what deductions does a boxer have from his purse?
what deductions does a boxer have from his purse?
just read the paul appleby post saw that he got 75k according to posters for his fight with lindsay i think, which seemed an awful lot- wondered what deductions he would of got from it and then wondered if anyone had any examples of purse stories or personal experience they would like to share.
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funso banjo baby
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Re: what deductions does a boxer have from his purse?
that sounds huge
Re: what deductions does a boxer have from his purse?
7.5k maybe.
If you fought for DK you could expect a lot of deductions.
If you fought for DK you could expect a lot of deductions.
Re: what deductions does a boxer have from his purse?
A then record (not sure if it still is?).... its the price it took for Hayemaker to get a home title challenge for Lindsay.funso banjo baby wrote:that sounds huge
Re: what deductions does a boxer have from his purse?
Depends if they fight for a straight up purse, get a barrow load of tickets on top to sell themselves etc.
Deductions are usually for trainer, training camp fees (flights, hotels etc if abroad) and sometimes manager gets a % too unless they are promoting the show.
Deductions are usually for trainer, training camp fees (flights, hotels etc if abroad) and sometimes manager gets a % too unless they are promoting the show.
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lefty
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Re: what deductions does a boxer have from his purse?
A manager would still get a % even if he was promoting the show wouldnt he?!Even if he's promoting and managing the fighter surely he'd still be entitled to a fee as the fighters manager?G0mez wrote:Depends if they fight for a straight up purse, get a barrow load of tickets on top to sell themselves etc.
Deductions are usually for trainer, training camp fees (flights, hotels etc if abroad) and sometimes manager gets a % too unless they are promoting the show.
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Not really that would be double dipping wouldn't it. Manager and Promoter ought to be incentivised very differently.lefty wrote:A manager would still get a % even if he was promoting the show wouldnt he?!Even if he's promoting and managing the fighter surely he'd still be entitled to a fee as the fighters manager?
Allededly apparently only took the manager % from Calzaghe on the one show he didn't promote
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lefty
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Re: what deductions does a boxer have from his purse?
Yeah but if you're promoting and managing then arent you doing two roles still and thus should be payed for both roles?chinny wrote:Not really that would be double dipping wouldn't it. Manager and Promoter ought to be incentivised very differently.lefty wrote:A manager would still get a % even if he was promoting the show wouldnt he?!Even if he's promoting and managing the fighter surely he'd still be entitled to a fee as the fighters manager?
Allededly apparently only took the manager % from Calzaghe on the one show he didn't promote
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Londonirish
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Re: what deductions does a boxer have from his purse?
lefty wrote:Yeah but if you're promoting and managing then arent you doing two roles still and thus should be payed for both roles?chinny wrote:Not really that would be double dipping wouldn't it. Manager and Promoter ought to be incentivised very differently.lefty wrote:A manager would still get a % even if he was promoting the show wouldnt he?!Even if he's promoting and managing the fighter surely he'd still be entitled to a fee as the fighters manager?
Allededly apparently only took the manager % from Calzaghe on the one show he didn't promote
Frank M those Both Manage and Promote me and dont take a Panny...
Trainer 10% unless but i think if its over 25k then you can negociate where it can be less. 4% BBBC Tax. Manager can get from 10%-25% but you take out all expensive's before you pay your Manager, Training Camp, expensive's, cuts man etc
Re: what deductions does a boxer have from his purse?
A friend of mine boxed for a manager who would take 17.5% VAT from his fighters though he would be able to reclaim at the end of the year. He would also deduce a flat fee of £100 from each boxers purse for travel expenses etc and overnight hotel stays (even if no stay were needed).
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Then at the other end of the scale you have the likes of Rushton making up a flask of tea and wrapping some ham sandwiches in clingfilm for later.
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Frankie Gavin
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Re: what deductions does a boxer have from his purse?
Warren only takes manager fees if ur on another promoters show then trainer ten per cent board tax four per cent an ur cut man.orbtastic wrote:Then at the other end of the scale you have the likes of Rushton making up a flask of tea and wrapping some ham sandwiches in clingfilm for later.
Re: what deductions does a boxer have from his purse?
I don't agree with fighters negotiating the trainer's 10%
When you turn over, you know the score. The trainer gets 10% of your fight earnings.
When negotiating a purse your 'walk away' figure should be in your head minus trainer, cutsman, sparring, expenses and taxes.
To all of a sudden say to a trainer, "right, you've been with me from day one, got me to this level where I am earning loads - now take this or f*ck off!"
Just my opinion obviously like.
My manager has never took a penny from me.
When you turn over, you know the score. The trainer gets 10% of your fight earnings.
When negotiating a purse your 'walk away' figure should be in your head minus trainer, cutsman, sparring, expenses and taxes.
To all of a sudden say to a trainer, "right, you've been with me from day one, got me to this level where I am earning loads - now take this or f*ck off!"
Just my opinion obviously like.
My manager has never took a penny from me.
Re: what deductions does a boxer have from his purse?
