HOW TO AVOID COUNCIL TAX BY OVERHAND RIGHT

overhand_right · Post by **overhand_right** » 07 Apr 2005, 08:55

Sorry i meant to title the threas 'How to avoid council tax? by overhand_right'. Note the use of question mark.

Me & my flat mate have just been hit off with a beastly £700.00 council tax bill, that we can pay in "10 easy installments" of "only" £70.00 a month. Apparently the 300 quid they rape me on my wage slip every month isn't enough tax.

Not being disabled or dole scum or a hard-done-by ethnic minority (boo hoo), its hard to fathom how i can avoid this bill without doing anything too illegal.

Marking the envelope 'Addressee Unknown' and returning the bill has crossed my mind, but thats strictly a short term solution.

Any ideas?

pasty_spud · Post by **pasty_spud** » 07 Apr 2005, 09:12

seek asylum.....

jamesmcdonnell · Post by **jamesmcdonnell** » 07 Apr 2005, 09:37

overhand_right wrote:Sorry i meant to title the threas 'How to avoid council tax? by overhand_right'. Note the use of question mark.

Me & my flat mate have just been hit off with a beastly £700.00 council tax bill, that we can pay in "10 easy installments" of "only" £70.00 a month. Apparently the 300 quid they rape me on my wage slip every month isn't enough tax.

Not being disabled or dole scum or a hard-done-by ethnic minority (boo hoo), its hard to fathom how i can avoid this bill without doing anything too illegal.

Marking the envelope 'Addressee Unknown' and returning the bill has crossed my mind, but thats strictly a short term solution.

Any ideas?

There's no way out mate.

How would being an ethnic minority help? It never ceases to amaze me how people think that people from ethnic minorities get it easy. Do you think the local council are going to not send council tax bills because someone is Asian/Afro Carribean/etc. Everyone has to pay it, like it or lump it, even pensioners have to pay 75% of their bill, which is scandalous.

Having been on the dole myself for over 6 months (and not through laziness I hasten to add), it would be hard for someone on the dole to pay council tax. If I recall, I still had to pay a percentage.

Up until recently, asylum seekers were not allowed to work, so how on earth would they pay council tax? Now that they are allowed to work, I have no doubt they are also eligible to pay council tax or soon will be.

Asylum seekers are getting a lot of stick as if it's their fault that we are all taxed to the hilt, but it's not, look at the amount of money wasted by this government (and all governments) on beaurocracy. I work in the health service, where they pay people to come from blue chip companies on 100,00 grand a year salaries who stay for a year, then fornicate off after wrecking everything. All the money spent on the health service has gone on useless middle managers who waste their time on spreadsheets and meetings, and fornicate all of it on actual nursing staff and beds. It's a joke.

Believe me, Asylum seekers are the least of our worries, governments spend much more on defence, civil servants who push paper around desks all day, it's an easy target, but everyone is looking in the wrong direction.

Look at all the asians who came to this country from Kenya and Uganda in the 70's, most of them are running successful businesses and contributing plenty to the economy. Show a hungry man an opportunity he will take it with both hands.

There will always be pisstakers, but how many people born in this country are lazy fornicating dole scroungers? There's a lot more of them than there are asylum seekers. Too many people born here think that an honest day's work is beneath them, they'd rather be knocking out puff or charlie, breaking and entering or signing on, or all three. People have gotten soft.

Council tax is a fornicating diabolical liberty in my opinion. It is based on the supposed value of your house, but if you are renting, what the fornicate has that got to do with it. I share a massive 6 bed house with about 7 other people, no doubt the house is worth in excess of 500.000 probably more like 600-700,000, but inside, it's falling to pieces, yet we get stung for a fornicate off council tax. In addition to having my meagre wage packet taxed, I end up spending another 40 quid a month on bills and council tax, and that's splitting it between loads of people.

Council tax is a fornicating joke, it should be based on your earnings, not the fornicating value of your house it should at least take into consideration if you own or rent the fornicating property, and it's state of repair.

knockout · Post by **knockout** » 07 Apr 2005, 09:38

depends how long you intend to stay at the address

jamesmcdonnell · Post by **jamesmcdonnell** » 07 Apr 2005, 09:39

The whole reason council tax came about was Maggie thatchers fault, she took away the funding to local councils from central government, forcing every local body to raise the majority of their funds. That's all well and good, but the poorer boroughs where people earn the least, also need the most money levvied from their citizens, and so people feel the pinch more. Rich councils like Ken and Chelsea, have ridiculously low council taxes, and yet they have fornicating minted bastards living there. That is just plain wrong.

kevo · Post by **kevo** » 07 Apr 2005, 09:42

The area of Liverpool where I live, Walton, is undergoing a lot of work, in time for 2008 (liverpool is the capital of culture). To pay for this, the council tax, which is already quite high, is going up again.Council tax?! It's a fornicating joke.

