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[HomicideHenry]

I hope this will become a sticky, so that future generations can see that BoxRec is a site filled with both men and women with real world boxing experiences and opinions; mma guys can apply as well

Rules are, leave your real name and proof of your record and tell a story or two about your career simple as that!


My name? Rufus Henry Defibaugh, alias 'Homicide Henry', I have a current record of 0-1-0 (0) I made my debut on February 27th of 2010 against J'Leon Love the silver medal winner of the 2007 PAN games. I lost via TKO in the first round. My story and the drama surrounding it can be found in the Current Scene forum under the thread [which is locked unfortunately] 'Made My Pro Debut Saturday'.

[Darling]

Everything that needs to be said about your "career" is in that thread, mate.

[Goodnight, Irene]

Everything that needs to be said about your "career" is in that thread, mate.

Do your maniacal inclinations of chasing people down in real life for criticising your deity, Ali, qualify here?

[Goodnight, Irene]

I've started training in a gym two weeks ago and will start having amateur fights as soon I'm ready. I love it, I don't understand how some fighters can get lazy when it's such a great feeling to push yourself 100% hoping you one day can become a champion. I'll come back here and post any clips/results of when I do start my amateur fighting (I'll be at 201lb).

Unrelated note: How come Pacquiao says that taking out blood will weaken him? Yesterday I helped out a friend in his phlebotomy class where he had to practice drawing blood and he took out a good amount (enough to fill a tube about the size of an average man's middle finger), and despite almost feinting shortly after, I later (6 hours) went to train at my gym and I did my session a la Joe Frazier style where I went from (all were 3, 3 minute "rounds") running, shadowboxing, jump-rope, speedbag and heavybag with little to no breaks in between and unquestionably gave it my all (didn't feel like my friend taking out blood affected me at all). So, why is it that he thinks it will weaken him? Or I am too naive?

Doesn't occur to you being twenty years of age & having spent two weeks in the gym might have something to do with your boundless enthusiasm?

[Bricks]

I've started training in a gym two weeks ago and will start having amateur fights as soon I'm ready. I love it, I don't understand how some fighters can get lazy when it's such a great feeling to push yourself 100% hoping you one day can become a champion. I'll come back here and post any clips/results of when I do start my amateur fighting (I'll be at 201lb).

Unrelated note: How come Pacquiao says that taking out blood will weaken him? Yesterday I helped out a friend in his phlebotomy class where he had to practice drawing blood and he took out a good amount (enough to fill a tube about the size of an average man's middle finger), and despite almost feinting shortly after, I later (6 hours) went to train at my gym and I did my session a la Joe Frazier style where I went from (all were 3, 3 minute "rounds") running, shadowboxing, jump-rope, speedbag and heavybag with little to no breaks in between and unquestionably gave it my all (didn't feel like my friend taking out blood affected me at all). So, why is it that he thinks it will weaken him? Or I am too naive?

Doesn't occur to you being twenty years of age & having spent two weeks in the gym might have something to do with your boundless enthusiasm?

[BoxBuzz]

You've set a goal, your enthusiastic, and your communicating some hopes and expectations.

Now each of us have a choice. We can encourage your stated goals and support you in some manner. (Like tossing out some attaboys!) or we can belittle and toss out some negativity your way. I'm going with kudos for you. The ONLY point that Goodnight MAY have in his initial growling is that you may end up learning something about yourself that you do not currently imagine. Like setting the goal to high and meeting with some disappointment along the way. Or maybe deciding to give up on something that no longer suits your fancy.

G.I. knows full well the heartbreak of these disappointments, and is probably attempting in his own way to help brace you for the "agony of defeat" or the "sadness of disappointment" or the "heartbreak of psoriasis" all experiences he has come to know close up and personal. It is both a selfless and noble attempt on his part. Sharing the pain he has known, in order that you be more prepared for some sort of similar outcome.

The other possibility is that you go forward and eclipse even Charlie Zellenoff who soared to Olympian heights after stating right here on box-rec that he would be the next Floyd Mayweather in boxing. Now granted Charlie become more like "Floyd the Barber from Mayberry:, than another Mayweather, but that's the way life goes.

To you I say, "good luck".

[raylawpc]

Barry, if you've got the balls to go in there and try to achieve your dream, I say God bless you and good luck to you!! Go for it, kid!!

You too Rufus. If boxing is still your dream, I hope you'll try it again but this time with somebody at your own level. . . God bless you too!!

[Darling]

Everything that needs to be said about your "career" is in that thread, mate.

Do your maniacal inclinations of chasing people down in real life for criticising your deity, Ali, qualify here?

Irene, why not start another of your insane threads like that classic one "sliding greats"? Just cos no one responds to your mindless drivel doesn't mean you shouldn't do it. I mean, what else do you have to do with your life while waiting to go to your low intellect job as a doorman.



Doorman! Hahahahahahahahaahahaha.

