Hatton in good shape already?

Tantum · Post by **Tantum** » 20 Apr 2005, 13:47

Yes, the sled is included in those weights above, 250lbs is 160lb sled + 90lb weights, and so forth.

JimStone · Post by **JimStone** » 20 Apr 2005, 13:50

What was your bodyweight at that time?

Tantum · Post by **Tantum** » 20 Apr 2005, 13:53

200lbs (about 19-24% body fat though)

I'm the same height as Hatton.

JimStone · Post by **JimStone** » 20 Apr 2005, 13:55

Did you compete in any sports? If you didn't you should have.

Tantum · Post by **Tantum** » 20 Apr 2005, 13:57

No... I haven't competed in anything seriously.

I'm still young though. :P

JimStone · Post by **JimStone** » 20 Apr 2005, 13:58

How young?

Tantum · Post by **Tantum** » 20 Apr 2005, 13:58

josh fg · Post by **josh fg** » 20 Apr 2005, 13:59

KOJOE90 wrote:
topper123 wrote:As asked earlier, anyone know who Hatton has as his sparring partners?

hopefully he's getting some top class ones in to sharpen up on
Didn't he say on the BBC last week that he was getting in some top Europeans for sparring? Whatever that means.

Dosen't sound that promicing esspecially as we have all seen further down how sereousely Tsue is taking his sparing Hattons opponents need to be at least as good. IMO he needs to get some names in their against him otherwise he just will not be at the races

JimStone · Post by **JimStone** » 20 Apr 2005, 14:00

Tantum wrote:21

How old were you when you were doing the workout you mentioned above?

Tantum · Post by **Tantum** » 20 Apr 2005, 14:01

19

I doubt I could do it right now... Been away from my routines lately... Would probably take me a few months to get back to that level.

knockout · Post by **knockout** » 20 Apr 2005, 14:08

dude, that leg work out is serious over training

Tantum · Post by **Tantum** » 20 Apr 2005, 14:09

Not if you give yourself time to rest, and I always did/do.

There's overburning, and over training.... Overburning is working yourself to the limit, which raises your endurance, but it's risky w/o proper nutrition and rest periods. Over training is constantly working yourself, even if your muscles haven't finished healing yet... Which ends up causing a decline in performance.

JimStone · Post by **JimStone** » 20 Apr 2005, 14:14

Tantum, I really want to believe you could do that session but I can't. If I'm wrong I apologise, but people come out with garbage on the internet all the time and that workout seems to have too much volume to be do-able (especially by a 19-year-old).

If you're genuine you should do something with that ability.

Tantum · Post by **Tantum** » 20 Apr 2005, 14:30

Well, it was about 1500 reps, which took a long time to complete... About an hour and a half, maybe a little more.

Let's see... I started at about 1000 reps... Which took about 55 minutes.

Strict diet, lots of complex carbs, lots of protein, very little simple sugar (cane sugar, corn syrup) and fats, no red meat either, all fish and chicken.

Dedication and will power... And tons of energy.

No super man here.

silkov · Post by **silkov** » 20 Apr 2005, 14:56

Yeah but read between the lines of what he's said recently and he's already getting the excuses ready... this has been his 'longest lay off' and he has been 'training longer than ever before' and he doesn't want to 'peak too soon!' uh oh! I feel a cold coming on!!!...... 8)

REAL_DEAL · Post by **REAL_DEAL** » 20 Apr 2005, 14:58

FlawedGenius wrote:Tantum, I really want to believe you could do that session but I can't. If I'm wrong I apologise, but people come out with garbage on the internet all the time and that workout seems to have too much volume to be do-able (especially by a 19-year-old).

If you're genuine you should do something with that ability.

i can fly and live on mars, i am harder than you, yer what ever :P

Max Molyneux · Post by **Max Molyneux** » 20 Apr 2005, 18:02

Will Hatton be too big to be a Light Welter eventually?

Sounds like hes burnt off that weight too quickly.

