King Davidson lost in Japan

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King Davidson lost on a sd 118-109 117-110 114-115 looks like a lil home town cooking
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wow, just wow. First Tauasa and now this...
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Two judges barely giving King a round and the other being on the level giving it to King by a point, suggests a stew of the highest order.

Basically you have to win by KO in these joints.
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Beltane wrote:Two judges barely giving King a round and the other being on the level giving it to King by a point, suggests a stew of the highest order.

Basically you have to win by KO in these joints.
its the same in australia
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there is always home ground advantage, King has been lazy lately, not finishing fights off
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p4p1 wrote:
Beltane wrote:Two judges barely giving King a round and the other being on the level giving it to King by a point, suggests a stew of the highest order.

Basically you have to win by KO in these joints.
its the same in australia
Not everywere mate :TU: :TU:

Believe me, If a Thai gives you a hiding i wont give you the fight :lol:
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hmmm... no one place is better or worse when it comes to applying "home turf advantage". Australia, NZ, Ethiopia you name it....
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Of course we have hometown decisions, but not so bleedingly obvious!
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Typical, you encourage fighters to travel overseas only for thier unbeaten record to be tarnished. Great advertisement to go work overseas, we'll pay you well but if you win you still won't win.
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Before jumping to conclusions, has anyone actually seen the fight?
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dberry wrote:Before jumping to conclusions, has anyone actually seen the fight?

Nope, but when the cards are that far out......118-109 and 114-115 something doesn't add up.
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dberry wrote:Before jumping to conclusions, has anyone actually seen the fight?
LOL exactly what I was thinking. Who's to say the 114-115 wasn't the dubious score?
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*Ota defeats Davidson

By Joe Koizumi

Hard-hitting Japan-based American, Charlie Ota (AKA Charles Bellamy; (14-1-1, 10 KOs), 153.73, impressively kept his OPBF super welter belt as he came off the canvas in the first round and swept all rounds from the second session on to earn a split but well-received decision over previously unbeaten Australian southpaw, WBA #12 King Davidson (12-1, 6 KOs), 153, over twelve heats on Tuesday in Tokyo, Japan. The official tallies were as follows: Thai referee Nopparat Sricharoen 118-109 (identical to this reporter’s score), judge Kazunobu Asao (Japan) 117-110, both for Ota, and judge Brian McMahon (Australia) 115-114 for Davidson.

The taller Australian caught Charlie with a looping right hook following a southpaw left-right hook, temporarily dropping him flat with a thud in the initial session. The tide, however, surprisingly turned in round two, as the desperate champ recklessly began to mix it up toe-to-toe with the highly expected challenger and had the upper hand.

The less skillful but hard-hitting Ota gamely kept boring in with vicious shots with Davidson retreating and repeating clinches to avert his furious attack. Davidson, seemingly for fear of the champ’s go-for-broke assault, apparently appeared so intimidated that he couldn’t again display his excellent form shown in the outset. Regardless of big or small margins, it was a night for Charlie who won almost all rounds from the second canto. The ref should have penalized a point or two for Davidson too often holding the aggressive champ’s arms.

There were a couple of problems behind the fight scene, as follows: (1) the Australian judge’s score looked too partial to his countryman, and (2) Davidson was the current PABA champ, and the OPBF rendered a mandatory shot to Davidson without mentioning he’s the PABA ruler even though he was rated by the WBA. Wasn’t it a rule that the OPBF should not rank the PABA champ in the OPBF ratings?

The loser, Davidson is scheduled to defend his PABA super welter belt against Elvin Marbun in Australia this coming August despite his defeat under the 154-pound limit tonight.*

:roll: The 114-115 score was from Australian judge, Brian McMahon the other two scores where from the Japanese judge and a partisan (Thai) judge.
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king was saying he knocked him down in the first round and they rang the bell straight away and waited to put the count on its bullshit
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I was at the fight the australian judge was alot closer to the mark than the other two judges,the fight could of gone either way but to score the way they did was terrible. I can guarantee brian mcmahons score was close to the mark.
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Thanks for the inside word rb63
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Good luck to Greg Eadie later next month http://boxrec.com/list_bouts.php?human_ ... &cat=boxer He will need it.
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ben k wrote:
p4p1 wrote:
Beltane wrote:Two judges barely giving King a round and the other being on the level giving it to King by a point, suggests a stew of the highest order.

