How Many Of Muhammad Ali's Fights Were Legitimate?

GranberryReturns · Post by **GranberryReturns** » 20 Jul 2010, 06:34

jrc26 · Post by **jrc26** » 20 Jul 2010, 07:49

As opposed to illegitimate? I would say all of them. I am not sure what you are referencing exactly. The only 2 fights I have ever heard called into question was Liston II and Spinks I. If Liston pussed out and took a dive then there is nothing he could do about that, and I don't think the outcome would have changed anyways.

And I find it very hard to believe that Ali lost to Spinks the first time on purpose simply to be a 3 time champion. That is beyond silly.

jimglen · Post by **jimglen** » 20 Jul 2010, 08:34

Given what we know about boxing - it would be NO surprise at all if a couple were dodgy, and it shouldn't comes as a shock either!

Darling · Post by **Darling** » 20 Jul 2010, 16:55

jimglen wrote:Given what we know about boxing - it would be NO surprise at all if a couple were dodgy, and it shouldn't comes as a shock either!

jimglen · Post by **jimglen** » 20 Jul 2010, 17:29

People are watching "you" Cee

iamasadlittleboy · Post by **iamasadlittleboy** » 20 Jul 2010, 17:52

jrc26 wrote:As opposed to illegitimate? I would say all of them. I am not sure what you are referencing exactly. The only 2 fights I have ever heard called into question was Liston II and Spinks I. If Liston pussed out and took a dive then there is nothing he could do about that, and I don't think the outcome would have changed anyways.

And I find it very hard to believe that Ali lost to Spinks the first time on purpose simply to be a 3 time champion. That is beyond silly.

I thought he was getting at the wins over Norton and Young

Darling · Post by **Darling** » 21 Jul 2010, 00:31

jimglen wrote:People are watching "you" Cee

Jimbo, have you ever thought of becoming a moderator? You have all the attributes for that position.

actjac · Post by **actjac** » 21 Jul 2010, 13:39

Jimmy Ellis was a setup. It was just a payday for both who grew up together and were both trained by Angelo Dundee.....Angelo worked Ellis' corner for this fight.