Classic American West Coast Boxing

[THEHAMMER321]

I have to laugh, they got some new clown posting on boxers of the past forum ''granberry returns'' who's claims are even more ridiculous than the original granberry.

[kikibalt]

I have to laugh, they got some new clown posting on boxers of the past forum ''granberry returns'' who's claims are even more ridiculous than the original granberry.

It's not the same cat?

[THEHAMMER321]

I have to laugh, they got some new clown posting on boxers of the past forum ''granberry returns'' who's claims are even more ridiculous than the original granberry.

It's not the same cat?

It could be the same guy, I am not sure, some people will do anything for attention, he talks about Jimmy Young like he is one of the all time greats,I can remember my dad talking about Jimmy Young but it was totally opposite of what granberry said, like how he would stink up the place no matter who he was fighting one of the most boring heavyweights of all time.

[raylawpc]

I have to laugh, they got some new clown posting on boxers of the past forum ''granberry returns'' who's claims are even more ridiculous than the original granberry.

It's not the same cat?

It could be the same guy, I am not sure, some people will do anything for attention, he talks about Jimmy Young like he is one of the all time greats,I can remember my dad talking about Jimmy Young but it was totally opposite of what granberry said, like how he would stink up the place no matter who he was fighting one of the most boring heavyweights of all time.

Its not granberry. It's just some troll getting stirring the pot by posting outlandish statements as "Granberry Returns."

[kikibalt]

Junior Golden Gloves Finals
1964

I had Romulo Ventura fighting Andy “The Hawk” Price in the finals of the 1964 Junior golden Gloves at the Valley Garden Arena, Andy gets in the ring first, we now make our way to the ring, Romulo starts his climb up the stairs, he puts one leg over the bottom rope and he sees Andy shadow boxing and looking like a minuter Sugar Ray Robinson, Romluo turns around and looks me in the eye and tells me “I don't feel like fighting tonight after all”, I gave Romulo a shove into the ring and tell him “he looks pretty, but can he fight?”. Romulo fought that night and gave Andy a good scrap losing by decision.

[Panzerfaust]

Anyone got any info on this guy? Javier ''Baby Face'' Gutierrez?

Cheers Pf

[kikibalt]

Anyone got any info on this guy? Javier ''Baby Face'' Gutierrez?

Cheers Pf

I seen him fight many a times, A southpaw, very good fighter that came up in a very tough era, I have a photo of him, I'll find it and post it if you don't already have one, let me know.

[Panzerfaust]

If you could post the photo id be very gratefull Frank

[kikibalt]

If you could post the photo id be very gratefull Frank

I will, it's on a Knockout mangzine page.

[kikibalt]

[kikibalt]

Pacquiao to fight Margarito in November

By Kevin Iole, Yahoo! Sports

Manny Pacquiao will fight Antonio Margarito on Nov. 13 for a vacant super welterweight championship, either in Las Vegas if Margarito can get licensed or in Monterrey, Mexico, if he can’t, promoter Bob Arum said.

That ends any possibility of a match between Pacquiao and Floyd Mayweather Jr., the top two boxers in the world, for 2010.

Arum said he decided to choose Margarito instead of Miguel Cotto, whom Pacquiao stopped in the 12th round in November, because it would be perceived as a more competitive bout. The bout will be offered on HBO Pay-Per-View.

“Cotto was beaten and even with [Hall of Fame trainer] Emanuel Steward now with him, I don’t think people believe that it’s enough to make a difference and I’m not sure they would buy it as competitive,” Arum said by telephone from his vacation home in Los Angeles. “But putting aside the controversy about the wraps, the one thing you know for sure with a Margarito fight is that it will be a hell of a fight for however long it lasts.

“Margarito knows only one way to fight and that’s coming forward. They’re going to get in there and fight. That’s what people want to see.”

Margarito’s hand-wrap controversy is no minor matter, however. He was caught with a hardened substance in his knuckle pad prior to a Jan. 24, 2009, fight in California against Shane Mosley.

He was forced to re-wrap his hands and was knocked out in the ninth round by Mosley. In February 2009, he was suspended for a year by the California State Athletic Commission.

He fought once since the Mosley fight, winning a lackluster unanimous decision over Roberto Garcia.

He applied for a license in Nevada on July 9, but by a 4-1 vote, the Nevada Athletic Commission tabled the matter and told Margarito to return to California. Arum said Margarito will file paperwork with California on Monday.