Basically you have to win by KO in these joints.
its the same in australia
Not everywere mate :TU: :TU:

Believe me, If a Thai gives you a hiding i wont give you the fight :lol:
:lol:
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Here's a Digest of the fight -- finally:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bm43AB8_ ... re=related
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ryan711 wrote:king was saying he knocked him down in the first round and they rang the bell straight away and waited to put the count on its bullshit
Based on the vid above it looks like King lied to you.
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I don't know what all the fuss is about?

He's not that fornicating good!

I've seen him live and he does nothing but showboat and to be frank, couldn't knock the skin off a custard with those snappy arm punches. Nothing comes from the body so there's no substance to it.

Home cooking as one suggested earlier. Have you ever stopped to think our judge scored it too close and the other two which were wide were a more accurate reflection?
King Davidson ain't going anywhere.
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p4p1 wrote:
Beltane wrote:Two judges barely giving King a round and the other being on the level giving it to King by a point, suggests a stew of the highest order.

Basically you have to win by KO in these joints.
its the same in australia

Dead right, we're no better.
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Hey Guys, I can tell you this, I actually put this fight together for King Davidson, It was a mandatory defence and he went to Tokyo with both Johnny Lewis and Peter Mitrevski Snr.

There was absolutely NO Stew here, I can defend the Japanese officials with a fairly certain degree of fairness and honesty in their officiating, I travel there a fair bit to work fights and yes, you will see the odd bad decision here and there, but no better or worse than any other country, "theres an old saying" People who live in glass houses, should't throw stones" "Me mum told me"

I would have more concern for the Refereeing by just a one of the officials there, He is the one who really stuffed up the Lawrence Tauasa fight, and again while i was waiting for my fight on Nov 6th, he did exactly the same and the Japanese Trainer was so livid and angry, he attacked the Referee, who is not a Japanese, he is from an African country but lives and works in Japan, he's an awful Referee and stops fights without a reason, he has got it all wrong so many times before, and should not be in the ring at all.

Now, King Davidson knocked down his opponent, who's name is Charles Bellamy, Bellamy is an American Sailor who now resides and fights out of Japan and has adopted a Japanese name of Charlie Ota..Why i would never know???

Anyway, Davidson knocked down Bellamy twice in the first round and he barely survived the round, but what happened afte this is just incredible.

Davidson, never won another round, he went into his shell and did nothing at all for the rest of the fight, Now to be fair, I have not seen the fight as yet, but Peter Mitrevski called me immediately after the fight from Japan.

He told me, "His exact words were" King lost every round, he was lazy and did nothing, he won the first round and then just ran and hid for the rest of the fight, Mitrevski later (just 2 weeks ago when we were chatting) told me Davidson never did his roadwork and while Peter was away, Davidson just went through the motions of training etc, which is hardly the preparation for a quality regional title and a Mandatory defence like this, that took a almost 8 months in the making to happen.

Anyway, as a result of his poor effort and bad attitude, Davidson decided to depart the Lewis/Mitrevski camp and go back overseas and tried to snub the contract he has with Mitrevski, which is water tight. I can tell you Mitrevski has pumped a heap of money into Davidson, not only had he given him lots of money to live etc, but he has also arranged sponsorship and a place to live etc etc, equipment, all the usual, but this bloke decided to try and snub his way out of the contract by heading back to Nigeria.

Bad move, last i spoke to Peter two weeks ago, Davidson was back in Australia with nothing to do, he cannot fight anywhere without approval and his career is basically in Limbo.

Mitrevski even told me that he, at 40 odd something in age was beating Davidson in sprints just prior to the fight and he then knew that while Peter was in London for his son's failed Commonwealth title fight i think it was, Davidson bludged and did not do the work asked of him.