JC · Post by JC » 20 Apr 2005, 18:22

I don't think it's that Hatton is too big for light welter the problem seems to be the amout of weight he puts on between fights and then has to lose in a short space of time. I think he's just of the body type that means he will get fat when not training.

He does often look very drained at the weigh ins, but I'm not sure if thats just cos he likes to come in as heavy as he can get away with come fight time. He'd be fairly short even for the welter division, though I wouldn't move out a move up eventually. I'm sure he and his trainers know what they are doing, and he always looks in good shape for his fights.

Tantum · Post by **Tantum** » 20 Apr 2005, 18:24

The top welters are 5'6.5" to 5'9.5"

Hatton is 5'7.5"... So he'd be fine at 147 height wise.

stujones · Post by **stujones** » 20 Apr 2005, 18:27

J-C wrote:I don't think it's that Hatton is too big for light welter the problem seems to be the amout of weight he puts on between fights and then has to lose in a short space of time. I think he's just of the body type that means he will get fat when not training.

When he is not blessed with that body type, then he has GOT to look after himself a bit better. From what I have heard, when Ricky is resting he is not looking after himself in a nutritional sense. When I realised that Guiness is his choice beverage then it is notorious for weight gain.

I'm not saying he should live the life of a saint and not rest up (because he fights hard he needs to charge up the batteries) but he should watch his diet - not go to extremes. However, I get the impression he does go to extremes...... the wrong extremes.

Max Molyneux · Post by **Max Molyneux** » 20 Apr 2005, 18:30

If he never had a nutritionist all that weight he puts on could of made him move up in weight though when he gets to his later years.

JC · Post by JC » 20 Apr 2005, 18:35

You right he should def be doing more to stay in shape between fights. especially if he wants to have a long career he needs to stay in shape all the time. But I can't really see him having that long a career anyway, taking his fighting style and tendancy to cut into account I could see him retiring in his late 20s a la McGuigan. But with his build he's not helping himself if the reports of weight gain between fights are true.

stujones · Post by **stujones** » 20 Apr 2005, 18:48

All he needs to do is expend more calories than he is putting in. Simple and easy to do.

He doesn't have to do much exercise - just when he doesn't, don't eat/drink much either.

If he does want a session with the lads - go for a run beforehand (it gets you drunk quicker aswell!).

Its not hard to maintain - you don't have to be a monk to do that.

states · Post by **states** » 20 Apr 2005, 19:30

I do think Hatton comes in for some unfair stick at times. Clearly, the way he is, he's not going to have much of a career past 30. But given his all-out attack style, that'd probably be the same even if he lived the life like, say, Hopkins. And after all, despite the fact that we've all (rightly, I suppose) cricised his opponents/career to date, he's made the money to allow himself to have a few years at the very top, without having to worry about cash when he starts sliding.

Don't get me wrong, I don't think it's good for a supposedly world-class fighter to be blowing up to the extent that Hatton does. I certainly don't think that someone at his level should be spending time in the gym working off beer weight. And I agree that he could be making life easier for himself.

But he's not going to change now, I wouldn't have thought. And I tend to believe him, when he says that his body just goes that way: Some people do. I hate to use anectodal evidence, but my brother can balloon, without even eating that much, but the weight also comes off easier than you'd think. I'm sure this is the case with Hatton: I mean, he looked like Skeletor for the Olivera fight, and then looked about 13 stone for the Showtime link-up. I'm sure he was enjoying himself inbetween, but c'mon, think to yourself: How much of the good life would you yourself have to be having to put on that much weight in a couple of months?

Also, I always think that Hatton has a very round face at the best of times, which can always make a guy look like he weighs more than he really does. And when has he ever been out of shape? Vilches, I guess. No doubt it'll catch up with him someday, but I have to say I worry more about someone like Scott Harrison, who seems to be killing himself to make an unnatural weight. In an ideal world, I'd love Hatton to train like Jim McDonnell, because I figure any professional athlete should recognise that their body is their living, but it's not always the case, so if Hatton feels best working himself into shape after a few months off, well, it's his choice.

Still think Tszyu wins inside 6, but I certainly don't think it'll be because of conditioning.