Anthony Small sees parallel with Ali

[Spud]

Mods,

Any chance of closing this thread?

[dondada]

Mods,

Any chance of closing this thread?

Bloody hope not. This thread isn't a single mother who owes money to a loan shark so don't try kicking its door in!

Seriously though, as Whicker points out, these things are very f*cking annoying. Radical muslims are using the rights given here which they want to deny people having in their world. If the British government decided to take a similar line to the one they espouse, many of them would be dead.

[Spud]

Mods,

Any chance of closing this thread?

Bloody hope not. This thread isn't a single mother who owes money to a loan shark so don't try kicking its door in!

Seriously though, as Whicker points out, these things are very f*cking annoying. Radical muslims are using the rights given here which they want to deny people having in their world. If the British government decided to take a similar line to the one they espouse, many of them would be dead.

SSSHHHHHHhhhhhh

I am seriously trying to find another job - not even getting paid that well from the existing one!!

As for your second para - nice - liked it!!!

[Darling]

Did someone mention Quagmire?

[DEKKER87]

And so where was The US and the so called allies when Argentina Attacked the Falklands?

the US were obliged to offer us supply lines under the NATO agreement (which they did) and also forced Chile to allow us to use landing strips from which to launch attacks on Argie airbases on the mainland.

Your obviously ill-informed judging from your third rate jargon.

i agree that the taliban need to be removed

like saddam needed to be removed.

but allot of the times it isnt even the taliban who NATO ends up fighting its the tribals in the rural areas

the two are interchangable.

'i'm sure your unaware that the generals higher up have stated they would rather hold talks with the taliban'

patronising prick….what you’re talking about is Petraeus’s strategy that worked out quite well in Iraq with the Sunni awakening councils…I’ve no problem in talking to them…you seem to want us to merely up and leave and allow the talibs to slaughter those who believe in freedom.

'8 years of fighting has only seemed to strengthen the resistance'

What planet are you on?? What a ridiculous statement. There is no ‘resistance’ there are terrorist fascists trying to impose their 6th century paradigm on defenceless afghans. And ‘useful idiots’ like yourself who seem to think that global geo-politics is a sixth form


'The MOD has even stated that sometimes they dont recognise the enemy who there fighting they end up fighting warlords,druglords,tribesmen, etc etc'

Oh well…kill em all then.

'Salman rushdie was a british citizen and the ppl protesting him england were all british citizens but by your flawed logic because there muslims and they worship a ''pedophile prophet'' there removed the right to express there views'

No you fornicating numpty….it’s because they were threatening him with death….Khomeni pronounced a fatwah against him and he’s lived under full time police protection for years.

'If people don’t like the freedoms this country offers then they are welcome to move to Saudi or Egypt or Syria and see how they fare there.'

lets be perfectly blunt here – these muslim protestors are Islamic fundamentalists….they don’t care about afghans or Iraqis….they care about the promotion of wahabi / salafist islam in this country and across the west…and they’ve got weakminded people like yourself blagged into believing that bombs are goin off on underground trains and buses because of western crusades against islam. They’re not. They’re goin off because impressionable young muslims are being brainwashed by elderly conservative muslim sheikhs into blowing themselves to bits.

That’s all.

And rather than point at that and say that’s a product of evil you point at our own forces who, regardless of civilian casualties, are there to make the lives of the local people better not worse.

But don’t let the facts get in the way of a angst-ridden self-hating and racist rant about western forces actions eh.

[DEKKER87]

Mods,

Any chance of closing this thread?

why!?!?

<sigh>

so much for freedom of speech eh.

[Dioufy]

He's an absolute idiot, but people who reply to his constant nonsense aren't much better. He wants attention, whether it's good or bad, and he gets it. If people stop talking about the bitch, then he will go away. Simple as.

[Spud]

Mods,

Any chance of closing this thread?

why!?!?

<sigh>

so much for freedom of speech eh.

Hello young man,

The reason for my request to have the thread closed down is not a point of "freedom of speech" - in fact there are indeed many points contained within this thread I feel very strongly about but have chosen not to make a comment on because when religion, race is brought into things then regardless of how you put your point across there is always someone you are going to offend.

In addition when discussing race and religion I always find it astounding how "the race card" is only allowed to be used one way - what I mean by that is that you can be accused of being racist but others twist it by stating only using my freedom of speech.

In many areas of religion and race there should be more use of the word "compromise" however it seems one side believe they are so completely correct - compromise is not a word in their dictionary.

[DEKKER87]

[/quote]

Hello young man,

The reason for my request to have the thread closed down is not a point of "freedom of speech" - in fact there are indeed many points contained within this thread I feel very strongly about but have chosen not to make a comment on because when religion, race is brought into things then regardless of how you put your point across there is always someone you are going to offend.

