Classic American West Coast Boxing

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kikibalt wrote:Boxing Contracts, etc etc

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Tony's contract vs Robin Blake

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Frankie's contract vs Pat Duran, on Tony/Blake card

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A 11977 letter from my late friend Bill Field
Like John Houseman said in that commercial years ago Tony and Robin ''made there money the old fashioned way, they earned it'' that day they did, don't know if either was ever the same again. :witzend:
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I being shredding paper (bank statements, billing statements, etc etc) for days now, my wife saves every piece of paper for years, she had plastic bags in every nook and cranny full of paper. She gets piss when I want to shred the papers, well, I did it behind her back while she was at work, and I filled 7-33 gallon trash bags, found billing statements from as far back 2000, I also found the boxing contracts I posted.
I call Connie "The Bag Lady"
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THEHAMMER321 wrote: Like John Houseman said in that commercial years ago Tony and Robin ''made there money the old fashioned way, they earned it'' that day they did, don't know if either was ever the same again. :witzend:
I believe that fight took more out of Blake then it Tony, I really believe Blake was ruin in that fight..
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Hey Tom, do you remember this photo?

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kikibalt wrote:I being shredding paper (bank statements, billing statements, etc etc) for days now, my wife saves every piece of paper for years, she had plastic bags in every nook and cranny full of paper. She gets piss when I want to shred the papers, well, I did it behind her back while she was at work, and I filled 7-33 gallon trash bags, found billing statements from as far back 2000, I also found the boxing contracts I posted.
I call Connie "The Bag Lady"
I hope you didn't shred these documents!!!

I need to get a shredder. I have so much paper junk that I need to get rid of. :witzend:

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Randyman wrote:
kikibalt wrote:I being shredding paper (bank statements, billing statements, etc etc) for days now, my wife saves every piece of paper for years, she had plastic bags in every nook and cranny full of paper. She gets piss when I want to shred the papers, well, I did it behind her back while she was at work, and I filled 7-33 gallon trash bags, found billing statements from as far back 2000, I also found the boxing contracts I posted.
I call Connie "The Bag Lady"
I hope you didn't shred these documents!!!

I need to get a shredder. I have so much paper junk that I need to get rid of. :witzend:

Randy
Didn't shred them, Randy, I had being looking for them for some time now and I'm sure glad I found them.

Great Jess Hernandez article you posted, I used to love reading him.....
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kikibalt wrote:Boxing Contracts, etc etc

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Tony's contract vs Robin Blake

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Frankie's contract vs Pat Duran, on Tony/Blake card

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A 1977 letter from my late friend Bill Field

Great stuff, Frank!
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Adjusting Floyd Mayweather's Ring Name . . .


In light of the recent Pac Man-Mayweather negotiations, I believe the following ring names would make more sense:

Instead of "Pretty Boy", how about "Pretty Scared"?
Or instead of Floyd "Money" Mayweather, maybe Floyd "For No Amount of Money" Mayweather??

I'm about done with boxing as it is today. I shall always love what it once was, that's why I come here.
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Make mine over easy! Hammer see how us limmeys can slip into American when we want to
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The undermatched Amir Khan looks down to the winner of the world lightweight title clash between ageing Mexican Juan Manuel Marquez and Houston's beatable Juan Diaz for his next opponent on December 11 in the States, where Khan trains. Marquez and Diaz square up in Las Vegas at the end of the month.
Khan, the WBA light-welterweight champion, labels himself "a born fighter" and "in my prime" yet he conveniently and cynically overlooks the fact that he is not fighting a light-welter in December and that Diaz was licked by New York's light-hitting Paulie Malignaggi quite recently, who in turn was pounded by Khan in 11 rounds in Madison Sqaure Garden in May. Khan and his team really insult the game and its followers in December. The last opponent he bandied about was another small man in Cuba's Joel Casamayor, although the match failed to materialise. There just has to be a serious problem with Khan's chin.
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Frankie's 1985 Nevada State boxing license