If Nevada grants Margarito a license, Arum said the fight would be in Las Vegas at the MGM Grand Garden Arena. If not, it is all but certain to wind up at a 22,000-seat arena in Monterrey, Mexico, though a group from Abu Dhabi, United Arab Emirates, is also bidding for the fight.

Skip Avansino, a member of the Nevada commission, said he thinks California regulators should consider it first, even though Margarito doesn’t plan to fight there. The California commission knows the matter best, Avansino said.

Avansino wasn’t willing to speculate what would occur if California were to decline taking up his request, given he doesn’t have a fight planned in the state.

“He certainly deserves a decision,” Avansino said. “I don’t know what procedures California will consider in connection with his reapplication. I would think that they would consider his application appropriately, just as we would, but I would want to wait until I see what California decides.”

Avansino said he wouldn’t be swayed by the huge economic impact the fight would have upon the depressed Las Vegas economy.

Pacquiao is a huge draw in Las Vegas and is one of the few boxers who attracts high-rolling Asian gamblers, who play $25,000-a-hand blackjack as well as baccarat. Las Vegas casinos had their best night in two years Nov. 14, 2009, when Pacquiao fought Cotto, because of the large influx of high-rollers who flooded Las Vegas, according to analysis by the Nevada Gaming Commission.

“I’m mindful of the economic conditions in the state of Nevada and I understand them well,” Avansino said. “I have every interest to improve and help improve the economy in this state. But as a commission, my responsibility is to protect the health and safety of those who compete in our state and to uphold the integrity of the sport. That’s my primary responsibility.”

The match would be for the World Boxing Council super welterweight championship. If Pacquiao wins it, it would be either the seventh or eighth division in which he has held a title, depending upon how it is calculated.

He has won sanctioning body titles at 112, 122, 130, 135, 140 and 147 pounds. At 126 pounds, he beat Marco Antonio Barrera, who was the linear champion. But Barrera had surrendered all of his sanctioning body titles by the time he fought Pacquiao, though he had not been beaten.

Kevin Iole covers boxing and mixed martial arts for Yahoo! Sports. Send Kevin a question or comment for potential use in a future column or webcast.

[bennie]

It's not the same cat?

It could be the same guy, I am not sure, some people will do anything for attention, he talks about Jimmy Young like he is one of the all time greats,I can remember my dad talking about Jimmy Young but it was totally opposite of what granberry said, like how he would stink up the place no matter who he was fighting one of the most boring heavyweights of all time.

Its not granberry. It's just some troll getting stirring the pot by posting outlandish statements as "Granberry Returns."

Jimmy Young came to Britain several times, and only won his last fight there.

[kikibalt]

Letters to the LATimes

Gloves are off

The next time those (mis)managing the sport of boxing wonder why it is mostly an afterthought when compared to MMA, they need look no further than the debacle of trying to set up a Floyd Mayweather/Manny Pacquiao fight. This is the only fight everyone wants to see yet odds are we never will. If Floyd and Manny were in the UFC, Dana White would have already matched them up at least one time and as smart and shrewd as he is, probably more than that. Telling people what they should want as opposed to giving them what they want crippled the domestic automobile industry and is turning boxing into horse racing — an irrelevant sport that is dying a slow, painful death.

Erik Schuman

Fountain Valley

[BoxBuzz]

Though on the run, on the ropes, and down on points coming in to the late rounds, never count this very durable sport out. Late round rallies are often the spoiler of those who think they have this sport figured out.

[Expug]

I agree with you Buzz that boxing has come off the ropes before.
The problem is,this time there is an alternative combat sport out there that has the younger generations attention.
This should be a time for boxing to see the competition and up its game rather than take a back seat.
I dont see the sport improving right now.
Ive said it before and it bears repeating, that mma is in a very enviable position in terms of recruiting new participants.
1) It has a whole grass roots recruiting pool in high school and university wrestling.
2) It can market itself as the most "hardcore" sport out there while still being safer than boxing.

I cant stand seeing boxing go the direction its going right now. Irrelevant is what its becoming.
Its not so much lack of pay per view buys,publicity,main stream popularity,etc that bothers me.
Im more concerned with the lack of interest in participation of the younger generation.

[kikibalt]

[BoxBuzz]

The one man Marciano Feared.

[BoxBuzz]

great article by the way.

[Rick Farris]

Remembering "Wildhawke" . . .


