Classic American West Coast Boxing

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raylawpc wrote:
Panzerfaust wrote:Had a bit of a walk today, Walked from the hotel on North Highland down to Hollywood Blv took a left over to hollywood and Vine. Went down vine and stopped by Wildcard. Freddie gave my girl the advice that the best shopping was on Melrose, so away we go, from Melrose/vine all the way to Melrose 8400 :o My feet are pretty beat up ,but the wifes happy and im not broke :lol:

Not necessary to say, but we took a Taxi back to the hotel
You found a Target store on Melrose? I mean, unless Freddie dresses down for his TV appearances, he doesn't strike me as a fashion guru . . . :wink: :wink: :lol: :lol:

Just kidding. Sounds like you are having a great time in LA!! :TU: :TU:
I am having a very good time.. :TU:
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Panzerfaust wrote:
raylawpc wrote:
Panzerfaust wrote:Had a bit of a walk today, Walked from the hotel on North Highland down to Hollywood Blv took a left over to hollywood and Vine. Went down vine and stopped by Wildcard. Freddie gave my girl the advice that the best shopping was on Melrose, so away we go, from Melrose/vine all the way to Melrose 8400 :o My feet are pretty beat up ,but the wifes happy and im not broke :lol:

Not necessary to say, but we took a Taxi back to the hotel
You found a Target store on Melrose? I mean, unless Freddie dresses down for his TV appearances, he doesn't strike me as a fashion guru . . . :wink: :wink: :lol: :lol:

Just kidding. Sounds like you are having a great time in LA!! :TU: :TU:
I am having a very good time.. :TU:
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Panzerfaust wrote:since it came highly recomended on this thread i went out and had the Menudo rojo con pata.... i thought it was con pato...so imagine my surprise when i found a foot in my soop :lol: It was delighious though... Ill try and upload a picture later :TU:
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Randy . . . Give me a call or e-mail me when you can.
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raylawpc wrote:Hey Frank. Another thread discusses contenders who should have, but never got a shot at the heavyweight title. I was thinking about Clarence Henry from the early 50s. What do you remember about him? How good was he and do you think he deserved a shot? If memory serves, he was consistently ranked in the top three or four for a couple of years.
Tom, I remember Henry as a very good fighter, who at times would get lazy in the ring, I seen him fight a few times both live and on TV in the early '50's. Yes by all means, he should had gotten a title shot. Henry passed a few years back.

I can remember the fights being televised on local TV as early as 1950 from the Olympic and the Hollywood Legion.


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Z6sE9GSJT6c

Clarence Henry vs Bob Satterfiled

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oDZ0BZBtbSo

Clarence Henry vs Bob Baker


Clarence Henry

Hometown Los Angeles, California, USA
Birthplace San Antonio, Texas, USA
Division Heavyweight
Born 1926-03-27
Stance Orthodox
Height 185cm

Career Record ©www.boxrec.com

Date Opponent Location Result

1954-03-01 Tommy Jackson Brooklyn, US L UD 10

1954-02-17 Jimmy Slade Washington, US L MD 10

1953-12-21 Bob Baker Brooklyn, US W UD 10

1953-07-27 Shirley Pembleton Allentown, US W PTS 8

1952-06-26 Archie Moore Baltimore, US L UD 10

1952-05-26 Maynard Jones Allentown, US W KO 4

1952-03-17 Harold Johnson Philadelphia, US L SD 10

1952-01-30 Bob Satterfield Chicago, US W TKO 1

1951-12-13 Walter Hafer Akron, US W KO 2

1951-11-23 Bob Baker New York, US W KO 8

1951-08-07 Frank Buford Los Angeles, US W UD 10

1951-06-26 Jimmy Bivins Los Angeles, US W UD 10

1951-06-06 Omelio Agramonte Detroit, US W UD 10

1951-05-23 Embrell Davidson Detroit, US W TKO 8

1951-04-02 Baby Dutch Culbertson Philadelphia, US W TKO 2

1951-01-12 Omelio Agramonte New York, US W PTS 8

1950-12-19 Willie Bean Los Angeles, US W UD 12
USA California State Heavyweight Title

1950-11-17 Charley 'Doc' Williams Hollywood, US W UD 10

1950-10-24 Bob Dunlap Los Angeles, US W TKO 2

1950-09-15 Turkey Thompson Hollywood, US W UD 10

1950-08-04 Rusty Payne Hollywood, US W KO 1

1950-07-25 Frank Buford Los Angeles, US L UD 12
USA California State Heavyweight Title