So that was from the horses mouth, they lost and lost convincingly, and while i am reticent to accuse one of our Judges of being biased, it does appear this was the case, he is an experienced official and i don't know why he judged the fight this way when the fighter's corner even told me that "they lost every round after the first"

I know we all have bad nights, none of us are exempt and we are only ever as good as our last fight unless you work in Qld where there is no-one to critique an official and nothing is ever said and no-one is ever accountable, it's a joke?

While i was in Tokyo from November 4 until Nov 8th to referee another OPBF title fight, the next night, while having dinner with Tsuyoshi Yasukochi who is the Boss of the Japan Boxing Commission/OPBF and also Fighting Harada, the matter was raised with me, they were very diplomatic and not too critical of the Judge in question, but were more puzzled by his performance.

I hope this will clear up any thoughts about one of our guys got spiked in another overseas country, because it is just not the case.

Now i stand to be corrected on some of the ings i have written here, but what i know and was told by the people connected with the fight, this is as accurate as i can be for you to make your own conclusions.


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kylamy wrote:Hey Guys, I can tell you this, I actually put this fight together for King Davidson, It was a mandatory defence and he went to Tokyo with both Johnny Lewis and Peter Mitrevski Snr.

There was absolutely NO Stew here, I can defend the Japanese officials with a fairly certain degree of fairness and honesty in their officiating, I travel there a fair bit to work fights and yes, you will see the odd bad decision here and there, but no better or worse than any other country, "theres an old saying" People who live in glass houses, should't throw stones" "Me mum told me"

I would have more concern for the Refereeing by just a one of the officials there, He is the one who really stuffed up the Lawrence Tauasa fight, and again while i was waiting for my fight on Nov 6th, he did exactly the same and the Japanese Trainer was so livid and angry, he attacked the Referee, who is not a Japanese, he is from an African country but lives and works in Japan, he's an awful Referee and stops fights without a reason, he has got it all wrong so many times before, and should not be in the ring at all.

Now, King Davidson knocked down his opponent, who's name is Charles Bellamy, Bellamy is an American Sailor who now resides and fights out of Japan and has adopted a Japanese name of Charlie Ota..Why i would never know???

Anyway, Davidson knocked down Bellamy twice in the first round and he barely survived the round, but what happened afte this is just incredible.

Davidson, never won another round, he went into his shell and did nothing at all for the rest of the fight, Now to be fair, I have not seen the fight as yet, but Peter Mitrevski called me immediately after the fight from Japan.

He told me, "His exact words were" King lost every round, he was lazy and did nothing, he won the first round and then just ran and hid for the rest of the fight, Mitrevski later (just 2 weeks ago when we were chatting) told me Davidson never did his roadwork and while Peter was away, Davidson just went through the motions of training etc, which is hardly the preparation for a quality regional title and a Mandatory defence like this, that took a almost 8 months in the making to happen.

Anyway, as a result of his poor effort and bad attitude, Davidson decided to depart the Lewis/Mitrevski camp and go back overseas and tried to snub the contract he has with Mitrevski, which is water tight. I can tell you Mitrevski has pumped a heap of money into Davidson, not only had he given him lots of money to live etc, but he has also arranged sponsorship and a place to live etc etc, equipment, all the usual, but this bloke decided to try and snub his way out of the contract by heading back to Nigeria.

Bad move, last i spoke to Peter two weeks ago, Davidson was back in Australia with nothing to do, he cannot fight anywhere without approval and his career is basically in Limbo.

Mitrevski even told me that he, at 40 odd something in age was beating Davidson in sprints just prior to the fight and he then knew that while Peter was in London for his son's failed Commonwealth title fight i think it was, Davidson bludged and did not do the work asked of him.

So that was from the horses mouth, they lost and lost convincingly, and while i am reticent to accuse one of our Judges of being biased, it does appear this was the case, he is an experienced official and i don't know why he judged the fight this way when the fighter's corner even told me that "they lost every round after the first"

I know we all have bad nights, none of us are exempt and we are only ever as good as our last fight unless you work in Qld where there is no-one to critique an official and nothing is ever said and no-one is ever accountable, it's a joke?