I'll be honest a good trainer is worth more than the 10% they get!!! They put in an awful lot of work and 90% of them end up with fornicate all or worse yet end up losing through boxing as they can't work full time.. They really have to strike it lucky and find a potential world champion cos if they don't they'll just end up dead broke.. ![[icon_e_sad.gif] :verysad:](./images/smilies/icon_e_sad.gif)
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lefty
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Re: what deductions does a boxer have from his purse?
Cheers for clearing that up FrankieFrankie Gavin wrote:Warren only takes manager fees if ur on another promoters show then trainer ten per cent board tax four per cent an ur cut man.orbtastic wrote:Then at the other end of the scale you have the likes of Rushton making up a flask of tea and wrapping some ham sandwiches in clingfilm for later.
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Old bones Ian
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Re: what deductions does a boxer have from his purse?
Question for the boxers here, do you get tapped up by trainers or managers trying to get you to move to their camp?
just wondering if it gets like that.
just wondering if it gets like that.
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lefty
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Re: what deductions does a boxer have from his purse?
Why does your manager bother doing it then?Obviously some people love boxing and any opportunity to be involved they'd take but on the whole you'd think people would wanna be payed for representing you otherwise whats the incentive?!Smigga wrote:I don't agree with fighters negotiating the trainer's 10%
When you turn over, you know the score. The trainer gets 10% of your fight earnings.
When negotiating a purse your 'walk away' figure should be in your head minus trainer, cutsman, sparring, expenses and taxes.
To all of a sudden say to a trainer, "right, you've been with me from day one, got me to this level where I am earning loads - now take this or f*ck off!"![]()
Just my opinion obviously like.
My manager has never took a penny from me.
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mickey1975
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Re: what deductions does a boxer have from his purse?
Not sure,but i would imagine his manager is Fwank and he will make his money through the promotion.lefty wrote:Why does your manager bother doing it then?Obviously some people love boxing and any opportunity to be involved they'd take but on the whole you'd think people would wanna be payed for representing you otherwise whats the incentive?!Smigga wrote:I don't agree with fighters negotiating the trainer's 10%
When you turn over, you know the score. The trainer gets 10% of your fight earnings.
When negotiating a purse your 'walk away' figure should be in your head minus trainer, cutsman, sparring, expenses and taxes.
To all of a sudden say to a trainer, "right, you've been with me from day one, got me to this level where I am earning loads - now take this or f*ck off!"![]()
Just my opinion obviously like.
My manager has never took a penny from me.
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lefty
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Re: what deductions does a boxer have from his purse?
Ah okmickey1975 wrote:Not sure,but i would imagine his manager is Fwank and he will make his money through the promotion.lefty wrote:Why does your manager bother doing it then?Obviously some people love boxing and any opportunity to be involved they'd take but on the whole you'd think people would wanna be payed for representing you otherwise whats the incentive?!Smigga wrote:I don't agree with fighters negotiating the trainer's 10%
When you turn over, you know the score. The trainer gets 10% of your fight earnings.
When negotiating a purse your 'walk away' figure should be in your head minus trainer, cutsman, sparring, expenses and taxes.
To all of a sudden say to a trainer, "right, you've been with me from day one, got me to this level where I am earning loads - now take this or f*ck off!"![]()
Just my opinion obviously like.
My manager has never took a penny from me.
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Londonirish
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Re: what deductions does a boxer have from his purse?
Smigga wrote:I don't agree with fighters negotiating the trainer's 10%
When you turn over, you know the score. The trainer gets 10% of your fight earnings.
When negotiating a purse your 'walk away' figure should be in your head minus trainer, cutsman, sparring, expenses and taxes.
To all of a sudden say to a trainer, "right, you've been with me from day one, got me to this level where I am earning loads - now take this or f*ck off!".
Your spot opn mate..............
Re: what deductions does a boxer have from his purse?
Ian, I once asked my lot why dont people ask you to go with them. They all looked at me started Laugthing, were asked twice a week, felt a right Burke. 
Re: what deductions does a boxer have from his purse?
A good trainer wouldn't have to ask, the boxer would just go there if it was right for him.Old bones Ian wrote:Question for the boxers here, do you get tapped up by trainers or managers trying to get you to move to their camp?
just wondering if it gets like that.
Just my opinion of course
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billy nelson
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Re: what deductions does a boxer have from his purse?
X2Smigga wrote:A good trainer wouldn't have to ask, the boxer would just go there if it was right for him.Old bones Ian wrote:Question for the boxers here, do you get tapped up by trainers or managers trying to get you to move to their camp?
just wondering if it gets like that.
Just my opinion of course
Re: what deductions does a boxer have from his purse?
For the likes of Tony and Frankie on here, what would you shell out for someone like Mick Williamson to be in your corner for the night? Just curious, as he's not a guy that's going to be in the gym with you every day, but could make a huge difference on fight night, as it were.
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mickey1975
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Re: what deductions does a boxer have from his purse?
I dont think he is expensive.Im sure i remember reading he was only on a few hundred quid even at the top level with Hatton.Obviously his expenses will be taken care of as well.states wrote:For the likes of Tony and Frankie on here, what would you shell out for someone like Mick Williamson to be in your corner for the night? Just curious, as he's not a guy that's going to be in the gym with you every day, but could make a huge difference on fight night, as it were.