1950-06-27 Frank Buford Los Angeles, US W UD 10

1950-06-13 John Holman Los Angeles, US W UD 10

1950-04-21 Al Spaulding San Diego, US W KO 1

1950-02-21 Bob Murphy Los Angeles, US W TKO 6

1950-02-13 Battling Brown Tucson, US W KO 1

1950-01-30 Frankie Daniels Ocean Park, US W UD 10

1949-12-12 Oakland Billy Smith San Francisco, US NC NC 8

1949-11-23 Battling Blackjack Phoenix, US W TKO 4

1949-09-27 Jimmy Bivins Los Angeles, US L TKO 8

1949-09-02 Jay Lambert Hollywood, US W KO 3

1949-08-09 Baby Dutch Culbertson Los Angeles, US W TKO 9

1949-05-16 Bill McClure Ocean Park, US D TD 7

1949-02-08 Don Espensen Los Angeles, US W TKO 1

1948-12-30 Young Harry Wills Hollywood, US W KO 2

1948-12-07 John C Curtis Los Angeles, US W KO 2

1948-10-18 John C Curtis Ocean Park, US W PTS 4

1948-08-24 Billy Kinard Los Angeles, US W PTS 4

1948-07-26 Tommy Jessen Ocean Park, US W TKO 3

1948-07-20 Don Wagner Los Angeles, US W KO 1

1948-07-06 Al Timmons Los Angeles, US W PTS 4

Record to Date

Won 34 (KOs 19)
Lost 6
Drawn 1
Total 42
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Panzerfaust wrote:since it came highly recomended on this thread i went out and had the Menudo rojo con pata.... i thought it was con pato...so imagine my surprise when i found a foot in my soop :lol: It was delighious though... Ill try and upload a picture later :TU:
I can just see a duck in your menudo. Pato=duck.... :lol: :lol:
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kikibalt wrote:
Panzerfaust wrote:since it came highly recomended on this thread i went out and had the Menudo rojo con pata.... i thought it was con pato...so imagine my surprise when i found a foot in my soop :lol: It was delighious though... Ill try and upload a picture later :TU:
I can just see a duck in your menudo. Pato=duck.... :lol: :lol:

I thought it was duck fat or something :lol: then i found the foot/hoof and my girlfriend told me that pata was not a she duck :lol:
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Panzerfaust wrote:
kikibalt wrote:
Panzerfaust wrote:since it came highly recomended on this thread i went out and had the Menudo rojo con pata.... i thought it was con pato...so imagine my surprise when i found a foot in my soop :lol: It was delighious though... Ill try and upload a picture later :TU:
I can just see a duck in your menudo. Pato=duck.... :lol: :lol:

I thought it was duck fat or something :lol: then i found the foot/hoof and my girlfriend told me that pata was not a she duck :lol:
I had menudo con pata this morning, which is my usual Friday morning breakfast, didn't find a duck in my menudo though..... :lol: :lol:
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kikibalt wrote:
Panzerfaust wrote:
kikibalt wrote: I can just see a duck in your menudo. Pato=duck.... :lol: :lol:

I thought it was duck fat or something :lol: then i found the foot/hoof and my girlfriend told me that pata was not a she duck :lol:
I had menudo con pata this morning, which is my usual Friday morning breakfast, didn't find a duck in my menudo though..... :lol: :lol:

I guess its not something one finds at Taco Bell huh? :lol:
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Panzerfaust wrote:
kikibalt wrote:
Panzerfaust wrote:
I thought it was duck fat or something :lol: then i found the foot/hoof and my girlfriend told me that pata was not a she duck :lol:
I had menudo con pata this morning, which is my usual Friday morning breakfast, didn't find a duck in my menudo though..... :lol: :lol:

I guess its not something one finds at Taco Bell huh? :lol:
Not at all..... :shame: on Taco Bell
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Hi guys been missing in action for about a week, Randy srry to hear about lucky, R.I.P girl :bow:
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My ears must have been ringing with you guys talking about Taco Bell. :lol:
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Rick Farris wrote:Randy . . . Give me a call or e-mail me when you can.
I sent you an email Rick.
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Panzerfaust wrote:since it came highly recomended on this thread i went out and had the Menudo rojo con pata.... i thought it was con pato...so imagine my surprise when i found a foot in my soop :lol: It was delighious though... Ill try and upload a picture later :TU:
I'm glad you liked the Menudo, Panz. I love it but I know it's an acquired taste if you didn't grow up eating it. When we first moved into Pico Rivera in 1963, my neighbor Richard Eriksen, became my best friend. He was born in California but his parents were from Nebraska, so most of the food he ate at home was typical Midwestern fare.