While i was in Tokyo from November 4 until Nov 8th to referee another OPBF title fight, the next night, while having dinner with Tsuyoshi Yasukochi who is the Boss of the Japan Boxing Commission/OPBF and also Fighting Harada, the matter was raised with me, they were very diplomatic and not too critical of the Judge in question, but were more puzzled by his performance.

I hope this will clear up any thoughts about one of our guys got spiked in another overseas country, because it is just not the case.

Now i stand to be corrected on some of the ings i have written here, but what i know and was told by the people connected with the fight, this is as accurate as i can be for you to make your own conclusions.


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Brad Vocale

Thank you, Brad, for this information, and for putting the fight together. When I heard the fight was made, I thought -- given Davidson's extensive amateur background -- that it was going to be a very tough night for Charlie. What you have written here for the most part confirms my Japanese friends' and another reliable source's accounts of the fight and the events leading up to it (that Charlie won pretty much every round after the first, Davidson's lack of training, etc.). If Davidson had trained properly, he might very well have won (this could be a good lesson for him). That said, much credit to Charlie, who I don't believe started boxing until six or seven years ago (he was a wrestler before that).

Just one important point of correction: the referee who screwed over Lawrence Tauasa on the night of May 8, 2010 in Osaka was not the African referee you mention (who is based in Eastern Japan and referees most of his bouts in the Tokyo area), but a Japanese referee named Jun Kawakami (he also stopped the first fight of the card, Rio Hidaka vs. Ki-Nam Kim, prematurely in favor of Hidaka, the Japanese fighter).

Here's the second part of the digest of Ota vs. Davidson:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=brc6JwddOPQ

PS -- Charles Bellamy took the last name "Ota" because Ota is the last name of his Japanese sponsor -- this is a fairly common practice for non-Japanese who box out of gyms in Japan.
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Cutman Scabbers wrote:
kylamy wrote:Hey Guys, I can tell you this, I actually put this fight together for King Davidson, It was a mandatory defence and he went to Tokyo with both Johnny Lewis and Peter Mitrevski Snr.

There was absolutely NO Stew here, I can defend the Japanese officials with a fairly certain degree of fairness and honesty in their officiating, I travel there a fair bit to work fights and yes, you will see the odd bad decision here and there, but no better or worse than any other country, "theres an old saying" People who live in glass houses, should't throw stones" "Me mum told me"

I would have more concern for the Refereeing by just a one of the officials there, He is the one who really stuffed up the Lawrence Tauasa fight, and again while i was waiting for my fight on Nov 6th, he did exactly the same and the Japanese Trainer was so livid and angry, he attacked the Referee, who is not a Japanese, he is from an African country but lives and works in Japan, he's an awful Referee and stops fights without a reason, he has got it all wrong so many times before, and should not be in the ring at all.

Now, King Davidson knocked down his opponent, who's name is Charles Bellamy, Bellamy is an American Sailor who now resides and fights out of Japan and has adopted a Japanese name of Charlie Ota..Why i would never know???

Anyway, Davidson knocked down Bellamy twice in the first round and he barely survived the round, but what happened afte this is just incredible.

Davidson, never won another round, he went into his shell and did nothing at all for the rest of the fight, Now to be fair, I have not seen the fight as yet, but Peter Mitrevski called me immediately after the fight from Japan.

He told me, "His exact words were" King lost every round, he was lazy and did nothing, he won the first round and then just ran and hid for the rest of the fight, Mitrevski later (just 2 weeks ago when we were chatting) told me Davidson never did his roadwork and while Peter was away, Davidson just went through the motions of training etc, which is hardly the preparation for a quality regional title and a Mandatory defence like this, that took a almost 8 months in the making to happen.

