed out on, real-time.
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Re: Azumah Nelson vs Erik Morales @ 130
re the bolded bit, how so? JCC's lightweight reign (1987) began before the Professor's reign at 130lbs (1988) and it was pretty obvious JCC had outgrown 130 by '87. i mean, we missed out because their careers didn't overlap, basically. or is that what you were saying?Goodnight, Irene wrote:Agreed. My money's on Nelson, but this can't be done easily. Just as a green version of him did so well against Sanchez, so, too, did Morales --- when outside his peak --- beat the great Pacquiao.Idisagree wrote:I think you possibly need to see more of Morales (prime of course) because you seriously under-rate him. If he was able to take Pac's power and angles on the first fight, then he surely could've compete with Nelson.
It's a closer fight than Gambler reckons, IMO, but I favour Nelson. Nelson against Chavez was the one we all really missed out on, real-time.
anyways, re the hypo. what hasn't been mentioned yet is which zumah turns up, lets not discount the possibility of him doing much better in a rematch, when more motivated or clued into his opponent's game.
there's quite a lot that Morales can do to bother Nelson here, IMO. the Prof could always be outworked by a busy fighter, which Morales mostly was, and whilst I don't really remember anyone sticking it to Nelson with a jab- as his control of distance, plus readiness&willingness to counter jabs with heavy right hands, tended to offset his opponents' jabs- nonetheless i could see Morales having some success backing Nelson onto the ropes with his long-armed flurries.
On Nelson's side of the ledger, he was IMO a much smarter fighter than Morales (I don't, by the way, hold with the theory held by many, that Morales was a boxer who just happened to exchange and fight like a brawler, to his detriment, a great deal, due to some combination of mexican machismo and crowdpleasing chutzpah... to me he simply wasn't very clever in terms of in ring IQ, nor was he super-skilled)... anyways..... i think in a fastpaced fight I would like Morales to outpoint a possibly sluggish Nelson, but for Nelson in the return to take just a little more of the initiative, earlier, in order to take some of the fire away from Morales' attacks...
the 3rd match, a fired-up Morales takes just by wanting it more and working harder for it, though taking some humungous right hands in the process.
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Re: Azumah Nelson vs Erik Morales @ 130
Could've worded it better, admittedly. Yes, I mean we didn't miss Chavez-Nelson as a big fight by much, as they were pretty close to over-lapping, & it would've been a wonderful fight.
Re: Azumah Nelson vs Erik Morales @ 130
I'd have Morales.