Barker - 'Macklin's not in my league'

[bigh]

6 rounds to 6 on barkers last fight u having a laugh......i was sat ringside i recon he won nearly every round maybe draw a couple near the end......any other barker fight ulot seen then.....and wat a surprise the moore macklin fight gets mentioned again.

[mickey1975]

6 rounds to 6 on barkers last fight u having a laugh......i was sat ringside i recon he won nearly every round maybe draw a couple near the end......any other barker fight ulot seen then.....and wat a surprise the moore macklin fight gets mentioned again.

I saw him fight Paul Samuels when the ref helped him out....

[Barry big balz]

did darren barker really struggle last time out......he wasnt at his best but i wouldnt say he struggled he won nearly every round on the score cards.....and why does everyone love jamie moore on here is because he posts here? wat fights have ulot actually seen of barkers to say hes nothing special?

The scorecards were bullshit nobody can doubt that. I know i said belghecham won but ive since seen it 3 times and it was a draw 6 rounds to barker and 6 to belghecham. Barker gassed badly after 6 and ran for the rest of the fight. Belghecham finished the much stronger man. Jim watt said it was a good thing belghecham couldnt punch and i agree.

I also agree. Andy Lee would have been KOd again if belgecham could punch. Lee is also lucky that he didn't have to go 12 with belgecham like Barker did.

Out of Hassan ndam njikam , Barker and lee, lee was the only one who could genuinely hurt belghecham and keep him in his shell for 9 rounds without throwing barely 3 punches a round at lee and landing nothing. Belghecham had zero respect for the light punching barker and hit him repeatedly with combinations for the whole fight .
Lee took a lovely punch in the last 10 seconds and held belghecham. I was ringside at the fight and he wasnt really hurt and his legs didnt buckle in the slightest but he did the smart thing, cant ask anymore.
I have no doubt in my mind that lee is much better than barker in every way and time will prove me right.
Barker wont get past macklin he just doesnt have the strength or power to deal with macklin.

[Counter-puncher]

and wat a surprise the moore macklin fight gets mentioned again.

so you weren't impressed by this fight i take it?

[Autobarn]

bigh seems to be totally unreasonable. i don't think jamie moore will object to any of us saying he was a shot fighter in his last fight. bigh (lirva?) seemed to be having a go at moore for losing a fight when he was on the way out, comparing him to a prime barker who struggled in his last fight and was maybe fortunate to get the decision.

just ignore him.

[slapbangwhallop]

6 rounds to 6 on barkers last fight u having a laugh......i was sat ringside i recon he won nearly every round maybe draw a couple near the end......any other barker fight ulot seen then.....and wat a surprise the moore macklin fight gets mentioned again.

I saw him fight Paul Samuels when the ref helped him out....

That was a disgrace - at least a DQ if not a NC!

I also saw him against McIntosh!

[bigh]

why do u keep goin on about big punchers.....barkers a skillfull boxer...technically a excellent boxer barkers got a excellent boxing brain a real thinker.....he can punch aswell if need be hes the only boxer ever to put darren mcdermott on his arse.

[whiskey]

Out of Hassan ndam njikam , Barker and lee, lee was the only one who could genuinely hurt belghecham and keep him in his shell for 9 rounds without throwing barely 3 punches a round at lee and landing nothing. Belghecham had zero respect for the light punching barker and hit him repeatedly with combinations for the whole fight .
Lee took a lovely punch in the last 10 seconds and held belghecham. I was ringside at the fight and he wasnt really hurt and his legs didnt buckle in the slightest but he did the smart thing, cant ask anymore.
I have no doubt in my mind that lee is much better than barker in every way and time will prove me right.
Barker wont get past macklin he just doesnt have the strength or power to deal with macklin.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=n5AIZ9q_Hlc

Ive seen the fight myself and Andy Lee is very fortunate it wasn't a 12 round fight.

He was totally dead to the world in the 10th.

Neither Lee nor Barker were made to look good by the Frenchie.

[Barry big balz]

why do u keep goin on about big punchers.....barkers a skillfull boxer...technically a excellent boxer barkers got a excellent boxing brain a real thinker.....he can punch aswell if need be hes the only boxer ever to put darren mcdermott on his arse.

Skillful boxers dont allow the likes of belghecham to run off combinations at will. Theres nothing slick about barker hes there to be hit and he is easily bullied. Hes had it easy and Macklin will show you and everyone what happens when you match your prospects easy. Its going go down something like Pirog vs Jacobs were the inexperience will show and the pressure will be to much.

[Barry big balz]

Out of Hassan ndam njikam , Barker and lee, lee was the only one who could genuinely hurt belghecham and keep him in his shell for 9 rounds without throwing barely 3 punches a round at lee and landing nothing. Belghecham had zero respect for the light punching barker and hit him repeatedly with combinations for the whole fight .
Lee took a lovely punch in the last 10 seconds and held belghecham. I was ringside at the fight and he wasnt really hurt and his legs didnt buckle in the slightest but he did the smart thing, cant ask anymore.
I have no doubt in my mind that lee is much better than barker in every way and time will prove me right.
Barker wont get past macklin he just doesnt have the strength or power to deal with macklin.