[crusader]

I'm twenty and have been boxing for nine years. I have an amateur record of 26-5 and won two provincial titles, but due to an aversion to flying, never competed in the nationals. I am not boxing competitively anymore, but I fought my last couple of bouts at 165. I have sparred with a female world amateur champion, plenty of national champions, and couple of local pros that have had decent success. I still hit the bags a few days a week, but without the same vigour as when I was fighting. Barry, I was enthusiastic as you after two weeks, but when you have been doing it for years it isn't quite the same. I'm sure a lot of guys maintain the passion for fighting and training, but it is easy for me to understand why guys get out of shape and lose their competitive drive. Two weeks is not the same as twenty years.


I was also shocked the first time I sparred. The kid I was sparring with was not a very good fighter. He had a record of 3-5 and was probably about 20 pounds lighter and three inches shorter than me. However, he thoroughly took me to school. I eventually gained more experience and became a much better fighter than him, but it showed me the difference between an athletic, tough kid, and someone who is actually a trained boxer.

[Goodnight, Irene]

You've set a goal, your enthusiastic, and your communicating some hopes and expectations.

Now each of us have a choice. We can encourage your stated goals and support you in some manner. (Like tossing out some attaboys!) or we can belittle and toss out some negativity your way. I'm going with kudos for you. The ONLY point that Goodnight MAY have in his initial growling is that you may end up learning something about yourself that you do not currently imagine. Like setting the goal to high and meeting with some disappointment along the way. Or maybe deciding to give up on something that no longer suits your fancy.

G.I. knows full well the heartbreak of these disappointments, and is probably attempting in his own way to help brace you for the "agony of defeat" or the "sadness of disappointment" or the "heartbreak of psoriasis" all experiences he has come to know close up and personal. It is both a selfless and noble attempt on his part. Sharing the pain he has known, in order that you be more prepared for some sort of similar outcome.

The other possibility is that you go forward and eclipse even Charlie Zellenoff who soared to Olympian heights after stating right here on box-rec that he would be the next Floyd Mayweather in boxing. Now granted Charlie become more like "Floyd the Barber from Mayberry:, than another Mayweather, but that's the way life goes.

To you I say, "good luck".

Relax. It was just a question.

[jrc26]

I've started training in a gym two weeks ago and will start having amateur fights as soon I'm ready. I love it, I don't understand how some fighters can get lazy when it's such a great feeling to push yourself 100% hoping you one day can become a champion. I'll come back here and post any clips/results of when I do start my amateur fighting (I'll be at 201lb).

Unrelated note: How come Pacquiao says that taking out blood will weaken him? Yesterday I helped out a friend in his phlebotomy class where he had to practice drawing blood and he took out a good amount (enough to fill a tube about the size of an average man's middle finger), and despite almost feinting shortly after, I later (6 hours) went to train at my gym and I did my session a la Joe Frazier style where I went from (all were 3, 3 minute "rounds") running, shadowboxing, jump-rope, speedbag and heavybag with little to no breaks in between and unquestionably gave it my all (didn't feel like my friend taking out blood affected me at all). So, why is it that he thinks it will weaken him? Or I am too naive?

Doesn't occur to you being twenty years of age & having spent two weeks in the gym might have something to do with your boundless enthusiasm?

Come on G.I. A little support for the young man. I know your sarcastic comments know no bounds, but plenty of fighters keep their boundless enthusiasm all the way through.

[Goodnight, Irene]

I'm not being unsupportive, or critical. Simply, to say you don't know why fighters lose momentum given how great it feels to be working out & setting goals when you're twenty & have been in the Gym less than a month is fanciful, idealist thinking. Really, put in the simplest terms, it's plain silly.

I'm just asking the question --- does it not occur to Barry things may get astronomically more difficult from the point he's at now to the point many Boxers find themselves in over the years?

[jrc26]

I'm not being unsupportive, or critical. Simply, to say you don't know why fighters lose momentum given how great it feels to be working out & setting goals when you're twenty & have been in the Gym less than a month is fanciful, idealist thinking. Really, put in the simplest terms, it's plain silly.

I'm just asking the question --- does it not occur to Barry things may get astronomically more difficult from the point he's at now to the point many Boxers find themselves in over the years?

When your goal is to go into a ring and potentially get your brains beat in...I think ignorance is bliss in this case G.I. DD

[Goodnight, Irene]

You may be right about that, JRC

[Bricks]

I'm not being unsupportive, or critical. Simply, to say you don't know why fighters lose momentum given how great it feels to be working out & setting goals when you're twenty & have been in the Gym less than a month is fanciful, idealist thinking. Really, put in the simplest terms, it's plain silly.

I'm just asking the question --- does it not occur to Barry things may get astronomically more difficult from the point he's at now to the point many Boxers find themselves in over the years?

Take a guy like Iran Barkley and yknow Barry does remind me a lot of Iran in terms of his enthusiasm for fighting and attitude.

Iran is almost 50 he still wants to fight. He still has boundless enthusiasm , the internal warrior and beleif he can beat anyone out there even now etc. But Iran is crippled by an ageing body which wont obey the commands its given, countless broken bones, scar tissue on the eyes which opens up with one slight backhander, and a detached retina in an eye.

