Are fighters and their mates posting good for the forum??

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whicker wrote:
Deserter wrote: After all, it's vital to remember that it's the 'absolute nobodies' who ultimately determine the fate of professional boxing through following boxers, attending shows etc. If they disappear, the sport dies.
I disagree, the number of "internet fans" are only a very small number of the total fans who watch boxing, and as such, their specific contribution is very limited. Of course, we like to think otherwise! :OhYes:
I'd guess a lot of internet fans watch boxing on streams, attend the occassional show in the "cheap" seats, and endlessly post opinions on boxing forums. Their actual monetary "value" to the boxing business is significantly less than a bloke who knows little about the sport, but on a one off treats himself and his girlfriend to a pair of £250 seats at a big event.
True. :cry:
Whicker, you're missing two important fundamentals that are true of virtually all businesses:
1) The cost of retaining a customer is far cheaper than winning a new customer i.e. in boxing terms, it makes a lot more sense for promoters to keep existing regular fans than to continually try and win new audiences. This is even more pertinent in today's increasingly fractured market. In this context their monetary value can be regarded as significant over the long-term (though again, it's surprising that promoters don't do more to encourage this group through 'loyalty clubs' and other value adds).
2) It's not simply about quantity - as I touched on in my first post, the 'hardcore' of any sector are also the most influential. Getting them on board means you're not just influencing them, you're positively influencing their set of friends. It's why companies around the world do product seeding with such groups and in marketing terms they're known as 'mavens' or 'influencers'. The reality is that the hardcore that frequent boxing forums are such influencers.
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Bomber 1 wrote:Listen I'll be honest, I think it's a double edged sword if Im being honest.. It's great to hear some fighters views but it can all add up, I mean fighters are the most egotistical people on the planet, They are usually moody especially when making weight and generally are quite boring people, I mean personally my life is groundhog day!! :D I see some of the banter that goes on and while I don't agree with much of it I also must say this, If you don't like it don't read it!! I read things I don't agree with all the time BUT hey that's peoples opinion and that's what a FORUM is all about.. I hope more pro's join the forum and give there views BUT I won't hold my breath when they hear something they don't like, I was told that's why David Haye stopped posting?? Like I said at the start I feel it's a double edged sword, While it can be great it can also be a proper wind up..

The ultimate question is it good for the site & forum.. Damn hell yes it is. If you've got a face to put to a name on here then it's gonna get people on here writing and giving there opinions, Ie Smith,Larry,Dilks,Dodson etc etc. Either way the forum is the winner without doubt. I personally hope the debates carry on and before you guys say it I have personally had my own banter and been leathered on other various sites however I'd like to think I've grown up a little and now take it all with a pinch of salt, Well after I've slapped her about for a bit anyway.. :D :TU: :D ...

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As they get bigger, do they seem to disappear?




Bomber, will you still post if you become a World Champ?
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carlbcfc wrote:As they get bigger, do they seem to disappear?




Bomber, will you still post if you become a World Champ?

Mate I'll post regarldess, Even though I do have the mrs next to me saying you on that thing again.. You sure there's no women on that site... :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:
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if i was world champ i wouldnt haha! id be on a steady slope of decline!!
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bynino wrote:if i was world champ i wouldnt haha! id be on a steady slope of decline!!
Devils dandruff? :OhYes:
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markp wrote:I think this is a good question and I'd like the forum to think before they answer.

F*ck off!

Listen kiddo, you're new around here, so i'll let you off.


But of you think i am going to start thinking before i post, then you are sorely mistaken.
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Hagler2002 wrote:I remember witnessing a certain forum member running down a street faster than Usain Bolt to try and catch up with a car Danny Williams had just got in :lol:
Yeah? well i remember exposing myself to Melanie Sykes in a pub in Manchester in 1998.

LOUL!!
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mickey1975 wrote:I have been thinking this for a while.


Whilst simultaneously hitting yourself over the head with a brick?
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MachoMan09 wrote:For what it's worth,
From you?


F*ck all, mate.
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Jeff Thomas wrote:Forums are generally negative places,

No they aren't!!!


oh, sh*t
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Spud wrote:Extremely good thread :TU: :TU:


Kiss of death, if ever i saw it.
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righthook wrote:boxers posting on sites is a privilege, and people should remember that before havin a go at boxers.

it is good for fans to find out what really goes on behind the scenes and what a boxers thoughts on different situations are.
imo its good of them to take time out there lives and provide fans with information and knowledge.

as for fans who know boxers posting messages, imo they have the same rite if not more to get involved in a debate.
a couple of reasons i believe this is because

if a fan knows a boxer and is friends outside of boxing, and hears some1 having a go at him on a forum, there gunna defend there friend, the same way any1 else would if you where on the street and some1 come over and had a go at some1 you knew. sure it might be a bit biased but what would you expect.

another reason and more important, is if you know boxers and boxing then you know how much boxers give up to do what they do, and the sacrifices they make,
friends of boxers also know what goes on behind the scenes, and certain information that sometimes people dont get to hear.

for an example i am a friend of tony bellew, iv watched him since he was a kid up to now. i have had debates in the past on other forums about why bellew hasnt fought no top names or why he hasnt fought a top 5 uk ranked fighter, now some people who dont know him, or the situation might ask the same question but as a friend i know that 7 out the top ten have refused to fight him, i have been in the gym when he has had a phone call saying so and so have said they dont want the fight, theres nothing more bellew would want than a top name, infact if you asked bellew would he fight chad dawson he would probably jump at the chance :lol: so i think it would be fair to say friends are in a much better position to make a comment than people who dont have all the information.

another example is smith simpson, allot of scousers are saying (and betting) on smith to win, some neutral people might think this is a little strange as simpson is proven class and is a good solid fighter, but any1 who knows and has seen smith fight/train knows how class he is, and knows he has more than a good chance of winning,

i dont think its a bad thing for friends of boxers posting, i would rather listen to what some1 has to say on a fighter they know allot about than some1 who knows nothing about both fighters but will go on and on when they have very little knowledge about the fighters.