He was totally dead to the world in the 10th.
Im sure andy would of trained for a 12 round fight if it was 12 round fight and not a 10 round fight. Barker was finished round 7 and could of been knocked out many times.
I was at the lee vs belghecham fight and there wasnt a chance in hell lee was going down trust me.

[Autobarn]

6 rounds to 6 on barkers last fight u having a laugh......i was sat ringside i recon he won nearly every round maybe draw a couple near the end......any other barker fight ulot seen then.....and wat a surprise the moore macklin fight gets mentioned again.

I saw him fight Paul Samuels when the ref helped him out....

That was a disgrace - at least a DQ if not a NC!

I also saw him against McIntosh!

you can't fault barker for getting up and firing back though can you?

barker is getting a bit too much stick, myself and others focusing too much on the belgecham fight.

barker is good and will have better preparation for macklin. these 2 have something to fight for, on a great fight card, so hopefully their contrasting styles will make for a memorable fight - whoever wins.

if barker can beat macklin, then it is seriously going to make up for his shaky showing vs belgecham.

one thing that pisses me off. ppl spend more time whining about scoring - in fights like barker-belgecham, and last weekend's cloud-johnson/alexander-kotelnik - than beig pleased to watch very hard fought, entertaining 12 rounders.

[slapbangwhallop]

I saw him fight Paul Samuels when the ref helped him out....

That was a disgrace - at least a DQ if not a NC!

I also saw him against McIntosh!

you can't fault barker for getting up and firing back though can you?

barker is getting a bit too much stick, myself and others focusing too much on the belgecham fight.

barker is good and will have better preparation for macklin. these 2 have something to fight for, on a great fight card, so hopefully their contrasting styles will make for a memorable fight - whoever wins.

if barker can beat macklin, then it is seriously going to make up for his shaky showing vs belgecham.

one thing that pisses me off. ppl spend more time whining about scoring - in fights like barker-belgecham, and last weekend's cloud-johnson/alexander-kotelnik - than beig pleased to watch very hard fought, entertaining 12 rounders.

Barker threw the knockout punch after Dodgy David called 'stop'. So yes you can fault Barker - because Samuels was about to throw a punch but didnt when he heard stop.

You can also fault Parris for gifting Barker a KO victory for an illegal punch.

They are facts not opinions.

[Autobarn]

barker got up and fired back with samuels in his face. in the heat of the moment you can't exactly make calculated decisions.

it's natural to be critical of barker on here, but isn't it a coincidence that the other brit to get hammered on here is rendall munroe. it's bordering on the obsessive - any close fight they're in and they got a lucky decision, and controversy and they're a disgrace. yawn.

what do these 2 have in common, whose wrath have they been struck by because they wanted to fight a certain couple of fighters?

[bigh]

protect urself at all times!!!! cant wait to come bak on here after the macklin fight and prove to ulot just how good barker really is!!!!! u dnt win 20 odd fights if ur not good do ya!!!!

[potnoodle]

If Barker trains as hard as he ever has and puts in the performance, he will win. I just see Barker as a better al-round boxer. He needs to keep Macklin at bay, dont let him rush in with big shots. I hope for a great fight and a Barker win.

One more thing.... Why are we being negative about Barkers old fights??? Everyone learns from there 1st 10-15 fights!!! Didnt Manny Pacquiao lose in his 10th fight? Why not talk about the Mcdermott, Bendall or sharp fight??? Hasnt Macklin had some bad days?? Luis Ramon Campas didnt he win by 3 rounds? and Geard Ajetovic also by 3rounds??? They shouldnt have been that close, Pirog and geale both beat Ajetovic UD? Remember we ALL have off days.....

[Autobarn]

good point. macklin wasn't a hot fighter until the elcock and asikainen fights. until then he was a nearly man. afterwards it was very different, but before that he was disappointing, apart from the thrilling moore fight.

[slapbangwhallop]

barker got up and fired back with samuels in his face. in the heat of the moment you can't exactly make calculated decisions.

it's natural to be critical of barker on here, but isn't it a coincidence that the other brit to get hammered on here is rendall munroe. it's bordering on the obsessive - any close fight they're in and they got a lucky decision, and controversy and they're a disgrace. yawn.

what do these 2 have in common, whose wrath have they been struck by because they wanted to fight a certain couple of fighters?

"shush down" you "jester"!

A. I've never said a word about Munroe. Who "hammers Murnoe"? What did they say?

B. So if I am critical of a fighter its because he is British? Is that what you are saying because I am finding it hard to sift through your effluent.

