We're having some sweepstakes at work & i dont know anything about horse racing.
My sleazy middle aged Jewish mate Richard Killen who blows big money at the bookies in Leeds on horses all the time but isnt going to check till saturday, which will be too late for me to lay money down. Someone fill me in on the inside track. Don't want any fainting jockeys either you bastards.
WHICH HORSE IS GONNA WIN ON SATURDAY?
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shit, I forgot its the national coming up.
A good tactic is, just stick a fiver each way on the 4 biggest favourites. If there is one horse that isn't suited to the conditions in that 4, pick one 33/1 dog who is. Then have a £2 punt on another 33/1 dog who's been consistent over distance/good jumper/tipped as a darkhorse
A good tactic is, just stick a fiver each way on the 4 biggest favourites. If there is one horse that isn't suited to the conditions in that 4, pick one 33/1 dog who is. Then have a £2 punt on another 33/1 dog who's been consistent over distance/good jumper/tipped as a darkhorse
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Calm Royal is a good each way tip.
I do follow the horse a bit in prep form the national, although I am tempted to go for my heart and go one (or both) of the horse trained by Peter Bowen. His stable is about 3 miles from me. My uncle spoke to him the other day and he said one of his horses stood a damn good chance, the other will probably just make the trip round.
Things is..... my Uncle couldn't remember which one - he seemed to think it was the less fancied of the two so I said was it "Swansea Bay" and he said that name doesn't ring a bell - Swansea Bay is the less fancied of the two Peter Bowen horses.
I do follow the horse a bit in prep form the national, although I am tempted to go for my heart and go one (or both) of the horse trained by Peter Bowen. His stable is about 3 miles from me. My uncle spoke to him the other day and he said one of his horses stood a damn good chance, the other will probably just make the trip round.
Things is..... my Uncle couldn't remember which one - he seemed to think it was the less fancied of the two so I said was it "Swansea Bay" and he said that name doesn't ring a bell - Swansea Bay is the less fancied of the two Peter Bowen horses.
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Tony McCoy rode a winner and 3 2nds on Friday so he obviously knows his way round the course.
Thing is the National is a lottery. Some chick who's picked a horse 'because it's got a nice name' always wins sweeps wherever I work.
Anyway, horse racing's fixed anway isn't it. If I ever go I usually look to see what horses have travelled the furthest and back that one e/w...let's face it, you don't drive a horse from Ayr to Brighton (or something like that) unless it's going to do the business do you?
Thing is the National is a lottery. Some chick who's picked a horse 'because it's got a nice name' always wins sweeps wherever I work.
Anyway, horse racing's fixed anway isn't it. If I ever go I usually look to see what horses have travelled the furthest and back that one e/w...let's face it, you don't drive a horse from Ayr to Brighton (or something like that) unless it's going to do the business do you?
Bowen
has two horses left in - Take The Stand and Ballycassidy. Take The Stand finished second in the Gold Cup (beat Ballycassidy easily) so if he can take to the big fences he must have a chance. His problem could be his jumping, he fell in the Welsh National and made two bad mistakes at Cheltenham and he won't be able to do that at Liverpool. Ballycassidy was a very good novice but hasn't done much of note this season, can't see him getting round tbh. I know for a fact that the connections of MONTY'S PASS are very confident he'll win again, I doubt he'll do it carrying 11-6 though. If I had to have a bet i'd go for MARCUS DU BERLAIS, he's got a feather weight, solid stayer and jumps well.
Re: Bowen
Was just about to say that Swansea Bay has pulled out. So it must be Take the Stand who he is saying has a chance. There is a segment on him on the BBC website now also. Perhaps it was wise that Swansea Bay was pulled out, I think he could be a good each way bet in future years.steve68 wrote:has two horses left in - Take The Stand and Ballycassidy. Take The Stand finished second in the Gold Cup (beat Ballycassidy easily) so if he can take to the big fences he must have a chance. His problem could be his jumping, he fell in the Welsh National and made two bad mistakes at Cheltenham and he won't be able to do that at Liverpool. Ballycassidy was a very good novice but hasn't done much of note this season, can't see him getting round tbh. I know for a fact that the connections of MONTY'S PASS are very confident he'll win again, I doubt he'll do it carrying 11-6 though. If I had to have a bet i'd go for MARCUS DU BERLAIS, he's got a feather weight, solid stayer and jumps well.