We used to spend the night at each other's house on the weekend. I would have breakfast at his house when I stayed there and he would do the same when he stayed at mine. Now we had usually had eggs, bacon. pancakes, potatoes, etc. Just about every other Sunday we would have menudo con patas. On this one Sunday Richard sat down ready for breakfast. My mother put a big bowl of menudo in front of him. With the pata, of course. He turned every shade of green and blue and looked like he was about to puke and cry. My mother grabbed the bowl and asked him " would you rather have bacon and eggs?" In a weak voice, almost a whisper he said "yes".

Menudo con pata is not for everyone. Certainly not for the faint of heart.

Randy :TU:
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My first ever 'proper' boxing article pulished on the internet

http://www.eastsideboxing.com/news.php?p=24645&more=1

Needles to say I am as pleased as Punch. If only I was as good looking as Punch. :TU:
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Randyman wrote:
Panzerfaust wrote:since it came highly recomended on this thread i went out and had the Menudo rojo con pata.... i thought it was con pato...so imagine my surprise when i found a foot in my soop :lol: It was delighious though... Ill try and upload a picture later :TU:
I'm glad you liked the Menudo, Panz. I love it but I know it's an acquired taste if you didn't grow up eating it. When we first moved into Pico Rivera in 1963, my neighbor Richard Eriksen, became my best friend. He was born in California but his parents were from Nebraska, so most of the food he ate at home was typical Midwestern fare.

We used to spend the night at each other's house on the weekend. I would have breakfast at his house when I stayed there and he would do the same when he stayed at mine. Now we had usually had eggs, bacon. pancakes, potatoes, etc. Just about every other Sunday we would have menudo con patas. On this one Sunday Richard sat down ready for breakfast. My mother put a big bowl of menudo in front of him. With the pata, of course. He turned every shade of green and blue and looked like he was about to puke and cry. My mother grabbed the bowl and asked him " would you rather have bacon and eggs?" In a weak voice, almost a whisper he said "yes".

Menudo con pata is not for everyone. Certainly not for the faint of heart.

Randy :TU:

When I had menudo, I was surprised by the taste. But then Frank explained that it is a breakfast item. (I didn't think he meant it literally when he always called it the Breakfast of Champions.) I had it for lunch before. I think I would like it better for breakfast, but I haven't tried it again.
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THEHAMMER321 wrote:Hi guys been missing in action for about a week, Randy srry to hear about lucky, R.I.P girl :bow:
I can only echo this. I hope Randy and all his family are not too bad.
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Boxingnut wrote:My first ever 'proper' boxing article pulished on the internet

http://www.eastsideboxing.com/news.php?p=24645&more=1

Needles to say I am as pleased as Punch. If only I was as good looking as Punch. :TU:
That's a great preview, Rob. :TU:
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raylawpc wrote:
Randyman wrote:
Panzerfaust wrote:since it came highly recomended on this thread i went out and had the Menudo rojo con pata.... i thought it was con pato...so imagine my surprise when i found a foot in my soop :lol: It was delighious though... Ill try and upload a picture later :TU:
I'm glad you liked the Menudo, Panz. I love it but I know it's an acquired taste if you didn't grow up eating it. When we first moved into Pico Rivera in 1963, my neighbor Richard Eriksen, became my best friend. He was born in California but his parents were from Nebraska, so most of the food he ate at home was typical Midwestern fare.

We used to spend the night at each other's house on the weekend. I would have breakfast at his house when I stayed there and he would do the same when he stayed at mine. Now we had usually had eggs, bacon. pancakes, potatoes, etc. Just about every other Sunday we would have menudo con patas. On this one Sunday Richard sat down ready for breakfast. My mother put a big bowl of menudo in front of him. With the pata, of course. He turned every shade of green and blue and looked like he was about to puke and cry. My mother grabbed the bowl and asked him " would you rather have bacon and eggs?" In a weak voice, almost a whisper he said "yes".

