novice boxer considering going pro

Bella Sera · Post by **Bella Sera** » 31 Mar 2005, 15:05

yes, i know i'd have a ways to go. i'm a 16 year old, female, superflyweight at 112 1/2 lbs, 5'4". i've trained in Jhoon Rhee Tae kwon do for about 2 years, i've taken a little aikido, i instructed a high school kickboxing class, was an assistant instructor when i did to tae kwon do, i've competed in a couple martial arts tournaments, never took anything less than 2nd place. I want to know what it's like to b pro. is there a lot of trips to the hospital? how likely is it that i'd have brain damage? Will someone have to change my diaper by the time i retire? what determines when u go from nivice to amateur, etc? How much does it cost to become pro, including having a manager, your seconds, traveling expenses, etc.? also, how much on average do boxers make for boxing? my dad is trying to talk me out of going pro, but i love sparring. the more info the better, thank you. btw, just wondering, orthodox and unorthodox, is that where your hands are or which foot is forward? btw, i normally fight left foot forward, but i can switch to southpaw any time. (just verifying my flexibility in sparring).

locoxelbox · Post by **locoxelbox** » 02 Apr 2005, 00:41

You don't seem to know much about pro boxing. And you're way too young to turn pro at this point. Try out the amateur game first and get some experience, then you'll know if you're good enough to turn pro.

babyhuey · Post by **babyhuey** » 04 Apr 2005, 13:07

locoxelbox wrote: You don't seem to know much about pro boxing. And you're way too young to turn pro at this point. Try out the amateur game first and get some experience, then you'll know if you're good enough to turn pro.

i couldent have said it better... just to add a few things though,
i went pro only after 6-1 as a amateur,
but i knew the answers to all these question way before i considered it,
as a female you might have a little more trouble finding amateur fights
depending on where you live but,
at 16 you have a long time,
i would suggest at the very least,
be a open boxer before considering the jump to pro,
but, dont get discouraged about doing it eather,
its well worth the work
i fought out of the same amateur gym as molly mcconnell,
she dident have alot of amateur fights but she won nationals 3 times
and is now 4-0 as a pro, shes world ranked as 9.
womens boxing is wide open right now, not the same money in it as the guys but its alot shorter road to getting a belt and being a champion
then the mens divisions.....
not to take anything away from the ladies,
boxing is boxing,
it still takes the same disipline, drive, charecter to do it
best advice is, stay busy, work hard, be focused
and get lots of expierence in the amateurs ....good luck

Bella Sera · Post by **Bella Sera** » 08 May 2005, 02:06

ok, the main thing i want to know is what it's like to be a pro boxer. trust me, i have drive. ask anyone who knows me. i want to know how much money is involved, how many fights, how often, what all is involved in the fightes, how many rounds, and how long do the rounds normally go, etc. i need to know all of this before i decide to go pro or not. i know i have to start out amateur, everyone does. i just want to make sure this is something i want to do before i go at it full speed, because when i decide to do something, there's no looking back, i give it all i got and i don't stop until i'm there. i know it's different for men and women, i know i'm young, but when's a better time to ask questions and start if i do decide to go pro? please take me serioucely.

babyhuey · Post by **babyhuey** » 08 May 2005, 13:17

Bella Sera wrote:ok, the main thing i want to know is what it's like to be a pro boxer. trust me, i have drive. ask anyone who knows me. i want to know how much money is involved, how many fights, how often, what all is involved in the fightes, how many rounds, and how long do the rounds normally go, etc. i need to know all of this before i decide to go pro or not. i know i have to start out amateur, everyone does. i just want to make sure this is something i want to do before i go at it full speed, because when i decide to do something, there's no looking back, i give it all i got and i don't stop until i'm there. i know it's different for men and women, i know i'm young, but when's a better time to ask questions and start if i do decide to go pro? please take me serioucely.

heres the best advice myself or anyone here can give you,
get with a expierenced, honest, manager ask him these questions,
people will tell you anything,
i dont know where your from but if you need help finding a serious manager let me know,
ill ask my manager if he knows anyone from where ever it is you live
pm me if need be

Bella Sera · Post by **Bella Sera** » 08 May 2005, 17:23

help finding a seriouce manager would be great. my current trainer has boxed amateurly for a few years, but that's it. i live in north idaho. i'm like an hour north of coeur d'alene. how long is someone normally an amateur boxer before they go pro? jw.

babyhuey · Post by **babyhuey** » 08 May 2005, 23:04

Bella Sera wrote:help finding a seriouce manager would be great. my current trainer has boxed amateurly for a few years, but that's it. i live in north idaho. i'm like an hour north of coeur d'alene. how long is someone normally an amateur boxer before they go pro? jw.

gotta be 18yrs old at least, but 10 - 20 amateur fights minimum is best,
none needed, but at your age you got time,
i will be happy to do some research in reguards to managers or match makers in idaho, but
you still have a few years before its even a option
in the mean time shoot for a state, regional or national tournament...
im in oregon, so hopefully i will see you fight some time
i know we hold our regionals in boise every year...
what gym are you out of.....?????

boxmel · Post by **boxmel** » 14 Jun 2005, 23:47

Bella Sera wrote:help finding a seriouce manager would be great. my current trainer has boxed amateurly for a few years, but that's it. i live in north idaho. i'm like an hour north of coeur d'alene. how long is someone normally an amateur boxer before they go pro? jw.