I honestly don't think i will ever, in my life, have the patience to read through that load of gibberish.
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JUSCOOLNOMAN wrote:Good and bad.

I for one always enjoyed seeing a Boxrec fighter trump

good lord!
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Khaosai-Galaxy wrote:
Spud wrote:Extremely good thread :TU: :TU:


Kiss of death, if ever i saw it.
:lol: :lol: Good to see KG back out of the blue and back on form :bow:
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King Geedorah wrote:Boxers posting on a boxing forum?! Egads, the world has gone chaffing mental. I went onto a cookery forum and asked for some tips and professional chefs started giving me advice, what the fook do they know about knocking up some Dirk Benedict and a few rashers of prosciutto? I had to venture into their OT forum, where a nice chap with the avatar Jumpin' Jihadz gave me a lovely tip for some self-baking cakes. I just need a pile of anthrax, a green-bound copy of The Currant (must be about fruit cakes), an electrician's utilitybelt and a complete disregard for human life. Shame, I ran out of anthrax yesterday morning.
beautifully put :lol:
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Khaosai-Galaxy wrote:
MachoMan09 wrote:For what it's worth,
From you?


F*ck all, mate.
K-G

Have you ever watched the lightweight law firm drama - Boston Legal?

I'd say the character James Spader plays, Alan Shore, is just about as close as it gets to your Boxrec persona on screen.

Admittedly, his antics are not quite as salacious as yours but there is there is something quintessentially K-G about him.

Its the disdain I think.
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F*ck me - The Elitist Gang are out again - you have Mr Deserter, Mr Payne and their tramp KG coming out with all their clap trap!!! :TU: :lol:
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By definition I doubt its possible to have an elite gang. Its an oxymoron, which just to explain Spud, is not a spot cream for thickos.

I'm like the Chuck Norris of elitism. A one man army.

Kiss.Kiss.
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DavidPayne wrote:By definition I doubt its possible to have an elite gang. Its an oxymoron, which just to explain Spud, is not a spot cream for thickos.

I'm like the Chuck Norris of elitism. A one man army.

Kiss.Kiss.
:lol: :lol:
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I think so most of the time, you can get a great insight from some boxers and get inside info that you would never had got otherwise. Like the time El Maachi had a bet with Frank Maloney that he would beat his fighter and offered him a double or nothing bet on it. But other fighters can sometimes come on here trying to blow sunshine up their own you know whats fishing for compliments. You know things like lets have a poll "Who do you think is the best boxer in the country" and you only get one option to vote for or "Who thinks I really lost that fight, do you agree that I was robbed". That obviously is no good for the forum, go and find a mirror to pose into if you want to feel good about yourself. These guys are paying money to watch you fight, not to blow smoke up your you know what! :lol: My campaign to comeback at cruiserweight is still on the go by the way. I weighed in at 14st10 at Olivers the other day after a workout, I want to lose another 7lb or so before I approach the board and reapply for my license. My technique has shot through the roof, I have found being lighter has helped me loads and I have been working with a sports mind coach who has been helping me change the way I think in the ring and helped totally change the way I box. See you in September hopefully :box:
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demolitiondaley wrote:My campaign to comeback at cruiserweight is still on the go by the way. I weighed in at 14st10 at Olivers the other day after a workout, I want to lose another 7lb or so before I approach the board and reapply for my license. My technique has shot through the roof, I have found being lighter has helped me loads and I have been working with a sports mind coach who has been helping me change the way I think in the ring and helped totally change the way I box. See you in September hopefully :box:
Sounds very positive, good luck mate.
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the moment anyone says something along the lines of 'he knocked so and so down in the sparring' i tend to tune out.

Gym talk is pants.

and half the problem with Primo Fisting is his supporters who actually think hes a great prospect with skill...

he aint
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DavidPayne wrote:By definition I doubt its possible to have an elite gang. Its an oxymoron, which just to explain Spud, is not a spot cream for thickos.

I'm like the Chuck Norris of elitism. A one man army.

Kiss.Kiss.
He didn't say an elite gang. He said an elitist gang. We have one in this country, in the pejorative sense Spud undoubtedly intended.

They are called the Conservative Party.
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Ian 'Mr' McNeilly wrote:
DavidPayne wrote:By definition I doubt its possible to have an elite gang. Its an oxymoron, which just to explain Spud, is not a spot cream for thickos.

I'm like the Chuck Norris of elitism. A one man army.

Kiss.Kiss.
He didn't say an elite gang. He said an elitist gang. We have one in this country, in the pejorative sense Spud undoubtedly intended.

They are called the Conservative Party.
:lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:

F*ck off you stinking smelly smoggy ****

:lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:
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