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The announcement this morning that Amir Khan is to fight the winner of the Juan Manuel Marquez-Juan Diaz return clash at lightweight later this month in Las Vegas came as a blow to those still waiting for the Bolton boy to risk his chin - to risk anything - in the two-year wake of his sub-one minute destruction at the hands of Breidis Prescott in Manchester in 2008. We all know the story: Khan went down twice, heavily, and looked so fragile that one wondered how he would ever recover. He recovered remarkably well, of course, brought back quickly and shrewdly with morale-boosting wins over Oisin Fagan and Marco Antonio Barrera, before trouncing Andreas Kotelnik for the WBA light-welterweight title and blowing away Dmitiry Salita in his first defence, although none of the four men were punchers like Prescott, who somewhat infuriatingly appeared on the same bill as Khan's 76-second dismissal of Salita. If only it were Khan outboxing the rangy Colombian that night and not Kevin Mitchell.
Then came Khan's decision to move to the States at a time when British promoter, F rank Warren, was lining him up here with Argentine puncher Marcos Maidana, although the thought of his competition in the States largely excited and diverted fans. Khan is steered out there, for all intents and purposes, by trainer Freddie Roach, an ex-fighter with Parkinson's Disease who believes that the punches he took late in his career caused his condition. Roach told Mike Tyson to retire after his surprise loss to Danny Williams and 'knows' when a fighter is through and when a fighter is vulnerable.
Roach was brought in to buoy and improve Khan after the Prescott disaster and would have had his say on Khan's comeback opponents, although Mr Warren and his matchmaker Dean Powell played the real blinders, particularly in their inspired choices of the fading but still credible Barrera and the technically adept but light-hitting Kotelnik. Indeed, Khan has fought only once entirely for Roach: an 11-round turkey-shoot against the brave but non-punching Paulie Malignaggi in defence of his world title a couple of months ago in New York. As Khan showed in his comeback, he looks a million dollars against men who cannot hurt him.
Now comes the problem. Roach continues the cotton-wool treatment with today's downbeat announcement of Marquez or Diaz next up for Khan. The fleshy Diaz, dubbed "Baby Bull", was well-beaten by Malignaggi last December in Houston, on a night when Diaz came in at well under the light-welterweight limit (and to remind you, Diaz and Marquez go head to head at lightweight), and he is the bookies' favourite to topple the 36-year-old Marquez, who turned pro down at featherweight when Khan was all of six. Roach knows more than anyone that a good big 'un always beats a good little 'un. It was his move from super-featherweight to lightweight in his boxing days that saw him copping all those late head shots from the likes of Greg "Mutt" Haugen and Hector Camacho.
Roach must have a very good reason for looking down after he hooted about his man unifying the light-welterweight division post-Malignaggi. Khan is a huge light-welterweight, a 23-year-old future welterweight, with masses of competition in his division, so why the pursuit of lightweights? For now he – and we - makes do with either Marquez or Diaz, but you wonder what the next year brings, or the year after that? We sit, we wait, grow a little older, grow a little wiser.
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bennie wrote:The announcement this morning that Amir Khan is to fight the winner of the Juan Manuel Marquez-Juan Diaz return clash at lightweight later this month in Las Vegas came as a blow to those still waiting for the Bolton boy to risk his chin - to risk anything - in the two-year wake of his sub-one minute destruction at the hands of Breidis Prescott in Manchester in 2008. We all know the story: Khan went down twice, heavily, and looked so fragile that one wondered how he would ever recover. He recovered remarkably well, of course, brought back quickly and shrewdly with morale-boosting wins over Oisin Fagan and Marco Antonio Barrera, before trouncing Andreas Kotelnik for the WBA light-welterweight title and blowing away Dmitiry Salita in his first defence, although none of the four men were punchers like Prescott, who somewhat infuriatingly appeared on the same bill as Khan's 76-second dismissal of Salita. If only it were Khan outboxing the rangy Colombian that night and not Kevin Mitchell.
Then came Khan's decision to move to the States at a time when British promoter, F rank Warren, was lining him up here with Argentine puncher Marcos Maidana, although the thought of his competition in the States largely excited and diverted fans. Khan is steered out there, for all intents and purposes, by trainer Freddie Roach, an ex-fighter with Parkinson's Disease who believes that the punches he took late in his career caused his condition. Roach told Mike Tyson to retire after his surprise loss to Danny Williams and 'knows' when a fighter is through and when a fighter is vulnerable.
Roach was brought in to buoy and improve Khan after the Prescott disaster and would have had his say on Khan's comeback opponents, although Mr Warren and his matchmaker Dean Powell played the real blinders, particularly in their inspired choices of the fading but still credible Barrera and the technically adept but light-hitting Kotelnik. Indeed, Khan has fought only once entirely for Roach: an 11-round turkey-shoot against the brave but non-punching Paulie Malignaggi in defence of his world title a couple of months ago in New York. As Khan showed in his comeback, he looks a million dollars against men who cannot hurt him.
Now comes the problem. Roach continues the cotton-wool treatment with today's downbeat announcement of Marquez or Diaz next up for Khan. The fleshy Diaz, dubbed "Baby Bull", was well-beaten by Malignaggi last December in Houston, on a night when Diaz came in at well under the light-welterweight limit (and to remind you, Diaz and Marquez go head to head at lightweight), and he is the bookies' favourite to topple the 36-year-old Marquez, who turned pro down at featherweight when Khan was all of six. Roach knows more than anyone that a good big 'un always beats a good little 'un. It was his move from super-featherweight to lightweight in his boxing days that saw him copping all those late head shots from the likes of Greg "Mutt" Haugen and Hector Camacho.
Roach must have a very good reason for looking down after he hooted about his man unifying the light-welterweight division post-Malignaggi. Khan is a huge light-welterweight, a 23-year-old future welterweight, with masses of competition in his division, so why the pursuit of lightweights? For now he – and we - makes do with either Marquez or Diaz, but you wonder what the next year brings, or the year after that? We sit, we wait, grow a little older, grow a little wiser.
Thanks for that great post Bennie, I stole it and posted it in my blog, below is a link, check it out.

