Temporary fault 'Maloney Claims Jeffries Can Be World Champ'

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Maloney is a fantastic promoter and Jeffries is an olympic medallist who had a bad night. That about covers it :TU:
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JimJim2009 wrote:Maloney is a fantastic promoter and Jeffries is an olympic medallist who had a bad night. That about covers it :TU:
Agreed about Maloney - but you and others are in complete denial if you think it about covers it concerning Jaffa.
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Spud - Jeffries admittedly had a bad night, too early to give up on him though.

Far too early
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Jeffries has had bad nights in two of his last three outings, which is not a good sign. After so many poor performances, it becomes obvious that these are not simply bad nights, but the type of performances put in by a fighter who is not that great. If Jeffries performs like this again, I don't see how he could be cut anymore slack. Frankly, I think his capabilities are relatively obvious at this point. Even on an off night, I think a good fighter who is destined for significant success in the pro ranks would clearly beat fighters like Banbula and King.
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Jeffries is an olympic medallist who had a bad night. That about covers it
You can"t judge a fighter on one bad night, yes there are a few things that have to be looked at and a few changes that may have to be made in the Jeffries camp, But that is the job of Phil and myself to sit down with the team and go over everything that went wrong on Friday night. 4 people to come on here and right him off is laughtable. If myself and other boxing people took yours ponits of veiws there would be many boxers dropped and giving up on, Quite a few of my fighters have had bad nights and learn from them and gone on to win titles. I recall a top sports writer writing about Lennox Lewis after a real bad show at the RAH after i think about his 6 or 8 fight and saying Lewis would be lucky to make it to the British Title he all so said it after a fight in LV on the night of the young heavyweights and team Lewis seat down and every one may there ponits and changes were made and we know what happen. Maybe this is a wake call Team Jeffries needed and myself it is still very early days i would rather we make mistake now early in his career than later on and learn what has to be changed or what has to be done and i do agree with some of your post on that showing we have all left ourselfs out there to be talk about but not to personal insulting us. We will all cont. to this disagreed with each other on here but to me that what a forum is about, But let me end this by saying Tony Jeffries he Father Phil and myself have the most to lose if we do not get it right, you lot will just find a new boxer/manger or promt. to talk about or slag off.I still stick by my guns you do not become a bad fighter on one bad nights showing is how you deal with that bad showing.
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So long as there are no more of these shite Latvian opponents for him - most of them shouldn't even be granted a licence to box they are so bad.

Like other people have said, he needs to be off TV, away from Sunderland, and off Twitter as well..... and against opponents of a similar calibre to Bambula.

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FtmPress wrote:Jeffries is an olympic medallist who had a bad night. That about covers it
You can"t judge a fighter on one bad night, yes there are a few things that have to be looked at and a few changes that may have to be made in the Jeffries camp, But that is the job of Phil and myself to sit down with the team and go over everything that went wrong on Friday night. 4 people to come on here and right him off is laughtable. If myself and other boxing people took yours ponits of veiws there would be many boxers dropped and giving up on, Quite a few of my fighters have had bad nights and learn from them and gone on to win titles. I recall a top sports writer writing about Lennox Lewis after a real bad show at the RAH after i think about his 6 or 8 fight and saying Lewis would be lucky to make it to the British Title he all so said it after a fight in LV on the night of the young heavyweights and team Lewis seat down and every one may there ponits and changes were made and we know what happen. Maybe this is a wake call Team Jeffries needed and myself it is still very early days i would rather we make mistake now early in his career than later on and learn what has to be changed or what has to be done and i do agree with some of your post on that showing we have all left ourselfs out there to be talk about but not to personal insulting us. We will all cont. to this disagreed with each other on here but to me that what a forum is about, But let me end this by saying Tony Jeffries he Father Phil and myself have the most to lose if we do not get it right, you lot will just find a new boxer/manger or promt. to talk about or slag off.I still stick by my guns you do not become a bad fighter on one bad nights showing is how you deal with that bad showing.
great post
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i think jeffries has been draining the life out of his body since turning pro & is paying the consequences for it now.
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hurlock wrote:i think jeffries has been draining the life out of his body since turning pro & is paying the consequences for it now.
It's interesting, I have always thought Jeffries was very big for a LHW, yet he comes in well below the limit. Is he cutting too much weight or having other weight issues? I haven't heard anything about this in the past.
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crusader wrote:
hurlock wrote:i think jeffries has been draining the life out of his body since turning pro & is paying the consequences for it now.
It's interesting, I have always thought Jeffries was very big for a LHW, yet he comes in well below the limit. Is he cutting too much weight or having other weight issues? I haven't heard anything about this in the past.
Intresting comment just watched his fight on sky he was winning the fight until after 6 rounds when told he was doing 8 hes body and head switched of his corner were terrible and didnt no what to do needs a big change in team jeffries now,
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As I watched it on Sky, I thought maybe Tony was cheesed off with the cut, in case it cocked up future plans - Frank Maloney has a major promotion in the North East in seven weeks (Molitor vs Booth), at the time the blood started flowing he might not have known whether the cut would have affected his chances of being on that card. I don't know if there are plans to have Jeffries on that show, I can only speculate, but its in his neck of the woods and his promoter is staging the show so maybe...

