andHave Ben Dunne's Guinness-soaked fans all switched to Lee.
That's childish, WUM crap. No need for it bennie.Don't give up the day job, Paddy.
Noooo, it's like algebra class all over again.Counter-puncher wrote:you're right deno its never as easy as person X always picks the fighter from country Y over the fighter from country Z
You mean like the way I picked Cordoba over Dunne and Poonsawat over Dunne and Sexton over Rogan in their second fight and the way I have just been lambasted for picking John Murray over Andy Murray just yesterday.markp wrote:bennie wrote:I'm actually Irish myself but some of us can laugh at ourselves; however, Lee-Cook is not so funny and anyone defending it is utterly discredited.slapbangwhallop wrote: Nice to see your true colours shine through - bigoted racial slurs, classy!
Keep it up.
Totally agree with Bennie. A writer should be impartial. Slap is very much pro-irish and i've personally never seen him pick against an irish fighter or criticise an irish fighter. The funny thing is that he tries to appear like he isn't biased.
Accusing me of bias and a lack of balance is a bit rich from someone such as yourself - reread my posts on this thread and your own and its clear to see who is balanced.bennie wrote: I'm actually Irish myself but some of us can laugh at ourselves; however, Lee-Cook is not so funny and anyone defending it is utterly discredited.
Vera was offered a rematch with Lee in Ireland but turned it down and apparently an agreement was in place for Lee to fight Barker in September but Macklin was offered the shot instead.Autobarn wrote:how has lee been let down re fights with barker, gevor and sturm?
have he, his manager and promoter been actively seeking these bouts?
apparently lee "taregeted" sergio martinez and will now fight someone whom one poster says looks like a hillbilly off DELIVERENCE?
maybe he's building up toa revenge match and eventual brutal trilogy, with brian vera.
but good stage for lee to put in a performance, needs bigger fights tho.And look where Moore is now...Autobarn wrote:thought you liked guys who fight at a sedate, soothing pace...
re the healy fight - i much prefer jamie moore's destruction of him, tearing into the man with nasty body shots and uppercuts.
no faffing around, was there?
lee, meanwhile...
Dont compare a 34 pro fighter to a 11 pro fighter please.Autobarn wrote:thought you liked guys who fight at a sedate, soothing pace...
re the healy fight - i much prefer jamie moore's destruction of him, tearing into the man with nasty body shots and uppercuts.
no faffing around, was there?
lee, meanwhile...
BigEars is right. To refer to Lee's loss against Vera as 'disastrous seven-round pounding' suggests that Bennie didn't watch that fight. Lee could've stopped Vera on several occasions; he could even have survived the seventh if he just held on instead of firing back.BigEars wrote:Actually it's not, There were no female amateur fighters on the undercard of Andy Lee's fight with Thiam(Katie Taylor withdrew from the card with a broken nose). Also he paints a slightly inaccurate picture of the fight with Vera, making it seem if Vera was handling Lee a merciless beating for 7 consecutive rounds. In truth Lee won the first 6 rounds(including flooring Vera) but was starting to take hefty fire from about the 4th on. The round he was stopped in though was the only one in which he hadn't dished out more than he took.Counter-puncher wrote:crikey, fair play bennie, that's all so brutal but true. brilliant.bennie wrote:Once-beaten Andy Lee ticks over in a nothing eight-rounder with Missouri's James Cook in Oklahoma later this week (Friday).
The big southpaw from Limerick, who fights out of America, is still rebuilding from a disastrous seven-round pounding at the hands of Contender failure Brian Vera in Connecticut in 2008, which took away his unbeaten record and all talk of pending world title glory for the former Olympian, paid half a million dollars by Emanuel Steward to go pro in 2006, although he is ranked in the top 15 by the WBA.
Lee, 26, was dropped down a level afterwards but has still struggled, busting up in fights and requiring plastic surgery, running out of gas and barely surviving, falling in and out of love with Steward and the States, and then there was the ignominy of his last outing against Mamadou Thiam in Limerick in May when the ageing Frenchman bailed out after two rounds claiming a back injury. Frankly, a female amateur on the card would have given Lee a better fight.
The clue to the depth of this Friday's fight is the location. Oklahoma is the ultimate tank-town state and Cook, the ultimate tank-towner, as pitiful as it gets as an opponent. The American has fought just twice since 2004, one of them a four-round draw, and will do well to make it past the first round.
He didn't struggle at all with Gibbs, and easily outboxed Belghecham for 9 rounds. Of course it was the 10th round of that fight which Bennie talks about when he talks about being bust up, running out of gas and barely surviving. It was 1 round for godsake and he's had 46 rounds since he fought Vera. I'm not saying that there aren't valid points in that piece(there certainly are) and he's probably right in that Cook will offer no test to Lee, the only purpose of the bout is to stay sharp and get some exposure(the fight is being covered by ESPN), but the alternative is to not fight at all. What I'm getting at here is that although some of what Bennie says is right, he goes too far and it verges on anti-lee hyperbole. He writes in the style an autor would pen an article, and if this were a proper article the only firm impression I'd get from it is that he doesn't like Andy Lee very much at all, infact you could say he probably has a strong dislike of Lee.