http://westcoastboxersofyearsgoneby.blogspot.com/
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telboy66 wrote:Make mine over easy! Hammer see how us limmeys can slip into American when we want to
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kikibalt wrote:
bennie wrote:The announcement this morning that Amir Khan is to fight the winner of the Juan Manuel Marquez-Juan Diaz return clash at lightweight later this month in Las Vegas came as a blow to those still waiting for the Bolton boy to risk his chin - to risk anything - in the two-year wake of his sub-one minute destruction at the hands of Breidis Prescott in Manchester in 2008. We all know the story: Khan went down twice, heavily, and looked so fragile that one wondered how he would ever recover. He recovered remarkably well, of course, brought back quickly and shrewdly with morale-boosting wins over Oisin Fagan and Marco Antonio Barrera, before trouncing Andreas Kotelnik for the WBA light-welterweight title and blowing away Dmitiry Salita in his first defence, although none of the four men were punchers like Prescott, who somewhat infuriatingly appeared on the same bill as Khan's 76-second dismissal of Salita. If only it were Khan outboxing the rangy Colombian that night and not Kevin Mitchell.
Then came Khan's decision to move to the States at a time when British promoter, F rank Warren, was lining him up here with Argentine puncher Marcos Maidana, although the thought of his competition in the States largely excited and diverted fans. Khan is steered out there, for all intents and purposes, by trainer Freddie Roach, an ex-fighter with Parkinson's Disease who believes that the punches he took late in his career caused his condition. Roach told Mike Tyson to retire after his surprise loss to Danny Williams and 'knows' when a fighter is through and when a fighter is vulnerable.
Roach was brought in to buoy and improve Khan after the Prescott disaster and would have had his say on Khan's comeback opponents, although Mr Warren and his matchmaker Dean Powell played the real blinders, particularly in their inspired choices of the fading but still credible Barrera and the technically adept but light-hitting Kotelnik. Indeed, Khan has fought only once entirely for Roach: an 11-round turkey-shoot against the brave but non-punching Paulie Malignaggi in defence of his world title a couple of months ago in New York. As Khan showed in his comeback, he looks a million dollars against men who cannot hurt him.
Now comes the problem. Roach continues the cotton-wool treatment with today's downbeat announcement of Marquez or Diaz next up for Khan. The fleshy Diaz, dubbed "Baby Bull", was well-beaten by Malignaggi last December in Houston, on a night when Diaz came in at well under the light-welterweight limit (and to remind you, Diaz and Marquez go head to head at lightweight), and he is the bookies' favourite to topple the 36-year-old Marquez, who turned pro down at featherweight when Khan was all of six. Roach knows more than anyone that a good big 'un always beats a good little 'un. It was his move from super-featherweight to lightweight in his boxing days that saw him copping all those late head shots from the likes of Greg "Mutt" Haugen and Hector Camacho.
Roach must have a very good reason for looking down after he hooted about his man unifying the light-welterweight division post-Malignaggi. Khan is a huge light-welterweight, a 23-year-old future welterweight, with masses of competition in his division, so why the pursuit of lightweights? For now he – and we - makes do with either Marquez or Diaz, but you wonder what the next year brings, or the year after that? We sit, we wait, grow a little older, grow a little wiser.
Thanks for that great post Bennie, I stole it and posted it in my blog, below is a link, check it out.

http://westcoastboxersofyearsgoneby.blogspot.com/
Thanks, Frankie. That's a great blog.
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Thanks Bennie
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Randyman wrote:Sean O'Grady
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Oh yes! I remember it well. That was Sean's first publicity photo. He had just turned 16. The kid wasn't even shaving yet.
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Kids on Marriage

How Does a Person Decide Who to Marry?