If someone is definitely dedicated to being a good pro, that person would probably have at least 4 years of open experience (age 17 and up). Most of our top pros were amateurs for at least 9 to 13 years. There are many opportunities for you as an amateur boxer - the JO Championships, the National PAL, the Ringside tournament, to name a few. If you were to turn pro with very little, or any, experience, you would most likely become an opponent for other women fighters, definitely not make a lot of money, and not last very long.

Are you currently registered with USA Boxing and competing?

babyhuey · Post by **babyhuey** » 15 Jun 2005, 09:35

boxmel wrote:
Bella Sera wrote:help finding a seriouce manager would be great. my current trainer has boxed amateurly for a few years, but that's it. i live in north idaho. i'm like an hour north of coeur d'alene. how long is someone normally an amateur boxer before they go pro? jw.
If someone is definitely dedicated to being a good pro, that person would probably have at least 4 years of open experience (age 17 and up). Most of our top pros were amateurs for at least 9 to 13 years. There are many opportunities for you as an amateur boxer - the JO Championships, the National PAL, the Ringside tournament, to name a few. If you were to turn pro with very little, or any, experience, you would most likely become an opponent for other women fighters, definitely not make a lot of money, and not last very long.

Are you currently registered with USA Boxing and competing?

i completely agree

boxmel · Post by **boxmel** » 15 Jun 2005, 10:00

Hi Baby Huey - is Bill Mertz your coach?

babyhuey · Post by **babyhuey** » 15 Jun 2005, 15:13

boxmel wrote:Hi Baby Huey - is Bill Mertz your coach?

good guess...bill was my "amateur" coach for my first 5 amateur bouts
i opened a gym with charlie rios (bill asst.) 4 years ago in beaverton
westside pal boxing team.... and things are going great
we sent 2 kids to nationals last year for the first time
efram estrada 12yrs old 70 lbs with 34 fights
and oscar herrera 13 and 75 lbs with 26 fights
im having fun with it, im currently doing the pro thing and testing the waters.... makeing a few $$ on the side,
but not quiting my day job eather

and getting my 15 minutes of fame i guess
im 1-0 as a pro and was going to fight this saturday in renton washington...but....

.....
poison oak has me against the ropes right now..as i type this,
but if i can shake it between now and friday, im still on the card
bill mertz is a great coach ......i have alot of respect for him
known him since i was a kid
bill told me this is his 26 yr as a coach,
hes still doing his thing

i have also been on your site before and like it alot

i advise anyone interested in amateur boxing to check it out
http://www.amateurboxing.com

boxmel · Post by **boxmel** » 15 Jun 2005, 15:31

Baby Huey - do you have a real name? LOL! Glad to hear you're involved with the kids. I wish more of our former amateurs would give back to the program. Any kids going to Brownsville this year? Good luck with testing the pro waters. Be sure you quit when the time comes - you're more valuable with all your faculties intact. Thanks for the compliment on my web page - I appreciate it.

babyhuey · Post by **babyhuey** » 15 Jun 2005, 15:47

boxmel wrote:Baby Huey - do you have a real name? LOL! Glad to hear you're involved with the kids. I wish more of our former amateurs would give back to the program. Any kids going to Brownsville this year? Good luck with testing the pro waters. Be sure you quit when the time comes - you're more valuable with all your faculties intact. Thanks for the compliment on my web page - I appreciate it.

my name is james huey...
i have also wondered why more old amateurs and pros are not in attendance at amateur shows, or coaching ect.
i read about all these old pro boxers
of the past who fought in oregon and washington,
i would think they would be around more...???.....who knows.....
some do, i always see steve chase, and dick wagner makes a apperance
ray lampkin sr., clayton hires...and a few more
but i see all these guys on fight posters at the gym and wonder where there at........????
do you get more involvement in california

ABA Boxing · Post by **ABA Boxing** » 15 Jun 2005, 15:52

i'm a 16 year old, female, superflyweight at 112 1/2 lbs, 5'4

Called James!

Is that a US female name?

boxmel · Post by **boxmel** » 16 Jun 2005, 00:57

[quote="babyhuey]
my name is james huey...
do you get more involvement in california[/quote]

Sigh - you would think, wouldn't you! No, we really don't. When Genaro Hernandez was fighting, he used to come around all the time - but that's been a while. Shane Mosley will be opening his own gym in the near future; haven't seen Oscar locally for over 10 years. Jose Aguiniga, up and coming prospect, comes to local shows in Oxnard (his home town), as does several other up-and-coming former amateurs. Julio Dias and Antonio Diaz come to all the Coachella shows. Antonio has his own PAL gym now and is coaching. Saw Lamon Brewster at a local show a year ago and Diego Coralles came to one of our local shows last year when he was training in So. Cal. That's about it.

boxmel · Post by **boxmel** » 16 Jun 2005, 00:59

ABA Boxing wrote:i'm a 16 year old, female, superflyweight at 112 1/2 lbs, 5'4. Called James, is that a US female name?

Actually - no.

That's a first for me. You seem to be more involved in boxing than most 16 year olds. Seems as if you're willing to learn from oldtimers who have been around for a while.