Are you saying that Barker should have been award a KO victory in the Samuels fight, a simple yes or no will do!

[markp]

barker got up and fired back with samuels in his face. in the heat of the moment you can't exactly make calculated decisions.

it's natural to be critical of barker on here, but isn't it a coincidence that the other brit to get hammered on here is rendall munroe. it's bordering on the obsessive - any close fight they're in and they got a lucky decision, and controversy and they're a disgrace. yawn.

what do these 2 have in common, whose wrath have they been struck by because they wanted to fight a certain couple of fighters?

"shush down" you "jester"!

A. I've never said a word about Munroe. Who "hammers Murnoe"? What did they say?

B. So if I am critical of a fighter its because he is British? Is that what you are saying because I am finding it hard to sift through your effluent.

Are you saying that Barker should have been award a KO victory in the Samuels fight, a simple yes or no will do!

Yes he should have. Parris was incompetent, it wasn't his fault. Parris should have stepped in sooner. Samuels should have either kept his hands up or stopped coming forward when Parris shouted "Stop boxing" himself. They could have offered Samuels 5 minutes recovery time or even called it a no-contest but personally I think barker deserved to be called the winner.

[slapbangwhallop]

barker got up and fired back with samuels in his face. in the heat of the moment you can't exactly make calculated decisions.

it's natural to be critical of barker on here, but isn't it a coincidence that the other brit to get hammered on here is rendall munroe. it's bordering on the obsessive - any close fight they're in and they got a lucky decision, and controversy and they're a disgrace. yawn.

what do these 2 have in common, whose wrath have they been struck by because they wanted to fight a certain couple of fighters?

"shush down" you "jester"!

A. I've never said a word about Munroe. Who "hammers Murnoe"? What did they say?

B. So if I am critical of a fighter its because he is British? Is that what you are saying because I am finding it hard to sift through your effluent.

Are you saying that Barker should have been award a KO victory in the Samuels fight, a simple yes or no will do!

Yes he should have. Parris was incompetent, it wasn't his fault. Parris should have stepped in sooner. Samuels should have either kept his hands up or stopped coming forward when Parris shouted "Stop boxing" himself. They could have offered Samuels 5 minutes recovery time or even called it a no-contest but personally I think barker deserved to be called the winner.

Wow! - thats all I can say after reading that post, and they say the Irish are biased! I'll exit this thread until the Ignoranc-o-meter drops back below 1,000!

[markp]

Well why don't you postulate on what you think should have happened. A DQ for Barker?

[J]

"shush down" you "jester"!

A. I've never said a word about Munroe. Who "hammers Murnoe"? What did they say?

B. So if I am critical of a fighter its because he is British? Is that what you are saying because I am finding it hard to sift through your effluent.

Are you saying that Barker should have been award a KO victory in the Samuels fight, a simple yes or no will do!

Yes he should have. Parris was incompetent, it wasn't his fault. Parris should have stepped in sooner. Samuels should have either kept his hands up or stopped coming forward when Parris shouted "Stop boxing" himself. They could have offered Samuels 5 minutes recovery time or even called it a no-contest but personally I think barker deserved to be called the winner.

Wow! - thats all I can say after reading that post, and they say the Irish are biased! I'll exit this thread until the Ignoranc-o-meter drops back below 1,000!

jesus christ man, does everything have to turn into an anti irish theme?

lose the fuckin chip on BOTH shoulders.

[slapbangwhallop]

Yes he should have. Parris was incompetent, it wasn't his fault. Parris should have stepped in sooner. Samuels should have either kept his hands up or stopped coming forward when Parris shouted "Stop boxing" himself. They could have offered Samuels 5 minutes recovery time or even called it a no-contest but personally I think barker deserved to be called the winner.

Wow! - thats all I can say after reading that post, and they say the Irish are biased! I'll exit this thread until the Ignoranc-o-meter drops back below 1,000!

jesus christ man, does everything have to turn into an anti irish theme?

lose the fuckin chip on BOTH shoulders.

Eh it was Autobarn that brought up the Irish issue - interesting you never said a word then?

Who mentioned "anti-Irish" anyway

[J]

dont play the innocent card here sunshine you know exactly what you are doing and actually you are doing more to damage irish anglo relations on this board stirring it up then acting like the victim .

(Edited by mod - personal insults)

[slapbangwhallop]

dont play the innocent card here sunshine you know exactly what you are doing and actually you are doing more to damage irish anglo relations on this board stirring it up then acting like the victim .

tedious odious turd. change the frikkin record.

ZZzzzzzzzz!!! sorry if playing the "innocent card" includes pointing out that two posts before your post accusing me of making this "an Irish thing" a British poster................actually whatever! enjoy!

[slapbangwhallop]

Well why don't you postulate on what you think should have happened. A DQ for Barker?

What do you think should happen if a fighter throws a punch that knocksout his opponent AFTER the referee has called to stop boxing?