If he did suffer a torn bicep in training, that can be a nasty injury. It would certainly affect his performance.

On a wider note it would be good to see how DeGale and Groves would perform against Banbula.

Jeffries has looked brilliant in some of his earlier fights, and his pedigree can't be doubted, I'm sure team jeffries will make a few changes and get him back to his best. Good luck Tony :TU:
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interesting thread. it seems it's not just a one off though, because i recall many posters feeling that jeffries' previous fight should have been a draw.
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Autobarn wrote:interesting thread. it seems it's not just a one off though, because i recall many posters feeling that jeffries' previous fight should have been a draw.
Autobarn jeffries won in the 2nd round on his last fight :wink: :wink: :wink:
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bigdaddy wrote:
Autobarn wrote:interesting thread. it seems it's not just a one off though, because i recall many posters feeling that jeffries' previous fight should have been a draw.
Autobarn jeffries won in the 2nd round on his last fight :wink: :wink: :wink:
you can probably tell i've not been watching my sky undercards

alright then the one before that

a recent points fight that many on here said should have been a draw
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Changes definitely need to be made, but it's way too early to right him off.
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Hagler2002 wrote:Yeah I was out of order, I was mortal drunk so I can only apologize to everyone I had a rant about/too.....Sorry :oops:
Ha ha, this seems to be a pretty prevalent problem on this forum. People log on when drunk and bring the forum into disrepute. I suggest we have an "Alchohol-Induced-Ranters-Sub-Forum."
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And Jeffries is way too up-right and limted to be of real class - perhaps British level?
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its probably the uprightness that worries me most mate.
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I've seen people who've had their spine pinned look more relaxed than him.
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Dioufy wrote:I've seen people who've had their spine pinned look more relaxed than him.

Some of the stick on here is out of order,Jeffreys will no more then anyone he has had a really bad day at the office,but some of the comments are are dame rude,i wonder how many people on here who are giving him stick have had a pair of gloves on some of the comments are fair but some are really bad in my view i have boxed and no what the game like,I wonder if that hagler 2002 has had a pair gloves on coming on here pissed giving maloney stick who by the way comes on here and lets the fans have the info.

Now my view on the jeffreys fight? He was not his self,he won the fight in 6 rounds and went in to in a one when told he had to do 8 rounds i think it done his head in,His corner was poor that needs changing now rather then latter, One real bad night dose not make a boxer a bad boxer with jeffreys back ground His manager and his coaches must be to blame on this display if he was injured in any way he should not of boxed,and god nos what his coaches are doing with him in the gym.
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FIGHTFANs wrote:
Dioufy wrote:I've seen people who've had their spine pinned look more relaxed than him.
Some of the stick on here is out of order,Jeffreys will no more then anyone he has had a really bad day at the office,but some of the comments are are dame rude,i wonder how many people on here who are giving him stick have had a pair of gloves on some of the comments are fair but some are really bad in my view i have boxed and no what the game like,I wonder if that hagler 2002 has had a pair gloves on coming on here pissed giving maloney stick who by the way comes on here and lets the fans have the info.

Now my view on the jeffreys fight? He was not his self,he won the fight in 6 rounds and went in to in a one when told he had to do 8 rounds i think it done his head in,His corner was poor that needs changing now rather then latter, One real bad night dose not make a boxer a bad boxer with jeffreys back ground His manager and his coaches must be to blame on this display if he was injured in any way he should not of boxed,and god nos what his coaches are doing with him in the gym.
Settle down, please. Firstly, I've had my fair share of fights, so I know what it's like to be in a ring. Secondly, and more importantly, I would say my critiquing of Jeffries is constructive. I didn't come out saying he's shite and should give it up, I said he's limited and would be better if he didn't stand so rigid, followed by my lame attempt to be funny. If Jeffries or anyone else is offended by my comments then all I can say is get a life.
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IMO Jeffries should have stayed with Joe Gallagher, a busy successfull gym would have brought out the best in him, they always work as a team at Gallagher's, there is no preferential treatment that Tony so craved.
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