I like Clan Royal to finish the job this time, his weight isn't at all bad (Surprised me) and of course came close last time out (so can make the trip).
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Re: Bowen
Monty's Pass will certainly make it round, which is half the battlesteve68 wrote:has two horses left in - Take The Stand and Ballycassidy. Take The Stand finished second in the Gold Cup (beat Ballycassidy easily) so if he can take to the big fences he must have a chance. His problem could be his jumping, he fell in the Welsh National and made two bad mistakes at Cheltenham and he won't be able to do that at Liverpool. Ballycassidy was a very good novice but hasn't done much of note this season, can't see him getting round tbh. I know for a fact that the connections of MONTY'S PASS are very confident he'll win again, I doubt he'll do it carrying 11-6 though. If I had to have a bet i'd go for MARCUS DU BERLAIS, he's got a feather weight, solid stayer and jumps well.
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Re: Bowen
Monty's Pass will certainly make it round, which is half the battlesteve68 wrote:has two horses left in - Take The Stand and Ballycassidy. Take The Stand finished second in the Gold Cup (beat Ballycassidy easily) so if he can take to the big fences he must have a chance. His problem could be his jumping, he fell in the Welsh National and made two bad mistakes at Cheltenham and he won't be able to do that at Liverpool. Ballycassidy was a very good novice but hasn't done much of note this season, can't see him getting round tbh. I know for a fact that the connections of MONTY'S PASS are very confident he'll win again, I doubt he'll do it carrying 11-6 though. If I had to have a bet i'd go for MARCUS DU BERLAIS, he's got a feather weight, solid stayer and jumps well.
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McCoy looked very good first race of the day today. Not too keen on Clan Royal to win though, but is a fair E/W-erdandantheweatherman wrote:Tony McCoy rode a winner and 3 2nds on Friday so he obviously knows his way round the course.
Thing is the National is a lottery. Some chick who's picked a horse 'because it's got a nice name' always wins sweeps wherever I work.
Anyway, horse racing's fixed anway isn't it. If I ever go I usually look to see what horses have travelled the furthest and back that one e/w...let's face it, you don't drive a horse from Ayr to Brighton (or something like that) unless it's going to do the business do you?
Jonjo's stable is shit out of form and has been all season. If they weren't I'd fancy Clan Royal to make the frame, but the fact they are...I'd stay clear.stujones wrote:Why don't you like Clan Royal, Jo.
Also significant that JP McManas brought Innox in the run up to the race, despite already having the then fav (Clan Royal). A bit "odd". I'm not sure the yard expects too much from him...but you never know. 2nd last year... he jumps and he stays...so in theory has a good chance.
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Leftgroove says all. I just don't think he will win, although of course has to be respected on his 2nd last year. Also, avoid Pipe's horses like the plague. He has a bad enough record in the national as it is. But Murphy, his 1st rider, is an absolute prat. Last race yesterday Murphy was riding Celtic Son. Absolutely streets ahead of the rest in terms of class, just bobbing along. All he had to do was jump the last and he'd won. So then Murphy takes the horse like they were about to jump over flying scorpians or something. Absolute idiot. (Not that I'm bitter or anything :x )Loftgroov wrote:Jonjo's stable is shit out of form and has been all season. If they weren't I'd fancy Clan Royal to make the frame, but the fact they are...I'd stay clear.stujones wrote:Why don't you like Clan Royal, Jo.
Also significant that JP McManas brought Innox in the run up to the race, despite already having the then fav (Clan Royal). A bit "odd". I'm not sure the yard expects too much from him...but you never know. 2nd last year... he jumps and he stays...so in theory has a good chance.
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