RAF INTO HALL OF FAME

[Sweet P]

Now that the new season is starting. Its time to Vote on the Biggest Star of the last season.

[Marlin]

Yes

[JDC]

Yes

On reflection I am changing my vote. Now that the season is definately over we have to go by what happened. As much as I didn't want to admit it Marquez was outstanding.

I'm still bitter that Kilbane didn't get his chance to though

['Frilla]

yay

[hitman09]

No. And hf doesn't get a vote. 8)

['Frilla]

No. And hf doesn't get a vote. 8)

why is that bud?

Too harsh promotionz is back!!!

[jBacca]

No offence but p4p1 decides whether to hold a vote about whether he goes on. This completely undermines him and I think you are a noob.

[Deno1986]

I voted no as we only completed a 20 week fight season.

[glittermonkey]

Another vote? Didn't we just have this a while back?

Nothing's changed. It's still a no from me.

[hitman09]

No. And hf doesn't get a vote. 8)

why is that bud?

Too harsh promotionz is back!!!

Because you weren't in the Sim that season D
Mainly cos you voted yes

[Crease]

I have to say a resounding NO.

Raf Marquez's record was impressive, I will give you that.

But the Hall of Fame has to maintain a certain calibre, and I would not say that Marquez has done as much as what Fox, Spinks or even Moore.

And firstly, his achievements:
x2 time IBF Champion (Original IBF Champ)
x1 time Ring Magazine Champion (Original Ring Champ)
Greatest win ratio: 90% 18 wins out of 20 fights
Keeps IBF title as he is the last Champ.

I don't think they warrant a Hall Of Fame entry... Because basically he's just a 2 time IBF Champion.

Secondly, Marquez was never the undisputed number one...
Guys like Arguello (and later Pep) challenged him for that accolade.

And I honestly don't hink a fighter should be put into the HOF if he wasn't the clear number one.

[Crease]

Quotes from other Managers with excellent points.

Fighting bums and refusing to unify sure as hell won't get you in.

If you think that you will get a yes vote with a fighter who has never unified, refused to fight the best fighters and takes delight in the fact he is fighting a "bum a week" then you must be crazy fool.

My vote's no on Marquez. Too much ducking, and ducking at crucial times too. You shouldn't be rewarded for sitting on your ranking by fighting bums or CPU fighters.

Somethings to consider.

[Crease]

And lastly a classic quote from JDC:

If Marquez gets in now I know what I'll be doing next season

I assume you mean taking the "Ben K route" and fighting cpu fighters...

[Crease]

What message will we be sending out if we include Raf into the Hall of Fame?

1. It's okay to fight CPU fighters, when top contenders have called you out.

2. It's okay REFUSING to enter a unification fight.

3. It's perfectly acceptable to invent titles whenever you want and rate them more highly than the 4 bodies (WBC, WBA, WBO, IBF).

4. Having a high win ratio is everything! Even if you fight bums.

Think about it guys, Maruqez into the Hall Of Fame is a bad idea.

[hitman09]

There's a post whoring thread in OS etc. if you want to bump your post count, crease. Elsewhere, just put it all in one post, rather than 4 consecutive ones.

[Grimm]

Meh, why not

[BossTycoon]

we've already voted on this. the people have spoken.

[BoxBuzz]

Someone should make it from this season. But only one.

I would say he's the leading candidate. Though by a bit of luck ala TJF.

I vote aye.

[kevo]

No offence but p4p1 decides whether to hold a vote about whether he goes on. This completely undermines him and I think you are a noob.

Agree 100%

[BoxBuzz]

No offence but p4p1 decides whether to hold a vote about whether he goes on. This completely undermines him and I think you are a noob.

Agree 100%

Ah yes, I was drawn into the drama.....this is an unofficial query at best.

[armageto]

Si

[Crease]

Someone should make it from this season.

Why is that 'Buzz, it was a half season if anything... Marquez doesn't deserve a HOF place.

[BoxBuzz]

You are of course too noob to remember that we have indeed had other interrupted seasons within the rich history of this honorable institution. You'd know that if you had only read your sim history.

One commish attempted to profit from his effort. Incomplete season
One commish died tragically in a freak electrical event....Incomplete Season
Neri was the first if I recall to reach the finish line in a great milestone of Sim History I believe he did it twice.
MatthewS......gave up mid season due to a mid life crises.
Tzyu has had both finished and unfinished seasons. Though he is fast becoming the Lance Armstrong of Sim Commissioning.

And You? You remain remarkable Noobish in both your grasp of history and your rash judgment.

Hit the books, become less "self centered" be a team player and do not allow your fleeting sim fame to go to your head. Keep in mind that your last season was very very lackluster. Best to work on technique and strategy, and stay clear of the grown ups table when items of simulated consequence are being discussed.

[Marlin]

Once again Buzz tells it like it is

['Frilla]

No. And hf doesn't get a vote. 8)

why is that bud?

Too harsh promotionz is back!!!

Because you weren't in the Sim that season D
Mainly cos you voted yes

Meh, i was paid to vote yes :P