When your 20 you dont realise by the time you are 35 or 40 your body cant be expected to be relied upon always for a sport as hard as boxing. YOur reflexes start to let you down, your speed goes. Road work starts to kill you more than the actual fighting

Fighters dont neccesarily "get out of shape" out of choice, injuries force it on them.

I remember what Marlon Starling said about why he retired and bear in mind he was only 31-32. He said he went over to spar with some new prospects. He sparred them and than had to go to sleep for a week. He decided to retire right than.

[Bricks]

Read this interview with Barkley to illustrate what I mean:

http://www.thesweetscience.com/boxing-a ... -type-guy/

Iran would climb in the ring with Vitali if it meant another chance.

[BoxBuzz]

You've set a goal, your enthusiastic, and your communicating some hopes and expectations.

Now each of us have a choice. We can encourage your stated goals and support you in some manner. (Like tossing out some attaboys!) or we can belittle and toss out some negativity your way. I'm going with kudos for you. The ONLY point that Goodnight MAY have in his initial growling is that you may end up learning something about yourself that you do not currently imagine. Like setting the goal to high and meeting with some disappointment along the way. Or maybe deciding to give up on something that no longer suits your fancy.

G.I. knows full well the heartbreak of these disappointments, and is probably attempting in his own way to help brace you for the "agony of defeat" or the "sadness of disappointment" or the "heartbreak of psoriasis" all experiences he has come to know close up and personal. It is both a selfless and noble attempt on his part. Sharing the pain he has known, in order that you be more prepared for some sort of similar outcome.

The other possibility is that you go forward and eclipse even Charlie Zellenoff who soared to Olympian heights after stating right here on box-rec that he would be the next Floyd Mayweather in boxing. Now granted Charlie become more like "Floyd the Barber from Mayberry:, than another Mayweather, but that's the way life goes.

To you I say, "good luck".

Relax. It was just a question.

Not to worry G.I.! I always find it quite relaxing to "speak truth to sour".

[Goodnight, Irene]

You will be a very rare specimen indeed if that turns out to be the case. Best of luck.

[Expug]

Well, good luck.
Question though,have you sparred yet? Been hit at all?
We cant call ya a cowboy till we see ya ride.
Good luck again .
Remember surround yourself with good people .They gotta keep an eye on everything.Everbodys always looking for an edge in this sport.
You can go to your first am. fight thinking you are gonna fight fighter x who has no experience and all of a sudden,the plans change and you are fighting fighter y who was a golden glove champ.
Remember, the other guys people are always looking for an edge.

[raylawpc]

Well, good luck.
Question though,have you sparred yet? Been hit at all?
We cant call ya a cowboy till we see ya ride.
Good luck again .
Remember surround yourself with good people .They gotta keep an eye on everything.Everbodys always looking for an edge in this sport.
You can go to your first am. fight thinking you are gonna fight fighter x who has no experience and all of a sudden,the plans change and you are fighting fighter y who was a golden glove champ.
Remember, the other guys people are always looking for an edge.

Good advice Brian . . .

[Expug]

Thanks Tom.
I know you have seen it all.
I think I may have also.

[Expug]

You should care who you fight in the beginning.You should want a chance to win and improve.
The percentage of beginners thrown in over their head who beat established am champs is very very slim.
You wont learn either.
Like I said,surround yourself with good people who will see to it that you get good fights when you start out.That way you learn and develop.
Ive been there. I know.So does Raylaw.

[Panzerfaust]

Some sound advice from Expug there Barry. I was thrown in with a national champ after 4 months of training in my first fight. out on my feet after 1:26

[hhaehre]

Read this interview with Barkley to illustrate what I mean:

http://www.thesweetscience.com/boxing-a ... -type-guy/

Iran would climb in the ring with Vitali if it meant another chance.

Sure he would, Barkley is broke and, like many other ex. fighters, does not know how to hold down a regular job. He pissed away all his ring earnings and now it's too late. Funny how Iran does not want to be a trainer because his pride will not allow him to play the supporting role to a fighter. This from a guy who tried to auction off dinner dates with himself a few years back.

[Goodnight, Irene]

You will be a very rare specimen indeed if that turns out to be the case. Best of luck.

If that mentality makes me rare, then that is sad. I have had this mentality even when I wasn't training in a boxing gym. In just regards to lifting, when I said I was going to do something that's what I was going to do, no matter what. When I enter the gym (whether for lifting of boxing) all of my thoughts are on one thing only. The world around and outside of the gym does not exist when I'm training. I love Boxing to the point where if I think about my possible success I always tear up. I've always been athletic (played High School Track, Basketball, American Football and played Baseball, Hockey and "Soccer/Football" up until I was around 11-13 years of age). I also would say it does not take me long to understand something being taught and have all the patience in the world to improve and keep my composure in the ring. I really plan on filming some training/sparring sessions and definitely all of my fights. And when I do I'll be sure to upload them on BoxRec. I appreciate the support, G.I.

We will all be interested to see it.