Hypothetical Match-Up Game

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Mercer eeks it out, with the jab an important edge. A close decision, 6-5-1.

15 Rounds: Commander 'Vander & The Manassa Mauler... 8)
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Holyfield on a wide decision against the Mauler, he will be too fast and strong for him, but Dempsey will go the distance.

Prince Nassem Hamed v Erik Morales at Featherweight
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IRLangmaid25 wrote:Holyfield on a wide decision against the Mauler, he will be too fast and strong for him, but Dempsey will go the distance.

Prince Nassem Hamed v Erik Morales at Featherweight
It's gonna provoke a storm of howling & gnashing of teeth, but I always thought that Hamed would knock out Morales, who (apropos of Counter-Puncher) simply wasn't smart enough to hold on when hurt & I think would be goaded into walking on to something, at some point, after kicking the shite out of Hamed. Probably late-ish. Say Hamed in ten, & they both spend the night in hospital.

Gene Fulmer vs. Robbie Sims, 12 rounds.
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Hmm interesting one. Fullmer had three helpings of Dick Tiger, four of Sugar Ray Robinson and two with Carmen Bassillo and fought Paul Pender who were all World titlists at Middleweight. Sims got a decisions out of Doug De Witt, Roberto Duran and Iran Barkley and lost to Nigel Benn. So it is a tough one to call but Fullmer's experience at a higher level and stamina would come through with a late stoppage.

Here is my next helping

Arturo Gatti v Ricky Hatton
Mike Tyson v David Tua

But as for Hamed v Morales in my opinion. I think it would be a very exciting and entertainng fight, Hamed's showboating will wind up Morales and Morales will come storming in and try and take Hamed's head off, but Hamed will try and use his reflexs to land some big shots on him that will rock Morales, but ulitmate Morales' bigger cajones will see him beat Hamed.
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IRLangmaid25 wrote:Hmm interesting one. Fullmer had three helpings of Dick Tiger, four of Sugar Ray Robinson and two with Carmen Bassillo and fought Paul Pender who were all World titlists at Middleweight. Sims got a decisions out of Doug De Witt, Roberto Duran and Iran Barkley and lost to Nigel Benn. So it is a tough one to call but Fullmer's experience at a higher level and stamina would come through with a late stoppage.

Here is my next helping

Arturo Gatti v Ricky Hatton
Mike Tyson v David Tua

But as for Hamed v Morales in my opinion. I think it would be a very exciting and entertainng fight, Hamed's showboating will wind up Morales and Morales will come storming in and try and take Hamed's head off, but Hamed will try and use his reflexs to land some big shots on him that will rock Morales, but ulitmate Morales' bigger cajones will see him beat Hamed.
Hatton stops Gatti in nine, & Tyson does likewise with Tua in just three. The speed of Tyson's assault, in particular, would completely over-whelm Tua, & not just physically.

Arguello vs. Saddler at 130...
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Honestly I always thought Saddler was overrated, mainly for beating a past-prime post-plane crash rehab Pep. He was tricky, crafty, and pretty skiled, but he has nothing much to keep off what Arguello had to offer. AA gives Saddler the sustained beating of a lifetime before ending things violently with a huge right cross in the 10th.

George Foreman vs. Riddick Bowe circa 1993
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Diamond WEAPON wrote:Honestly I always thought Saddler was overrated, mainly for beating a past-prime post-plane crash rehab Pep. He was tricky, crafty, and pretty skiled, but he has nothing much to keep off what Arguello had to offer. AA gives Saddler the sustained beating of a lifetime before ending things violently with a huge right cross in the 10th.

George Foreman vs. Riddick Bowe circa 1993
Great battle at times, but Bowe is just a little too spritely, aided by youth, & his higher punch output wins the day. Both men rocked, possibly one or either man could hit the canvas.

Azumah Nelson vs. Flash Elorde at 130 over 15 rounds!
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Azhumah Nelson with a late stoppage as I think he would have guile to defeat constant pressure from Flash Elorde.

Next up.
Mike Tyson v James Toney at Heavyweight
Lennox Lewis v Wladimir K at Heavyweight
Riddick Bowe v Vitali K at Heavyweight
Roy Jones (at his prime) v Mikkel Kessler at Super Middleweight
Steve Collins v Joe Calzaghe at Super Middleweight
Jonathan Thaxton v Amir Khan at Lightweight
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What happened to one at a time?

RJJ VS Kessler

Which Kessler shows up? the one devoid of ideas against Ward? Or the better version?

IMO RJJ would overwhelm and stop the Kessler that fought Ward but Kessler in his better moods would survive to hear the cards read widely in RJJs favour. Either way I feel that RJJ would have had too much speed for Kessler to catch him cleanly.

My go:

Jake La Motta (1950) vs Archie Moore (1940s)
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Moore bts Lamotta TKO 10


Moore vs Foster @ 175lbs
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Moore Ko's Foster after taking him into the later rounds Rd 12 KO

Antonio Cervantes Vs Eric Morales
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MatthewS wrote:What happened to one at a time?

RJJ VS Kessler

Which Kessler shows up? the one devoid of ideas against Ward? Or the better version?

IMO RJJ would overwhelm and stop the Kessler that fought Ward but Kessler in his better moods would survive to hear the cards read widely in RJJs favour. Either way I feel that RJJ would have had too much speed for Kessler to catch him cleanly.