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- "You flip a nickel, and heads means you stay with him and tails means you try the next one." Kally, age 9

- "You got to find somebody who likes the same stuff. Like if you like sports, she should like it that you like sports, and she should keep the chips and dip coming." Allan, age 10

- "No person really decides before they grow up who they're going to marry. God decides it all way before, and you got to find out later who you're stuck with." Kirsten, age 10


Concerning the Proper Age to Get Married

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-"Twenty-three is the best age because you know the person FOREVER by then!" Cam, age 10

-"No age is good to get married at.... You got to be a fool to get married!" Freddie, age 6


How Can a Stranger Tell if Two People are Married?

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-"Married people usually look happy to talk to other people." Eddie, age 6

-"You might have to guess based on whether they seem to be yelling at the same kids." Derrick, age 8


What Do You Think Your Mom and Dad Have in Common?

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-"Both don't want no more kids." Lori, age 8


What Do Most People Do on a Date?

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-"Dates are for having fun, and people should use them to get to know each other. Even boys have something to say if you listen long enough." Lynnette, age 8

-"On the first date, they just tell each other lies, and that usually gets them interested enough to go for a second date." Martin, age 10


What the Children Would Do on a First Date That Was Turning Sour

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-"I'd run home and play dead. The next day I would call all the newspapers and make sure they wrote about me in all the dead columns." Craig, age 9


When is It Okay to Kiss Someone?

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-"When they're rich!" Pam, age 7

-"The law says you have to be eighteen, so I wouldn't want to mess with that." Curt, age 7

-"The rule goes like this: If you kiss someone, then you should marry them and have kids with them.... It's the right thing to do." Howard, age 8


The Great Debate: Is It Better to Be Single or Married?

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-"It's better for girls to be single but not for boys. Boys need somebody to clean up after them!" Anita, age 9

-"Single is better ... for the simple reason that I wouldn't want to change no diapers... Of course, if I did get married, I'd figure something out. I'd just phone my mother and have her come over for some coffee and diaper-changing." Kirsten, age 10


What Advice Do You Have for a Young Couple About to Be Married?

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-"The first thing I'd say to them is: 'Listen up, youngins ... I got something to say to you. Why in the heck do you wanna get married, anyway?'"Craig, age 9


What Promises Do a Man and a Woman Make When They Get Married?

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-"A man and a woman promise to go through sickness and illness and diseases together." Marlon, age 10


How to Make a Marriage Work

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-"Tell your wife that she looks pretty even if she looks like a truck." Ricky, age 7


How Would the World Be Different if People Didn't Get Married?

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-"There sure would be a lot of kids to explain, wouldn't there?" Kelvin, age 8 -

-"You can be sure of one thing - the boys would come chasing after us just the same as they do now!" Roberta, age 7
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"Pinche cabrone, you shredded all my paper" said the Bag Lady this morning.... :lol:
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kikibalt wrote:"Pinche cabrone, you shredded all my paper" said the Bag Lady this morning.... :lol:
Frank when my wife and I first started going together, one day I left the house when she was pissed at me, then here comes my clothes all over the lawn and she locked the door, so I just went downtown and ran into an older wiser dude that I knew and he said this '' they only do that if they love you '' he was right :lol:
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Robert Guerrero is plenty tough outside the ring too

He is returning to boxing July 31 after giving up the IBF super-featherweight title to help care for ailing wife, who has fully recovered.
Casey and Robert Guerrero

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Robert Guerrero, at dinner with his wife, Casey, is ready to return to the boxing ring after seeing his wife through her battle with leukemia. (Shelly O'Neal / July 20, 2010)

By Lance Pugmire

July 20, 2010

Define toughness. Punching a man in the face? Or braiding a girl's hair?

