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I think people on here need to show a bit more respect for Briggs, He obviously has some issues to deal with in regards to his condition. The guy has been a true Warrior in his career and it seems everyone on here is to worried about the $50 they spent on the payperview and dont give a Rats arse about his Health.

I can tell you I was 2-3 metres away from Briggs, His eyes looked bad and he was in no condition to continue.
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Agree with you totally Ben in regards to Briggsy's health. I have concerns for him now especially the backlash he will continue to cop and what effect it will have on him mentally. Pat Russell was just on 9 News and he was clear that Briggsy in no condition to continue....some will argue he was in no condition to start!!
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Totally agree..... Brigss is not the type of guy who would throw a fight

hope he is ok

But I still have the shits with Billy Hussein WTF was he doing - he must have known that Briggs was in no shape to face Green
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The Skull wrote:Totally agree..... Brigss is not the type of guy who would throw a fight

hope he is ok

But I still have the shits with Billy Hussein WTF was he doing - he must have known that Briggs was in no shape to face Green

Stop blaming Billy, if Briggs was gonna step into the ring no matter what (which is the impression i get), then the best Hussien could have done is prepare him to the best of his ability under his watch. If you have an issue it should be with the people who sanctioned the fight, not with Billy Hussien.
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Maybe we should have a National Authority with teeth.

It could be run through the AIS.
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I'm eagerly anticipating Briggsy's side of things. Because while he looked unfit and a bit podgy, from the tv screen it really looked like a dive. I honestly want to believe that something else happened (with respect to his health) because there was no way that from everything Briggs has shown in his career, his commentating, his interviews, his book and his time on the contender - is that he's not the sort of person to take a dive. He was one of my favourite fighters of all-time and it's heart breaking to see that happen - and that's whether it was a dive or a legitimate TKO.

If it was legitimate then I have a few questions:

1. What was the reason his trainers allowed him in the ring? Greed, cash, being "yes" men or just not thinking it being their place to say? I'm sure Paul then was too stubborn/proud to not fight?
2. Regardless of whether this fight should have been made by Green initially, that's another discussion and has been done - Was he then told of the severity of Brigg's condition? If so, which is another I hope not, did he allow it to continue?

If it was legitimate TKO then I wish Briggs a speedy recovery and hope he gets his shit back together.
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One thing I've been thinking is - if it was a fix, surely Briggs would have made it look more convincing. It was a jab FFS!

I honestly believe Briggs should not have been in the ring and hope he doesn't fight again. I feel really sorry for the guy and hope his health is ok.
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jezzamundo wrote:One thing I've been thinking is - if it was a fix, surely Briggs would have made it look more convincing. It was a jab FFS!

I honestly believe Briggs should not have been in the ring and hope he doesn't fight again. I feel really sorry for the guy and hope his health is ok.

I think you've summed up how many, including myself are feeling about this situation atm, well said mate
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Tinnie wrote:
jezzamundo wrote:One thing I've been thinking is - if it was a fix, surely Briggs would have made it look more convincing. It was a jab FFS!

I honestly believe Briggs should not have been in the ring and hope he doesn't fight again. I feel really sorry for the guy and hope his health is ok.

I think you've summed up how many, including myself are feeling about this situation atm, well said mate
x3 i dont think anyone would dive on a jab especially not the first punch of the fight
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as i said in the current scene does anyone remember tyson v seldon if my memory is any good it was a very similar knock out did seldon throw the fight?
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seldon aint no Briggs. good to see some rallyying support for briggs. certainly it was weird-but the punch did make some contact,similar in degree to the jones blow just a different place buut IMO an equally bad place to be hiit. the top of the head. anyone who says it was to the toughest part of the skull is BLIND or stupid.
just the way he went down-got hit,initial reaction was to move his hands to the area he just got hit then he went down. i duunno know. iif people close to the action say he was unfit then they are better to judge than i. hope he is allright.

missed what Fenech and Johnny Lewis had to say about the whole thiing. Hope Fenech diidnt go iinto instant "Green iis a joke mode"for personal revenge reasons. sure J.Lewis would have had an unbiased opinion on the matter.
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obviously this fight shouldnt have happened in hindsight but briggs was talking the talk and passed the medicals so i see no reason why it couldnt go ahead, getting hit on the top of the head while leaning forward where does your head go. no way a thrown fight,if he passed all requirements then the only thing paul briggs can be blamed for is not preparing well enough(the fight had been rumored for a very long time)
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Even GREEN straight after the "fight" called BRIGGS every name under the sun and didnt give a rats about BRIGG's condition Why... because like 99% of the people either at the event or watching the PPV somewhere thought BRIGGS had taken a dive!!! Why was there a massive betting plunge on a first round KO on the day of the event?? Surely a boxer as accomplished as Briggs could absorb a short jab glancing off the top of his head?? Why did the event get moved from Sydney to Perth at the last minute?? (To my knowlege we only got the views of GREEN and BRIGGS and not the officials that made the decision) I think people are entitled to feel cheated for paying money to see what was promoted as a ligitimate fight but then find out that it may not be the case!!