My go:

Jake La Motta (1950) vs Archie Moore (1940s)
The Mikkel Kessler that shows up is the one who beat Carl Froch mate.
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BoxBuzz wrote:Moore Ko's Foster after taking him into the later rounds Rd 12 KO

Antonio Cervantes Vs Eric Morales

Oooh, Kid Pambele all night for me. Too big everywhere, not just in the frame, much too mobile, much too good a jab. Morales would make it to the final bell, but he'd look like a flipping gargoyle. Cervantes W12 Morales, & Morales ends up in the emergency ward.

Zab Judah then steps up to the plate, to fight Cervantes over 12.
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BTW: I agree totally with Matt. Some people like to go into detail, & posting half-a-dozen just seems rude. A feature & a support bout is cool, but it seems to contravene the spirit, if not the letter of the rules to dump a vast batch in here.
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Datsue wrote:BTW: I agree totally with Matt. Some people like to go into detail, & posting half-a-dozen just seems rude. A feature & a support bout is cool, but it seems to contravene the spirit, if not the letter of the rules to dump a vast batch in here.
I am guilty of that I am sorry but sometimes I had a good run of dream match ups that should shown. But anyway For the two bout rules I am still going for

Vitali K v Riddick Bowe
Wladimir K v Lennox Lewis.
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IRLangmaid25 wrote:
Datsue wrote:BTW: I agree totally with Matt. Some people like to go into detail, & posting half-a-dozen just seems rude. A feature & a support bout is cool, but it seems to contravene the spirit, if not the letter of the rules to dump a vast batch in here.
I am guilty of that I am sorry but sometimes I had a good run of dream match ups that should shown. But anyway For the two bout rules I am still going for

Vitali K v Riddick Bowe
Wladimir K v Lennox Lewis.
Bowe is in a different league to the over-rated & stiff-as-a-board Klitschko, who cannot deal with Bowe's surprisingly vast repetoire of weapons. Bowe UD, something like 8-3-1. Klitschko is just not what people think he is.

Double drop-out for the brothers here, too --- Lewis KO's Klitschko with a well-timed, snappy overhand right (think the hook which turned out Rahman's lights) in seven rounds. It would be somewhat difficult for Lewis until the KO, but Klitschko would never truly threaten.

Mickey Walker vs. Ingemar Johansson!
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Walker, game as always, is wading into Johansson who is awe struck that this chubby welterweight is trading blows with him---but the excitement is short lived, as Johansson lands a solid left hand that wobbles Walker, and a viscous (but telegraphed) right hook crash lands on his chin and Walker is counted out in the 2nd round...


Main Event:

Evander Holyfield vs Mate Parlov [175 pounds], 15 rounds

Undercard:

Tom Sharkey vs Jack Sharkey, 10 rounds

Oscar De La Hoya (Pacquia fight) vs Julio Cesar Chavez Jr (as of now), 10 rounds
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Holyfield on a majority decision.

Tom SD Jack.

De La Hoya TKO8 Chavez.

1992 Larry Holmes vs. 1997 Mike Tyson. 12 Rounds...
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Holmes loses a controversial majority decision to Tyson...


Joe Louis vs George Foreman, 15 rounds
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HomicideHenry wrote:Holmes loses a controversial majority decision to Tyson...


Joe Louis vs George Foreman, 15 rounds
I like the sounds of this one. Foreman has the big punching power, while Louis has the superior movement and is the better finisher. Both will trade knockdowns but Louis takes on a split decision.

Next up

Julio Cesar Chavez Sr v Alexis Arguello at Super Featherweight and then Light Welter
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HomicideHenry wrote:Holmes loses a controversial majority decision to Tyson...


Joe Louis vs George Foreman, 15 rounds
With George's power, he's always in with a shot but I think he finds it difficult to land enough on Louis to end it, and gets hit a lot more than he's used to, and a lot harder too, fading and getting KOed around 11.

Carnera vs Valuev, 12 rounds.
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Carnera wins a decision over Valuev


Julio Cesar Chavez (prime) vs Oscar De La Hoya (lightweight), 15 rounds
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HomicideHenry wrote: Julio Cesar Chavez (prime) vs Oscar De La Hoya (lightweight), 15 rounds
DLH in my eyes was a very skilled fighter but over 15 rounds I think JCC batters him late on for a stoppage that is borne as much from exhaustion and an inability to match the workrate as it is from punches taken.

Joe Frazier (1971 the first Ali fight) vs David Haye (now)
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MatthewS wrote:
HomicideHenry wrote: Julio Cesar Chavez (prime) vs Oscar De La Hoya (lightweight), 15 rounds
DLH in my eyes was a very skilled fighter but over 15 rounds I think JCC batters him late on for a stoppage that is borne as much from exhaustion and an inability to match the workrate as it is from punches taken.

Joe Frazier (1971 the first Ali fight) vs David Haye (now)
Frazier KO 3

Haye vs Hide
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BarryWashington wrote:
gambler49 wrote:
MatthewS wrote: DLH in my eyes was a very skilled fighter but over 15 rounds I think JCC batters him late on for a stoppage that is borne as much from exhaustion and an inability to match the workrate as it is from punches taken.

Joe Frazier (1971 the first Ali fight) vs David Haye (now)
Frazier KO 3

Haye vs Hide
Was that Frazier/Haye match-up supposed to be taken seriously or as a joke? (I hope the latter).

And Gambler you'll have to be more specific about which version of Haye and Hide would be in this hypothetical match-up . . .
I assumed its taken for granted that they are in their primes. However this match would be at HW.
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