The first Jr. Middleweight champion dies

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The first Jr. Middleweight champion dies

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First of all I want to say rest in peace champ, and my condolences to the family members who will surely miss him. Sounds like he lived a full life and had the opportunity to succeed and do many of the things he wished to do in his 70 years.

And I am instinctively very suspicious of the diagnosis. My considered belief is that it is very convenient, and perhaps politically correct to connect a former boxers passing with that particular assessment. I'm not on the scene and it's certainly possible that this is right on the money. However just such pronouncements have OFTEN been made in the past in error because no one bothered to go deeper than some basic assumptions. Many such calls are made because it is less expensive to make such a pronouncement than to truly discover the facts. Head injury of this nature can almost always cause complications in conjunction with other ailments, but very rarely is it the main issue. Far too often this call is made when in fact the head injuries were a minor or at the very least NOT the major contributor.

But when this diagnosis is in play at all, it is ALMOST ALWAYS gets first billing. And I feel this fact is very under appreciated. Please don't lose perspective regarding my comments, it just is what it is. I'm not trying to promote the notion that knocks on the noggin are a contributor to good health.
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BoxBuzz wrote:First of all I want to say rest in peace champ, and my condolences to the family members who will surely miss him. Sounds like he lived a full life and had the opportunity to succeed and do many of the things he wished to do in his 70 years.

And I am instinctively very suspicious of the diagnosis. My considered belief is that it is very convenient, and perhaps politically correct to connect a former boxers passing with that particular assessment. I'm not on the scene and it's certainly possible that this is right on the money. However just such pronouncements have OFTEN been made in the past in error because no one bothered to go deeper than some basic assumptions. Many such calls are made because it is less expensive to make such a pronouncement than to truly discover the facts. Head injury of this nature can almost always cause complications in conjunction with other ailments, but very rarely is it the main issue. Far too often this call is made when in fact the head injuries were a minor or at the very least NOT the major contributor.

But when this diagnosis is in play at all, it is ALMOST ALWAYS gets first billing. And I feel this fact is very under appreciated. Please don't lose perspective regarding my comments, it just is what it is. I'm not trying to promote the notion that knocks on the noggin are a contributor to good health.
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You know it's really amazing how little you hear about Moyer. He was a world champion, had an 18-year career with well over 100 fights and fought a boatload of top fighters; from Sugar Ray Robinson to Vito Antuofermo!
He also fought Hall of Famers Griffith,Benvenuti,Rodriguez, and Monzon. Also fought Dupas, Harrington, Archer, Paret, Tony DeMarco, Paddy DeMarco, Don Jordan, and Johnny Saxton.

He lost a lot of these fights but he won enough to prove that he was a very good fighter.
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