That said ofcourse if BRIGGS does have mental and or medical issues it was certainly the case before he stepped into the ring last night....so who is responsible for allowing him to step through those ropes??? Obviosly there were a number of people trying to stop him that got ignored...It is a sad indictment on boxing and i was shocked to see how much BRIGGS had aged during his glory years and absolute wars against adamak to when he took his robe off last night...you would swear danny was at least 5 years younger than him. Briggs was a great fighter in his day and I really hope someone is looking out for him he deserved better than for being remembered for what happened last night!!! but i fear that will be the legacy he will leave now....
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Referring to Briggs as CANINE & not DOG in post fight speech is a dead giveaway it was scripted for 3rd or 4th round stoppage on towel & not the way it panned out. :P
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AntonS wrote:Referring to Briggs as CANINE & not DOG in post fight speech is a dead giveaway it was scripted for 3rd or 4th round stoppage on towel & not the way it panned out. :P
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I would love nothing more than to believe what happened was legit, not the punch, but maybe and this might sound terrible but briggs was not ready....he built a career out of being as tough as nails, and to see a bloke go out a loser and have the crowd boo and throw beer at you would be a terrible way to go out and should never have been his exit from the sport. I hope everything go's well still for him in his media career on the condition that he didn't throw the fight.

I'm still shocked :oo
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I see where you're coming from big fella and I do hope Briggs is alright but the fact is if Briggs had such major issues he shouldn't have put himself in the position for this to happen.
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You all have a valid point, I was at Green V RJJ in Syd and thought that this was a set up, but after watching the you tube footage Green clocked him with a massive right hand..
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Its good to see some sympathetic and knowledgable posts on here regarding Briggs compared to the condemation and 'he dived' tosh that I have read elsewhere. Hvaing followed Briggs for years I dont for a minute believe he would take a dive, and certainly noone would dive after basically the first punch of the fight. Briggs did take a punch, which was in the forehead area and Green glove then glanced over his head. People who know boxing will know that punches to the top of the head area like this can have an effect upon a fighter which seems to outweigh the visible force of the punch taken. Add to this the fact that Briggs obviously has some serious health issues, then this was an accident/farce waiting to happen from the begining!.
Why are people so surprised by this when it is generally well known that Briggs retired because of health problems!??.
These sort of problems do not go away. I think Paul convinced himself that he was ok in the same way that so many fighters before and after him have and will, in these situations it is the responsibility of the people around the fighter in question to save the man from himself.
Greens reaction to the result was sickening, to call Paul a dog is unforgivable. Why did Danny not fight Paul a 4 or 5 years ago??? theres nodoubt paul wanted the fight. Ive heard rumours that Green was aware of the problems Paul was having, and these arent just the problems that caused him to retire 3 years back but problems in the run up to the fight such as having trouble finding his car and forgetting the gym where he was training???? whether this is true or not Green certainly was aware that Paul was having his first fight in almost 4 years after retiring with health problems!!! so he really should be careful who he calls a dog!. I feel very strongly about this. Would the 'fans' who are attacking Paul now feel better if he had managed to last a few rounds, taken a beating and perhaps suffered serious injury or death as a result? becausee I think the only good thing to come out of this tragic farce is the fact that it was over so quick and that it didnt end in a fatality. MRI scans may show no injury but often brain damage does not show up physically, at least in the early stages... Paul has been showing all the symptoms of serious brain injury and he needs to be shown some respect and understanding. Those who encouraged and allowed this fight to go on are the real culprits here, not Paul Briggs.
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^^ nice post. Hard to disagree with the sentiment
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agreed. great post. i do hope briggs is ok.after seeing the downhhill slide jeff harding took near the end of his career and certainly after i hope that briggs doesnt follow suit(though perhaps this fight is a reflection of that anyway) and after this 'event" and the publiic backlash whiich some of is being directed at him i really really hope this is not a catalyst for something even worse(depression,druugs,alcohol,suicide.) hope he does have people around him that really care for him.
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briggs was a warrior. look at those fights with adamek. ppl involved in making the fight, from both sides, should have known better than to put briggs in last week's fight. briggs obviously wanted his $200,000 but once the bell went - or before that - he obviously realised he was in no condition mentally and physically compete with this razor sharp version of danny green. i believe he just sort of shut down, caved in.

green v briggs on PPV should have been made 5 years ago, FFS, when it would have been a PPV worthy war.

green obviously wanted to easily batter an old name, but it's blown up in everyone's face, one of the most terrible boxing farces in any country, in recent memory.
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