In addition when discussing race and religion I always find it astounding how "the race card" is only allowed to be used one way - what I mean by that is that you can be accused of being racist but others twist it by stating only using my freedom of speech.

In many areas of religion and race there should be more use of the word "compromise" however it seems one side believe they are so completely correct - compromise is not a word in their dictionary.[/quote]

fair comments...tho i don't believe that important things should not be said because of the threat of causing offence...for instance i don't care if some religion says women should be kept under wraps...that isn't right and western women fought for 100's of years for the freedoms they enjoy....i'm not about to let any half-witted dim muslim / christian/ naive 'leftist' / whatever make any argument that women are any less than men...

[Spud]

My final point to you is - would you care to comment on the many other boxing issues the forum has to offer??

[Spud]

My final point to you is - would you care to comment on the many other boxing issues the forum has to offer??

Yeah, like the myriad promotional puzzlement threads or the ones about boxing politics. Don't bring off-topic nonsense onto the British 'issues what surround boxing' Forum.

Nice try on this and the other thread.

[DEKKER87]

My final point to you is - would you care to comment on the many other boxing issues the forum has to offer??

indeed...if i wanted coherent political discourse i wouldnt have registered on a boxing forum eh...

just saddened by Small really....i feel sorry for him...he's clearly messed up, lonely and simply lookin for approval and the islamist jackals have latched onto him...

so ANYway whose the man to beat some sense into him? Rhodes?

howabout a one off calzaghe comeback at SM? with his charity work for help for heroes that would be quite interesting....

[doctor]

And so where was The US and the so called allies when Argentina Attacked the Falklands?

the US were obliged to offer us supply lines under the NATO agreement (which they did) and also forced Chile to allow us to use landing strips from which to launch attacks on Argie airbases on the mainland.

Your obviously ill-informed judging from your third rate jargon.

i agree that the taliban need to be removed

like saddam needed to be removed.

but allot of the times it isnt even the taliban who NATO ends up fighting its the tribals in the rural areas

the two are interchangable.

'i'm sure your unaware that the generals higher up have stated they would rather hold talks with the taliban'

patronising prick….what you’re talking about is Petraeus’s strategy that worked out quite well in Iraq with the Sunni awakening councils…I’ve no problem in talking to them…you seem to want us to merely up and leave and allow the talibs to slaughter those who believe in freedom.

'8 years of fighting has only seemed to strengthen the resistance'

What planet are you on?? What a ridiculous statement. There is no ‘resistance’ there are terrorist fascists trying to impose their 6th century paradigm on defenceless afghans. And ‘useful idiots’ like yourself who seem to think that global geo-politics is a sixth form


'The MOD has even stated that sometimes they dont recognise the enemy who there fighting they end up fighting warlords,druglords,tribesmen, etc etc'

Oh well…kill em all then.

'Salman rushdie was a british citizen and the ppl protesting him england were all british citizens but by your flawed logic because there muslims and they worship a ''pedophile prophet'' there removed the right to express there views'

No you effing numpty….it’s because they were threatening him with death….Khomeni pronounced a fatwah against him and he’s lived under full time police protection for years.

'If people don’t like the freedoms this country offers then they are welcome to move to Saudi or Egypt or Syria and see how they fare there.'

lets be perfectly blunt here – these muslim protestors are Islamic fundamentalists….they don’t care about afghans or Iraqis….they care about the promotion of wahabi / salafist islam in this country and across the west…and they’ve got weakminded people like yourself blagged into believing that bombs are goin off on underground trains and buses because of western crusades against islam. They’re not. They’re goin off because impressionable young muslims are being brainwashed by elderly conservative muslim sheikhs into blowing themselves to bits.

That’s all.

And rather than point at that and say that’s a product of evil you point at our own forces who, regardless of civilian casualties, are there to make the lives of the local people better not worse.

But don’t let the facts get in the way of a angst-ridden self-hating and racist rant about western forces actions eh.

as already stated your ill-informed and above anything else a major idiot ''saddam hussain'' we invaded iraq on false pretext iraq was a ruled by a secularist bathist ragime so any beliefs you have about this being a war against islamism is rubbished by the mere fact that iraq was never under any satanic islamist ruler ship there were worse tyrants then saddam hussain that needed to be overthrown unless you really think they went after him because he was such a bad person to the iraqi ppl.

lets take things into prespective the only military participation the US had in the conflict was providing Short range sidewinder missiles to subsonic harrier fighter jets , they didnt do anything else other then that, the Royal navy didnt even have proper radar coverage no awacs were provided who knows how many lives could have been saved had the US provided the navy with AWACs.