Robert Guerrero chose to braid hair, and no amount of brutal acts in the boxing ring, where Guerrero earns his living, could better measure a man's toughness.

Last winter, Guerrero, 27, was scheduled to leave his Gilroy home to train for his first International Boxing Federation super-featherweight title defense when Stanford Hospital doctors reinforced the gravity of his wife Casey's battle against leukemia.

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Casey Guerrero, 26, had survived three relapses of the cancerous disease between 2007 and 2009, when she was told a donor in Europe had provided a matching bone marrow sample.

"They didn't sugarcoat anything to me. They told me [Casey] had a 50-50 chance to make it or not with the transplant," Robert Guerrero said.

So Casey Guerrero underwent a Jan. 25 transplant operation. Robert Guerrero ached at seeing his wife and junior high sweetheart suffer through painful side effects of the transplant, and he couldn't get one concerned doctor's cautious post-recovery piece of advice out of his head: "Be ready to make arrangements."

In early February, he bowed out of the HBO-televised main event scheduled for March 27 against Michael Katsidis, surrendering his IBF title belt.

"It was going to be the fight of my career," Guerrero said. "I had to push it aside for the fight of my wife's life."

But the transplant seems to have worked. Casey is back home raising her family, she has been declared cancer-free and she plans to attend Robert's July 31 junior-welterweight fight on HBO pay-per-view against former world lightweight champion Joel Casamayor in Las Vegas.

"Her fight was not by her choice, but it was very inspiring. Our plan is still coming through. It's been a bumpy road, but we've walked through it," Robert Guerrero said.

During his wife's recovery, Guerrero stayed in Menlo Park, near the hospital, to be at Casey's bedside. And he regularly made the 50-mile trek home to Gilroy to help take care of the couple's children, Savannah, 5, and Robert Jr., 3, with the help of his parents and in-laws.

In the days after Guerrero pulled out of the March fight, he spent a day trying to comfort Casey through her most difficult hours. Her mouth and throat were so ravaged by radiation treatments she couldn't talk, and pain medication wasn't helping. Doctors told Guerrero his wife might not survive if infection set in.

"I had a 45-minute drive home that night, and as soon as I got on the freeway I just broke down in tears, all the way home," he said. "I cried myself to sleep. It was the worst feeling I've ever had, seeing someone I had loved since I was 14 years old like that."

He fed and bathed the children and took it upon himself to brush and style Savannah's hair like Casey used to. Braids and all.

"There were lots of times I was close to cracking, I was on a limb," Guerrero said.

For more peace of mind, he'd duck into his home gym in Gilroy and batter punching bags.

"It relieves a lot of stress," Guerrero said. "It's therapeutic."

Meanwhile, Casey battled the leukemia with resilience rooted in her faith and devotion to family. Even in her worst days, Robert said, Casey would raise from the hospital bed to walk and try to shower.

"I didn't want to think negative at all," she said.

Casey said Robert would watch a movie with her in the hospital, ask what the doctors had said and engage in the small talk of life like they did growing up in Gilroy, Robert the son of farm laborers who lived around the corner from Casey, the daughter of a roofing contractor.

"I was relieved and happy to have him stay. The things the doctors were telling me were straight up and scary. I wanted him by my side for it. But it was all his idea," she said.

After his wife recovered, Guerrero returned to the ring April 30 in Las Vegas and scored an eighth-round technical knockout.

If he beats Casamayor, it's likely Guerrero (26-1-1, 18 KOs) will emerge as a central player at 140 pounds, boxing's deepest talent pool.

"He can go into this next chapter with a clear mind. … He gave up his title to care for his wife, and that says a lot. Robert could've just taken the payday [in March]. I know he could've used the money. He didn't do that," said Guerrero's promoter, Richard Schaefer.

"That shows you the character of this man, how, with the right sense of values, you can take on these unexpected things in life and come out better."