It was summer, 1999, when I discovered the internet. I entered the name "Roberto Duran" into a search engine, and found myself on the Roberto Duran thread of the AOL Boxing Board. This is when I began writing about boxing in L.A. as I knew it.

This lead my writing for the Cyber Boxing Zone.
The CBZ liked my L.A. stories, and I convinced the CBZ editor, Stephen Gordon to check out the AOL Forum. "The Bucket" as he was known to his readers, suggested the CBZ start it's own Forum, and asked if I would manage it.
I said "No, but I will contribute." That was the beginning of what would become a great boxing forum. It got big quick, and I was a part of it.
So were many others a part of it.

The best thing about a successful boxing forum is the friendship and respect shared by it's core members. The ones that make our days when things might be challening, otherwise.
I've turned many a stressful day around by writing on boxing threads.

The great thing about the internet is that it brings the world together. We on this thread, which is second to no boxing thread in existence, have forged life long friendships with people from around the world.

As the CBZ Forum grew, with legendary threads such as the Rodolfo "El Gato" Gonzalez thread, and the "The History of California Boxing" by Hap Navarro thread, friendships developed world wide.

On the West Coast, I posted regularly, as did Dan Hanley from Chicago, Greg Beyer from Washington State, Robert from New York, and a poster from the United Kingdom, near Kent, I believe, known as "Wildhawke".

Wildhawke. His real name was Danny Cahalin, and his wife's name was "Rita", and Danny knew boxing. Danny was a scrapper in his day, and perhaps one of the most wonderful human beings in the world, whom I never met face-to-face, but whom I felt I knew. I felt Danny's warmth, and I witnessed his compassion and kindness towards the boxers we write about here.

When this thread took life in February, 2008, when I first posted here, I thought how great it would be if Danny could join us. Eventually, he did. He didn't post often, the West Coast aspect didn't quite agree with him. However, Danny was behind us all the way. Nobody knows better than former world champ, Rodolfo "El Gato" Gonzalez, about the loyalty and friendship of Wildhawke. Danny Cahalin was one of the chief supporters of El Gato's campaign for IBHOF induction.

Wildhawke passed recently. I'm truly saddened by his death. I knew he was sick, and he was gone so quickly.

Rest in Peace, Danny. We love you.
Your spirit shall always remain a part of boxing, and I shall always remember you with a smile.


-Rick Farris

[Boxingnut]

Remembering "Wildhawke" . . .


It was summer, 1999, when I discovered the internet. I entered the name "Roberto Duran" into a search engine, and found myself on the Roberto Duran thread of the AOL Boxing Board. This is when I began writing about boxing in L.A. as I knew it.

This lead my writing for the Cyber Boxing Zone.
The CBZ liked my L.A. stories, and I convinced the CBZ editor, Stephen Gordon to check out the AOL Forum. "The Bucket" as he was known to his readers, suggested the CBZ start it's own Forum, and asked if I would manage it.
I said "No, but I will contribute." That was the beginning of what would become a great boxing forum. It got big quick, and I was a part of it.
So were many others a part of it.

The best thing about a successful boxing forum is the friendship and respect shared by it's core members. The ones that make our days when things might be challening, otherwise.
I've turned many a stressful day around by writing on boxing threads.

The great thing about the internet is that it brings the world together. We on this thread, which is second to no boxing thread in existence, have forged life long friendships with people from around the world.

As the CBZ Forum grew, with legendary threads such as the Rodolfo "El Gato" Gonzalez thread, and the "The History of California Boxing" by Hap Navarro thread, friendships developed world wide.

On the West Coast, I posted regularly, as did Dan Hanley from Chicago, Greg Beyer from Washington State, Robert from New York, and a poster from the United Kingdom, near Kent, I believe, known as "Wildhawke".

Wildhawke. His real name was Danny Cahalin, and his wife's name was "Rita", and Danny knew boxing. Danny was a scrapper in his day, and perhaps one of the most wonderful human beings in the world, whom I never met face-to-face, but whom I felt I knew. I felt Danny's warmth, and I witnessed his compassion and kindness towards the boxers we write about here.

When this thread took life in February, 2008, when I first posted here, I thought how great it would be if Danny could join us. Eventually, he did. He didn't post often, the West Coast aspect didn't quite agree with him. However, Danny was behind us all the way. Nobody knows better than former world champ, Rodolfo "El Gato" Gonzalez, about the loyalty and friendship of Wildhawke. Danny Cahalin was one of the chief supporters of El Gato's campaign for IBHOF induction.