patronising prick….what you’re talking about is Petraeus’s strategy that worked out quite well in Iraq with the Sunni awakening councils…I’ve no problem in talking to them…you seem to want us to merely up and leave and allow the talibs to slaughter those who believe in freedom.

i'm not talking about petraeus i'm talking about leading figures in the army who have given up on beating the taliban via military means,
looks like your about to get taught a little lesson on facts, something you should pay close attention to rather then the trivial hate
[b]We'll have to talk to the Taliban', says head of British Army in major policy shift[/b]
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article ... l?ITO=1490
http://www.thisislondon.co.uk/standard/ ... r-unwin.do
''The second military figure is General Sir David Richards, new British Chief of the Defence Staff and former commander of US and Nato forces in Afghanistan. Richards is strongly in favour of opening negotiations with the Taliban as soon as possible and does not believe a military victory is possible.''
This is streight from the cows mouth the biggest military figure in the UK knows there is no military solution to this conflict

the two are interchangable.

No they are not i'm afraid the tribes people live by a code of law and they'v been living by this law for centuries that they'll be never subdued by any occupation force the taliban on the other hand are a totally different affair they are driven by an ideological view which is backward, Once more your uneducated in these matters and out of your depth.
listen fella freedom of speech was protected during the protests against salman rushdie if it wasnt his books would have never been published. he was given a death sentence by an ayotllah living in Iran lol how many muslims cleric's in england passed a fatwa against him? the rest of your argument is pretty much senseless and mindless so i don't have the inclination to divulge into it.

[hurlock]

Nothing like ali :!:

Ali was jailed as a world champ, smalls a chump who's only been barred.
Ali was against his race being treated as second class citizens, not some taliban suicide murderers who have killed millions in the name of god.

To answer the question would i watch small, it would be for all the wrong reasons. to see who he brings with this new found notoriety & what security measures get put in place to accomodate, like jeff thomas stated earlier, only his entrances were worth witnessing.

[lacollier883]

My small opinion on this.

ANTONY SMALL = PRICK

[whicker]

Ali was against his race being treated as second class citizens, not some taliban suicide murderers who have killed millions in the name of god.
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Ali was also a member of the "Nation of Islam" , an group who, at times, certainly expressed extremist views.

[hurlock]

Ali was against his race being treated as second class citizens, not some taliban suicide murderers who have killed millions in the name of god.
.

Ali was also a member of the "Nation of Islam" , an group who, at times, certainly expressed extremist views.

elijah mohammad it was black power & they needed to fight as there race had none agree??

later on in life ali embraced the true religion which is peace loving believe it or not, bit like that geezer malcom x.

[tonyevs]

Ali was against his race being treated as second class citizens, not some taliban suicide murderers who have killed millions in the name of god.
.

Ali was also a member of the "Nation of Islam" , an group who, at times, certainly expressed extremist views.

Ali was also as big a prick as Small is.

Lets hope Small can change his views and better himself as Ali later did. Thing is Small is too thick to realise that the young Ali was a million miles apart from the latter much loved Ali.

[funso banjo baby]

i havent read any of these comments...the usual sh*t.

just to reiterate....

the wars in Iraq and Afghanistan are totally wrong

[hurlock]

i havent read any of these comments...the usual sh*t.

just to reiterate....

the wars in Iraq and Afghanistan are totally wrong

all war's are wrong ;;-)

[J]

war huh? what is good for?

absolutely nothin

[whicker]

i havent read any of these comments...the usual sh*t.

just to reiterate....

the wars in Iraq and Afghanistan are totally wrong

This is the pradox of it all.

A lot of people will agree that the wars are wrong, and without question the many deaths of innocents are also wrong.

But Small is pilloried for expressing those views (albeit in a thoughtlessly unsubtle way.)

[gobbles]

I wonder what Small's views are on stoning women to death for alleged adultery? Common practice under the taliban, but not done in Vietnam where Ali refused to fight.

[stujones]

I think Ian is spot on with the question "would I want to watch small" - his actions here hasn't affected my judgement on him as a boxer. I would still watch him, still hope he gets beat.

We all (I guess) paid to watch a convicted rapist box in the 90's.

I think he will sell more tickets now.... all publicity is good publicity and all that.

[dondada]

I think Ian is spot on with the question "would I want to watch small" - his actions here hasn't affected my judgement on him as a boxer. I would still watch him, still hope he gets beat.

We all (I guess) paid to watch a convicted rapist box in the 90's.

I think he will sell more tickets now.... all publicity is good publicity and all that.

That was exactly my point, Stu. Twice as many people would watch - the vast majority hoping he'd be 'bombed back to the Stone Age'.