Anyway, as a result of his poor effort and bad attitude, Davidson decided to depart the Lewis/Mitrevski camp and go back overseas and tried to snub the contract he has with Mitrevski, which is water tight. I can tell you Mitrevski has pumped a heap of money into Davidson, not only had he given him lots of money to live etc, but he has also arranged sponsorship and a place to live etc etc, equipment, all the usual, but this bloke decided to try and snub his way out of the contract by heading back to Nigeria.

Bad move, last i spoke to Peter two weeks ago, Davidson was back in Australia with nothing to do, he cannot fight anywhere without approval and his career is basically in Limbo.

Mitrevski even told me that he, at 40 odd something in age was beating Davidson in sprints just prior to the fight and he then knew that while Peter was in London for his son's failed Commonwealth title fight i think it was, Davidson bludged and did not do the work asked of him.

So that was from the horses mouth, they lost and lost convincingly, and while i am reticent to accuse one of our Judges of being biased, it does appear this was the case, he is an experienced official and i don't know why he judged the fight this way when the fighter's corner even told me that "they lost every round after the first"

I know we all have bad nights, none of us are exempt and we are only ever as good as our last fight unless you work in Qld where there is no-one to critique an official and nothing is ever said and no-one is ever accountable, it's a joke?

While i was in Tokyo from November 4 until Nov 8th to referee another OPBF title fight, the next night, while having dinner with Tsuyoshi Yasukochi who is the Boss of the Japan Boxing Commission/OPBF and also Fighting Harada, the matter was raised with me, they were very diplomatic and not too critical of the Judge in question, but were more puzzled by his performance.

I hope this will clear up any thoughts about one of our guys got spiked in another overseas country, because it is just not the case.

Now i stand to be corrected on some of the ings i have written here, but what i know and was told by the people connected with the fight, this is as accurate as i can be for you to make your own conclusions.


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Brad Vocale

Thank you, Brad, for this information, and for putting the fight together. When I heard the fight was made, I thought -- given Davidson's extensive amateur background -- that it was going to be a very tough night for Charlie. What you have written here for the most part confirms my Japanese friends' and another reliable source's accounts of the fight and the events leading up to it (that Charlie won pretty much every round after the first, Davidson's lack of training, etc.). If Davidson had trained properly, he might very well have won (this could be a good lesson for him). That said, much credit to Charlie, who I don't believe started boxing until six or seven years ago (he was a wrestler before that).

Just one important point of correction: the referee who screwed over Lawrence Tauasa on the night of May 8, 2010 in Osaka was not the African referee you mention (who is based in Eastern Japan and referees most of his bouts in the Tokyo area), but a Japanese referee named Jun Kawakami (he also stopped the first fight of the card, Rio Hidaka vs. Ki-Nam Kim, prematurely in favor of Hidaka, the Japanese fighter).

Here's the second part of the digest of Ota vs. Davidson:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=brc6JwddOPQ

PS -- Charles Bellamy took the last name "Ota" because Ota is the last name of his Japanese sponsor -- this is a fairly common practice for non-Japanese who box out of gyms in Japan.

Cutman, thanks for clarifying that for me, i was not 100% sure, I thought it was Vinny Martin who has made some monumental errors, while he is a real nice bloke, he is just not a good Ref, well yet anyway.

I was aware of the the situation with Japanese sponsors, i was just saying i thought Bellamy sounded better than Ota, but in respect to his sponsors he assumed that name, I was not sure, but was told he was a very very good wrestler that competed in an olympics ?? again i stand to corrected.

Charlie Ota/Bellamy is a good fighter and has since successfully defended again, Like you, I also felt that had Davidson trained properly and been fit, he may have won the fight, but take nothing away from Charlie, all he can do is his best and that's what he did.

It's a real shame about the fallout with Davidson and Mitrevski, I feel for Peter cos he truly beleived that King would go all the way and he did invest a huge amount of money into him, but its a lesson to be learned i guess with some of these visiting Africans, they can sometimes be all out just for themselves, not saying thats the case with them all, but a couple of our Promoter/Trainers here in Aust have sour tastes in their mouthes as a result.

Regards
Brad
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