Muhammad Ali Should Have At Least Seventeen Losses

[GranberryReturns]

Tunney Hunsacker
Doug Jones
Frazier 1
Frazier 2
Frazier 3
Rudi Lubbers
Joe Bugner
Ken Norton 1
Ken Norton 2
Ken Norton 3
Jimmy Young
Alfredo Evangelista
Earnie Shavers
Spinks 1
Spinks 2
Holmes

[iamasadlittleboy]

Tunney Hunsacker
Doug Jones
Rudi Lubbers
Joe Bugner
Earnie Shavers
Spinks 2


Could you enlighten me on those ones?

[BoxBuzz]

So what your saying is he should have kept fighting after the Berbick fight...maybe another dozen fights or so?

[GranberryReturns]

Tunney Hunsacker
Doug Jones
Rudi Lubbers
Joe Bugner
Earnie Shavers
Spinks 2


Could you enlighten me on those ones?

I forgot one

Chuvalo 2

[iamasadlittleboy]

...thats hardly enlightened me...

[wsbuf]

This can't be the original Granberry, even he has more sense.

[dempseyfire]

TROLL.

Please ban this clown, this isn't even funny.

[Woller]

There could be a case for disqualifying hi in the second fight against Liston.

(Not going to a neutral corner, not obeying the referees instruktions, hitting Liston after the knock down before being told to "Box on".)

Woller

[GranberryReturns]

TROLL.

Please ban this clown, this isn't even funny.

:(

[BoxBuzz]

TROLL.

Please ban this clown, this isn't even funny.

:(

Don't be dissapointed, granberry was a star attraction....no one can emulate the granner! So to come in and mock the unmockable is a difficult thing to do. He had a storm driven passion, demonstrated logic, (though pretzel at best), knowledge steeped in a sort of tortured anger, and a clear and vibrant presentation containing both a sense of mission and focus.

When gran was banned, they broke the mold. Though you could actually smell his mold even over the vast distances of the World Wide Web.

[bollox]

goold old Terap, he's been at it since 2002. At least he's persistent

[Darling]

goold old Terap, he's been at it since 2002. At least he's persistent

[klompton]

Tunney Hunsacker
Doug Jones
Frazier 1
Frazier 2
Frazier 3
Rudi Lubbers
Joe Bugner
Ken Norton 1
Ken Norton 2
Ken Norton 3
Jimmy Young
Alfredo Evangelista
Earnie Shavers
Spinks 1
Spinks 2
Holmes

I can see arguments for: Jones, Frazier 2, Norton 2, and 3, Jimmy Young, and Shavers. The others not including the official losses, seem a bit of a stretch.

[yancey]

TROLL.

Please ban this clown, this isn't even funny.

:(

Don't be dissapointed, granberry was a star attraction....no one can emulate the granner! So to come in and mock the unmockable is a difficult thing to do. He had a storm driven passion, demonstrated logic, (though pretzel at best), knowledge steeped in a sort of tortured anger, and a clear and vibrant presentation containing both a sense of mission and focus.

When gran was banned, they broke the mold. Though you could actually smell his mold even over the vast distances of the World Wide Web.

I thought Gran was on a vacation.

You mean he is forever banned???

Nooooooooo.

Bring back the Granner!

btw, is ThatOne still around? Haven't seen him post for a while.

[BoxBuzz]

He is no longer banned, but hasn't dropped by in some time.

[Robinson]

The real question is where is Collins?

[jezzamundo]

I actually think it is a decent post - if not to be serious but to raise an interesting point and start discussion.

My takes:
Tunney Hunsacker - Haven't seen it
Doug Jones - Close but clear to Ali
Frazier 1 - Yep, he lost it clearly
Frazier 2 - Haven't seen it
Frazier 3 - Uh, are you serious? I had Ali ahead on points, and it was a knockout FFS! Where's the controversy?
Rudi Lubbers - Haven't seen
Joe Bugner - Haven't seen
Ken Norton 1 - Another loss to Ali
Ken Norton 2 - Haven't seen
Ken Norton 3 - Haven't seen, but everything I've heard indicates robbery
Jimmy Young - Haven't seen
Alfredo Evangelista - Haven't seen
Earnie Shavers - Close fight, Ali was lucky to get the nod, though I didn't score it.
Spinks 1 - Another loss to Ali
Spinks 2 - Haven't seen
Holmes - Obviously a loss to Ali
Berbick - Final loss

[klompton]

Should you really have a "take" on this if you havent seen more than half of the fights in question...

[Robinson]

My take on the fights I have seen in this list.

Tunney Hunsacker - Haven't seen it Lets say he won it though W
Doug Jones - Close I would be close to say a draw, but Ali was dominant at times so lets say he wins W
Frazier 1 - Lost L
Frazier 2 - As much as I wanted it for Joe, Ali won it. W
Frazier 3 - Won. W
Rudi Lubbers - Boring, but ALI won. W
Joe Bugner - Which fight ? Ali won both however, Bugner did little. W
Ken Norton 1 - Lost. L
Ken Norton 2 - Close.. I would say this was a draw if memory serves. D
Ken Norton 3 - It was close, though Norton won. L
Jimmy Young -I had it 142-145 Young. Close. Lost
Alfredo Evangelista - Boring and lack lustre but Ali won. W
Earnie Shavers - Close, Ali rallied well late. I had Ali JUST ahead. W
Spinks 1 - Ali lost. L
Spinks 2 - Close, Ali JUST won. W
Holmes -LOst
Berbick - Lost


So what is that 9W-7L-1D

[Darling]

The real question is where is Collins?

[Goodnight, Irene]

The real question is where is Collins?

Here's a hint as to his whereabouts...

"Grinning like an idiot."

[Robinson]

You get him kicked GI ?

[Darling]

You get him kicked GI ?

Take no notice of Irene. What? You never did? Good man.

[Robinson]

I liked Collins. It sucks that he is no longer here.

[Goodnight, Irene]

I liked Collins. It sucks that he is no longer here.

As did I, actually. He changed quite drastically & swiftly some time back, though. BoxBuzz recently told me it's happened before with him. That, & a certain other incident make me wonder about his mental fragility (& that's not a veiled dig, but a genuine statement). Fear not, though --- he is back after an extended absence. He got himself kicked.