Menudo con pata is not for everyone. Certainly not for the faint of heart.

Randy :TU:

When I had menudo, I was surprised by the taste. But then Frank explained that it is a breakfast item. (I didn't think he meant it literally when he always called it the Breakfast of Champions.) I had it for lunch before. I think I would like it better for breakfast, but I haven't tried it again.
Every now and then I'll have a Bohemia beer with the menudo; even though it early breakfast time.
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Looks like June 25, 2011 for our next CBHOF,so make plans to be in L.A. at the time; you all.... :TU:
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bennie wrote:
THEHAMMER321 wrote:Hi guys been missing in action for about a week, Randy srry to hear about lucky, R.I.P girl :bow:
I can only echo this. I hope Randy and all his family are not too bad.
Ditto, really crap when you lose a pet.
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bennie wrote:
Boxingnut wrote:My first ever 'proper' boxing article pulished on the internet

http://www.eastsideboxing.com/news.php?p=24645&more=1

Needles to say I am as pleased as Punch. If only I was as good looking as Punch. :TU:
That's a great preview, Rob. :TU:
Cheers Bennie, coming from you that means a lot.
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Boxingnut wrote:
bennie wrote:
Boxingnut wrote:My first ever 'proper' boxing article pulished on the internet

http://www.eastsideboxing.com/news.php?p=24645&more=1

Needles to say I am as pleased as Punch. If only I was as good looking as Punch. :TU:
That's a great preview, Rob. :TU:
Cheers Bennie, coming from you that means a lot.
I can't find the article, I get the home page for esb.
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Here you go Frank

Alexander - Kotelnik Preview

By Rob Morris - Devon Alexander and Andriy Kotelnik clash for the former’s WBC and IBF Light Welterweight titles in a fascinating fight on Saturday 7th August at the Scottrade Center, St Louis, Alexander’s hometown.

Alexander will be looking to prove he is number one in the red-hot Light Welterweight division whilst Kotelnik will be looking to get back into championship class having previously held the WBA belt at this weight. There is much riding on this fight as a fight between rival champions Alexander and Tim Bradley is reportedly close to being made..

Alexander is coming off arguably his biggest win in March this year when he flattened teak-tough Juan Urango in 8 rounds with devastating uppercuts, the Columbian having previously gone the distance with Ricky Hatton and Andre Berto.

Kotelnik meanwhile has not fought in over a year, since losing his crown in fact, to England’s Amir Khan on points in July 2009.

As good as Alexander’s win over Urango was it displayed a punching power not hitherto seen; Alexander’s record is 20-0 (13 KO’s) and he is regarded as a respectable though not particularly heavy puncher. It is also worth bearing in mind that the scorecards were close against Urango (one judge had Alexander up by 3 points, the other up by one whilst the third had Urango ahead by one). There are also some who say some of Alexander’s biggest wins (against Junior Witter and DeMarcus Corley particularly) came against men who were old and/or past their best as Witter and Corley were both 34 and had clearly seen better days. This is a tad unfair to Alexander though who has beaten every man he has faced so far since turning pro in 2004 and you can’t ask for much more than that. On his day he is a good counter puncher with quick hands and a good jab although he can be a little flat footed.

He had a long amateur career which culminated in a losing effort to Rock Allen in the final of the US Olympic trials.

Kotelnik fights in the typical East European style adapted from the amateurs; although now based in Hamburg, Germany he is originally from Lviv, Ukraine. He stands straight up, has a good jab and although he is a bit plodding, he usually finds a way to get the job done. As you would expect from a former Olympic silver medallist (in Sydney 2000) he is technically sound. He is the only man to have beaten the fearsome punching Marcos Maidana so far (albeit by split decision), a win that looks better by the day and has generally mixed in a better class than his opponent. He is also tough, his three defeats, in a 31-3-1 (12 KO’s) log have all come on points against solid opposition, Witter, Frenchman Souleymane M’baye and Khan.

The pick here then would have to be Alexander by decision; the blueprint on how to beat Kotelnik is already out there as proved by Witter, M’baye and Khan. Box, move, keep him off balance with your jab and give him different angles, all things Alexander is more than capable of. Whilst I don’t see Alexander winning 10 to 12 rounds the Khan did, I do see him putting in a fairly dominant performance and winning a comfortable decision.
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Thanks Robby. Great job....
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