Mind you, I still live at home, so i'm not really arsed

knockout · Post by **knockout** » 07 Apr 2005, 09:43

jamesmcdonnell wrote:The whole reason council tax came about was Maggie thatchers fault, she took away the funding to local councils from central government, forcing every local body to raise the majority of their funds. That's all well and good, but the poorer boroughs where people earn the least, also need the most money levvied from their citizens, and so people feel the pinch more. Rich councils like Ken and Chelsea, have ridiculously low council taxes, and yet they have fornicating minted bastards living there. That is just plain wrong.

in fact westminster didnt even increase there council tax this year... lucky for all those living on park lane

jamesmcdonnell · Post by **jamesmcdonnell** » 07 Apr 2005, 09:45

Kevo wrote:The area of Liverpool where I live, Walton, is to undergo a lot of work, in time for 2008 (liverpool is the capital of culture). Where are the funds coming from for this facelift? Council tax! It's a fornicating joke.

Mind you, I still live at home, so i'm not really arsed

There was one year where people in Westminster got a rebate I think!

Mate, Liverpool was what started the whole thing. Thatcher used it as a stick to beat Hatton, because he tried to fight central government. She destroyed Hatton and Liverpool city council.

Surely there are some funds from the EU?

I think big businesses who stand to benefit should be forced to invest in the facelift, it's them who will coin it in when the place is revamped and the house prices shoot up and the retail take zooms up.

knockout · Post by **knockout** » 07 Apr 2005, 09:45

Kevo wrote:The area of Liverpool where I live, Walton, is to undergo a lot of work, in time for 2008 (liverpool is the capital of culture). Where are the funds coming from for this facelift? Council tax! It's a fornicating joke.

Mind you, I still live at home, so i'm not really arsed

Kevo its the same in london mate, Olympic bid is pushing up council tax (Ken Livingstones share) tube (up 10% on last year) and congestion charge (up 60% on last year)

Then i see the metropolitan police rolling around town in BMW X5 and 530D.......... nice to know your money is being well spent

kevo · Post by **kevo** » 07 Apr 2005, 09:49

knockout wrote:Then i see the metropolitan police rolling around town in BMW X5 and 530D.......... nice to know your money is being well spent

Same up here lad. See the bizzies driving round in Grand Cherokee JEEPs and fornicating Jags!

knockout · Post by **knockout** » 07 Apr 2005, 09:49

jamesmcdonnell wrote:

There was one year where people in Westminster got a rebate I think!

that was last year i think.... didnt some politician get caught nicking £18m from the council and had to pay it back????

jamesmcdonnell · Post by **jamesmcdonnell** » 07 Apr 2005, 09:50

Yeah, and what about those £600 chairs for the new Mayors office, something like 400 chairs at 600 quid a pop.

Or that pudendum who spent 35K on wallpaper, think it was the lord mayor of London, scandalous.

Working for the government in any capacity is a right fornicating cushy number. Hence I am applying for a council job now. I've done the private sector, had good earnings, now I want the easy life, doing fornicate all like all the other bastards....

Living in London is no joke, so many unseen taxes, food costs a bomb, so does booze, a night out is a bloody 100 quid easy if you want to go somewhere nice. 10-15 quid into a club, 8 quid a drink, 20 quid on a taxi home if you get trouted. Council tax....

AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAARRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRGGGGGGGGGGG!!

I CAN'T fornicating TAKE IT, STOP THE TRAIN I WANT OFF!!!!

knockout · Post by **knockout** » 07 Apr 2005, 09:50

Kevo wrote:
knockout wrote:Then i see the metropolitan police rolling around town in BMW X5 and 530D.......... nice to know your money is being well spent
Same up here lad. See the bizzies driving round in Grand Cherokee JEEPs and fornicating Jags!

i mean, motorway police is ok i suppose... but fornicating inner london police should be in fornicating smart cars... there are no mountains to climb so they dont need the X5 BMW.....

jamesmcdonnell · Post by **jamesmcdonnell** » 07 Apr 2005, 09:52

knockout wrote:
jamesmcdonnell wrote:

There was one year where people in Westminster got a rebate I think!

that was last year i think.... didnt some politician get caught nicking £18m from the council and had to pay it back????

Yes that old tory pudendum heiress, what's her name, wizened old fornicator. What I don't understand is, why didn't she go to jail? Bitch.

knockout · Post by **knockout** » 07 Apr 2005, 09:52

james, Lord mayor ken livingstone is a tosser... end of story.......

jamesmcdonnell · Post by **jamesmcdonnell** » 07 Apr 2005, 09:54

http://www.bushywood.com/dame_shirley_porter.htm

Bard of Boxrec · Post by **Bard of Boxrec** » 07 Apr 2005, 09:55

jamesmcdonnell wrote:
Kevo wrote:The area of Liverpool where I live, Walton, is to undergo a lot of work, in time for 2008 (liverpool is the capital of culture). Where are the funds coming from for this facelift? Council tax! It's a fornicating joke.