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THEHAMMER321 wrote:
kikibalt wrote:"Pinche cabrone, you shredded all my paper" said the Bag Lady this morning.... :lol:
Frank when my wife and I first started going together, one day I left the house when she was pissed at me, then here comes my clothes all over the lawn and she locked the door, so I just went downtown and ran into an older wiser dude that I knew and he said this '' they only do that if they love you '' he was right :lol:
Wise old man he was...... :TU:
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THEHAMMER321 wrote:
kikibalt wrote:"Pinche cabrone, you shredded all my paper" said the Bag Lady this morning.... :lol:
Frank when my wife and I first started going together, one day I left the house when she was pissed at me, then here comes my clothes all over the lawn and she locked the door, so I just went downtown and ran into an older wiser dude that I knew and he said this '' they only do that if they love you '' he was right :lol:
I know what "Pinche cabrone" translates from Spanish. If Hammer's old dude is correct, I guess that means Connie loves you A LOT. :lol: :lol:
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So, the day after the night before, what do we think of young Amir Khan? The once-beaten Bolton boy said after his recent win over feather-fisted Paul Malignaggi in the States he wants the big names in the light-welterweight division but then came yesterday's confirmation that he fights the winner of Juan Manuel Marquez against Juan Diaz on July 31 in Las Vegas, two leading lightweights. Khan faces one or the other on December 11, probably in the States.
Khan's critics, and a statue has never been raised to a critic, tell you he is still running away, still protecting his chin. His supporters tell you the 23-year-old is still building up to the big light-welterweight showdowns with Marcos Maidana, Tim Bradley or Devon Alexander, and Khan certainly enjoys the kind of backing most fighters can only imagine.
His loss to Breidis Prescott a couple of years ago in Manchester, inside a minute, saw his Cuban trainer sacked on the spot, to be replaced by the celebrated Freddie Roach, nurtured as a young trainer by Eddie Futch, he of the "nobody will forget what you did tonight" line, and when Marcos Maidana, a huge-punching Argentine was lined up to challenge Khan, the fighter jumped ship and joined Roach permanently in his Hollywood gym in Los Angeles, where Oscar De La Hoya snapped him up, a multi-millionaire ex-fighter expertly managed himself.
The decision to fight either Marquez or Diaz is clever, very clever. The stylish Marquez lacks natural power but went 12 rounds with Floyd Mayweather in his last outing, to lose widely on points, so if Khan were to stop him, and Marquez has never been stopped, it would make Khan look very good indeed, particularly as Manny Pacquiao twice really struggled with the Mexican.
As for Diaz, he goes by the nickname of "Baby Bull", a play on Tony Ayala's "Little Bull", but Diaz is no Ayala, arguably the biggest loss to the sport in its entire history. Ayala hunted down his opponents, pinning them in the corners and really hurting them. Diaz is aggressive but not a huge puncher - he wears down his opponents, not particularly successfully in recent fights. However, the Houston man holds a win over Michael Katsidis and immediately you sense another lightweight for Khan, on to a good thing in December all ways.
Over in the States, Khan doesn't give a damn what we think here, along with his backers, who are in it to make a profit. Are they cynical enough to continue protecting his chin for the rest of his career? They did with Patterson in the 1950s until Floyd finally broke away from Cus D'Amato and ran into Ali, Liston and the iron-jawed Jerry Quarry, twice each.
One of his supporters on the boxrec forum says: "…you try to get the matches to suit your boxer's style and you try to get matches at the time best suited to make the most possible money", which is shrewdly said, but matches to suit Khan's chin? His opponents since Prescott have all lacked a punch and now he lines up smaller men and gets away with it because those men have a 'name'. No doubt Katsidis will come next, or Joel Casamayor, two men who crack at lightweight but, a weight up, against a boiled-down welterweight – no.
Don't get me wrong. Khan came back magnificently from Prescott in September 2008, winning the WBA light-welterweight title less than a year later from Andreas Kotelnik and defending it with an emphatic 11-round stoppage of Malignaggi two months ago. He boxes brilliantly, with handspeed of the Patterson variety, and always will against those who cannot hurt him. A particularly fast starter, Khan will jump on the slow-starting Marquez, if it’s him, in December.
Nevertheless, until Khan fights someone his own size, someone his own size who can dig, or is that too much to ask of a world champion, he just bores me.
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Re: Classic American West Coast Boxing

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raylawpc wrote:
THEHAMMER321 wrote:
kikibalt wrote:"Pinche cabrone, you shredded all my paper" said the Bag Lady this morning.... :lol:
Frank when my wife and I first started going together, one day I left the house when she was pissed at me, then here comes my clothes all over the lawn and she locked the door, so I just went downtown and ran into an older wiser dude that I knew and he said this '' they only do that if they love you '' he was right :lol:
I know what "Pinche cabrone" translates from Spanish. If Hammer's old dude is correct, I guess that means Connie loves you A LOT. :lol: :lol:
Connie: "I don't think so"....LOL!!
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