Probably due to copyright infringement it was taken down.kellybluegloves wrote:Why isn't Barker V Belghecham on youtube? :??
i had it on my old youtube account but i got suspendedkellybluegloves wrote:Why isn't Barker V Belghecham on youtube? :??
Oh right I used to watch all your vids on youtube. Do you have a new channel?HomeOfBritishBoxing wrote:i had it on my old youtube account but i got suspendedkellybluegloves wrote:Why isn't Barker V Belghecham on youtube? :??
yes, e actually had a proper careerkellybluegloves wrote:And look where Moore is now...Autobarn wrote:thought you liked guys who fight at a sedate, soothing pace...
re the healy fight - i much prefer jamie moore's destruction of him, tearing into the man with nasty body shots and uppercuts.
no faffing around, was there?
lee, meanwhile...
Lee has plenty of time.Autobarn wrote:yes, e actually had a proper careerkellybluegloves wrote:And look where Moore is now...Autobarn wrote:thought you liked guys who fight at a sedate, soothing pace...
re the healy fight - i much prefer jamie moore's destruction of him, tearing into the man with nasty body shots and uppercuts.
no faffing around, was there?
lee, meanwhile...
meanwhile lee's done nothing.
He looked good against Carl Daniels.ApolloCreed wrote:Lads. Lee has done jack SHlT.
More worryingly, he's never really looked good doing it...
You are not comparing apples with apple there my friend.King Geedorah wrote:In retirement after winning British, Commonwealth and European titles. Oh, he also won an Irish title, which is all Andy's won to date. So where is Jamie Moore now? Sitting pretty and well ahead of Andy in terms of titles and pro achievements.kellybluegloves wrote:And look where Moore is now...Autobarn wrote:thought you liked guys who fight at a sedate, soothing pace...
re the healy fight - i much prefer jamie moore's destruction of him, tearing into the man with nasty body shots and uppercuts.
no faffing around, was there?
lee, meanwhile...
I have to laugh, out of a 2 page thread, the most accurate and relevant comment on this fight is described in the short sentence above.HomeOfBritishBoxing wrote:poor opponent
I was replying to Autobarn who was comparing styles, implying that Lee was boring in comparison to Moore. But look at the toll Jamie's style took on him. That's what I meant so get off your high horse. It's funny how Lee is fair game but god forbid anyone says something even slightly negative about Moore and you take offense. You British are so defensive about your fightersKing Geedorah wrote:In retirement after winning British, Commonwealth and European titles. Oh, he also won an Irish title, which is all Andy's won to date. So where is Jamie Moore now? Sitting pretty and well ahead of Andy in terms of titles and pro achievements.kellybluegloves wrote:And look where Moore is now...Autobarn wrote:thought you liked guys who fight at a sedate, soothing pace...
re the healy fight - i much prefer jamie moore's destruction of him, tearing into the man with nasty body shots and uppercuts.
no faffing around, was there?
lee, meanwhile...
DDNo I didn't ask you moron, I said "And look where Moore is now..." That is a statement, not a question.King Geedorah wrote:'Lee bashing', nope. Simply pointing out to the imbecilic poster named Kelly, who did ask, that Moore is sat in retirement with a load of title wins and Andy is currently doing very little. By his 22nd fight Jamie had jumped in late notice to dethrone Michael Jones. You defend Lee by, rightly, pointing out that he isn't eligible for any decent titles so has had to make do with the Irish triumph. I dare say he'll have to do make do with this for quite some time as he won't be winning the Euro any time soon. However, an epic win in this weekend's mammoth fight will no doubt prove that Andy is destined for the top.slapbangwhallop wrote:You are not comparing apples with apple there my friend.King Geedorah wrote: In retirement after winning British, Commonwealth and European titles. Oh, he also won an Irish title, which is all Andy's won to date. So where is Jamie Moore now? Sitting pretty and well ahead of Andy in terms of titles and pro achievements.
Andy has won the Irish title as did Jamie. So basically the only thing Jamie has over Andy is the European title as Andy isn't going to be fighting for the British or Commonwealth titles.
Jamie was five years older and in his 33rd fight before he won the European title - Andy has had 22 fights and dare I say it would happily have jumped in and taken Belgachams position to fight for a European title against Barker.
Sorry to interrupt your Lee bashing but now that that is out of the way you can get back to it.
Andy Lee hasn't got what it takes, just like Duddy didn't. How long will this penny take to drop?
To use the apple analogy -- I'm comparing a nice, successful apple (Moore) with a pip, or seed, or whatever an apple grows from, in Lee.