Wildhawke passed recently. I'm truly saddened by his death. I knew he was sick, and he was gone so quickly.

Rest in Peace, Danny. We love you.
Your spirit shall always remain a part of boxing, and I shall always remember you with a smile.


-Rick Farris

Great tribute Rick.

[Boxingnut]

Here is a tribute to Danny I wrote on another site. Not as good as Rick's but I hope I did the old boy proud.

TBCB HoF - Danny Cahalin
Written by Rob Morris

Danny CahalinDanny Cahalin (better known as Wildhawke or Wildhake11 to the internet boxing community) was born in Southern England in 1939. He was married to Rita and has a son, Glen.

Danny’s passion for boxing began he was 15 when he had “a little local involvement” in the sport and would last for the next 55 years. During this time Danny developed an in depth knowledge of the sport which, combined with his self effacing humor and gentlemanly nature would literally touch people from all corners of the world through the internet. Danny loved the interaction on the boxing message boards and his son Glen has indicated it brought him much pleasure.

Danny once shared his own philosophy as how to conduct oneself on these boards:
“On any chat board as you well know you will find a range of different people. It’s a bit like at a party you have been invited to or drinking at your regular bar or drinking hole. Difference is on line you can be a tough guy and a keyboard warrior and get away with it most times. But take a bet that many who think they are a tough nut would be as quite as a mouse in a different situation. Where the wrong word or even a stare at a stranger a little too long would lead to making a guy feel uncomfortable very quickly I have always tried to live by the rule speak to others as you yourself would like to be spoken to. I also agree never say anything to someone on line that you would not be prepared to say to him in person.”
Danny truly lived up to this philosophy through words and actions.

On one occasion an American gentleman from one the boxing boards was shot six times. Danny quickly put out a plea for some boxing tapes on video or DVD and asked for names of reliable sellers of good quality tapes so that he could send him some fights to watch while he recuperated.

It is ironic that one of Danny’s quotes about another poster on a message board, “Never have I heard a bad word said about you from anyone. Your Class, Sheer Class“is so applicable to Danny himself.

As well as boxing, Danny liked football (soccer), his favourite team being Chelsea of the English Premier League. He also enjoyed horse-racing computer games and liked simulation games and shoot-em ups. One of Danny’s favorite games was Title Bout Championship boxing, and as respected member of that community was a member of the testing team. This was an endeavor he thoroughly enjoyed and contributions during the development process were invaluable.

Sadly, just before Christmas of 2009 Danny was diagnosed with a brain tumor, yet in typical unselfish fashion he announced it on the internet in January so as not to spoil our Christmas!! This act epitomized the type of person Danny was, putting the joy of others first, even in his greatest hour of need. Tragically Danny died of this tumor on 7th May 2010 and his loss left an irreplaceable void in the lives of all that knew him.

Danny indicated on some of the internet boxing boards (namely Cyber Boxing Zone, Boxrec and Title Bout Championship Boxing) that some of his favourite fighters were Rocky Marciano, Benny Leonard, Harry Greb and Archie Moore amongst others, but he respected all that were brave enough to enter the ring. Yet Danny’s bravery and spirit in face of the illness that would eventually take him from us would have made any one of these warriors proud. His will and character were strong to the end and it is those traits that will remain his legacy.

I read once or twice Danny quote the lyrics from “My Way” by Frank Sinatra. A couple of the verses seem particularly apt to Danny.

And so I face the final curtain
My friend, I'll say it clear
I'll state my case, of which I'm certain
I've lived a life that's full
I travelled each and every highway
And more, much more than this, I did it my way

For what is a man, what has he got?
If not himself, then he has naught
to say the things he truly feels and not the words of one who kneels
the record shows I took the blows and did it my way!

Yes, it was my way.
RIP Danny, much missed and never to be forgotten.

[kikibalt]

Rob & Rick, I took the liberty of copying both your tribute's to Danny and posting them on my blog, see the link below....Great tribute's by the way....

http://westcoastboxersofyearsgoneby.blogspot.com/

[kikibalt]

Dedicated to Danny Cahalin,AKA Wildhawke11

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6E2hYDIFDIU
"I Did My Way"
Frank Sinatra

[kikibalt]

[Boxingnut]

Rob & Rick, I took the liberty of copying both your tribute's to Danny and posting them on my blog, see the link below....Great tribute's by the way....

http://westcoastboxersofyearsgoneby.blogspot.com/

No problem Frank, I consider that an honour