Mind you, I still live at home, so i'm not really arsed

There was one year where people in Westminster got a rebate I think!

Mate, Liverpool was what started the whole thing. Thatcher used it as a stick to beat Hatton, because he tried to fight central government. She destroyed Hatton and Liverpool city council.

Surely there are some funds from the EU?

I think big businesses who stand to benefit should be forced to invest in the facelift, it's them who will coin it in when the place is revamped and the house prices shoot up and the retail take zooms up.

Hatton tried to fight central government? Thatcher destroyed Hatton with a stick? What on earth are you talking about???

kevo · Post by **kevo** » 07 Apr 2005, 09:55

knockout wrote:
Kevo wrote:
knockout wrote:Then i see the metropolitan police rolling around town in BMW X5 and 530D.......... nice to know your money is being well spent
Same up here lad. See the bizzies driving round in Grand Cherokee JEEPs and fornicating Jags!
i mean, motorway police is ok i suppose... but fornicating inner london police should be in fornicating smart cars... there are no mountains to climb so they dont need the X5 BMW.....

Its not just the fact that they've got these motors, its the way they drive. One hand one the wheel, leaning back in their seats, wearing sunglasses! fornicating smug bastards. I've even heard of coppers driving Evo's and Lotus elites!

jamesmcdonnell · Post by **jamesmcdonnell** » 07 Apr 2005, 09:57

knockout wrote:james, Lord mayor ken livingstone is a tosser... end of story.......

Anyone with any real political ambition is a tosser. They are all just obsessed with power, fame and making a fortune for themselves. The government is the biggest fornicating mafia out there, and they all waste tonnes of money on their own hierarchy. Jobs for the boys, and girls.

jamesmcdonnell · Post by **jamesmcdonnell** » 07 Apr 2005, 09:58

Riddick Blowe wrote:
jamesmcdonnell wrote:
Kevo wrote:The area of Liverpool where I live, Walton, is to undergo a lot of work, in time for 2008 (liverpool is the capital of culture). Where are the funds coming from for this facelift? Council tax! It's a fornicating joke.

Mind you, I still live at home, so i'm not really arsed

There was one year where people in Westminster got a rebate I think!

Mate, Liverpool was what started the whole thing. Thatcher used it as a stick to beat Hatton, because he tried to fight central government. She destroyed Hatton and Liverpool city council.

Surely there are some funds from the EU?

I think big businesses who stand to benefit should be forced to invest in the facelift, it's them who will coin it in when the place is revamped and the house prices shoot up and the retail take zooms up.
Hatton tried to fight central government? Thatcher destroyed Hatton with a stick? What on earth are you talking about???

Derek, not Ricky!

overhand_right · Post by **overhand_right** » 07 Apr 2005, 10:07

How about we all cross over to the darkside & become Romany Gypsys?

Then we can escape council tax (and also forfeit any (slim) chances of career progression and a meaningful life).

Come on, lets throw some money together. Get a caravan, a few sleeping bags...

jamesmcdonnell · Post by **jamesmcdonnell** » 07 Apr 2005, 10:21

overhand_right wrote:How about we all cross over to the darkside & become Romany Gypsys?

Then we can escape council tax (and also forfeit any (slim) chances of career progression and a meaningful life).

Come on, lets throw some money together. Get a caravan, a few sleeping bags...

There was a very good show on about Romany Gypsies the other night. And it showed exactly how local councils are forcing them on to illegal sites. This guy and a group of families who were romany's, clubbed together, bought a plot of land for £15,000 so they could have a permanent site. They wanted to concrete it, so they applied for a 'change of use' which meant going to the courts. The next thing, the courts deny it, and tell them that they have to move off the land after a compulsory purchase order, forcing them to sell up and bugger off, with nowhere else in the area to go and having to leave behind a load of their stuff because they didn't have enough vehicles to tow it all, it was a fornicating scandal!

I know this is only one case, but I think it's very irresponsible of the papers and the tories to use them to try and win votes, it's dangerous as the next thing you know, some 'have a go hero' who reads the sun will be down there pouring petrol over some poor fuckers caravan.

Although they get a rough ride for living outside of the bounds of 'normal' society, what is wrong with wanting to be able to move around, rather than living in one pitch.

Why can't the government just deal with it sensibly, and grant permission for people to establish sites it's a storm in a teacup, and just the sort of thing the sun loves to whip up some hatred.

nickd · Post by **nickd** » 07 Apr 2005, 10:35

Exactly!! The Tories near brought this country to its knees, whatever you say about Labour this country is in far better shape than under the last Tory government. VOTE LABOUR!

jamesmcdonnell · Post by **jamesmcdonnell** » 07 Apr 2005, 10:39

Yep, it's the lesser of two evils. Michael Howard quite simply, is a pudendum.

nickd · Post by **nickd** » 07 Apr 2005, 10:39

And he looks like a kiddy fiddler.

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