Bad coaches

[Bolo]

I just want to shed some light on bad coaches, I been reading alot about how bad officials are, come on! There are a few that shouldn't be doing it cause they have one thing on their mind and that is themself but you must give it to them, to sit there and deal with all those crying grown men. As for me I was a boxer that stopped boxing because a bad coach that didn't care about my safety at all, I mean I'm not the best boxer or a national champion in fact I never been to a national tourny, coaches please keep in mind that those kid go home to their parents and y'all go home the family is who deals with them after all is said and done. I was hurt real bad in a fight cause my coach was an oldschool caveman that should of not been working with anyone, but I didn't know no better, I looked at him like a father but he didn't treat me like a son instead I was over matched in a fight that I shouldn't have been in, like he said,"oh you a fighter you gotta have balls I don't train pussy we fight who ever" I only had 5 fight and he put me in there with a guy that had well over 50 fights, I know you get better fighting better guys and you learn from that, I didn't learn crap the only thing I got out of that fight was a erupted ear drum,a dislocated jaw and a broking rib, that was when I was 13 so when I read about kids fainting, collapsing and being dehydrated it only makes me think of how bad that coach is! I need boxing, it really helped me stay off the streets. To all boxers if you have a caveman coach leave now, you have every right too and to the coaches if you a caveman here's what could happen, my family sued my ex coach and won. Don't think it can't happen to you! Thank you every one for your time.

[JMac]

I just want to shed some light on bad coaches, I been reading alot about how bad officials are, come on! There are a few that shouldn't be doing it cause they have one thing on their mind and that is themself but you must give it to them, to sit there and deal with all those crying grown men. As for me I was a boxer that stopped boxing because a bad coach that didn't care about my safety at all, I mean I'm not the best boxer or a national champion in fact I never been to a national tourny, coaches please keep in mind that those kid go home to their parents and y'all go home the family is who deals with them after all is said and done. I was hurt real bad in a fight cause my coach was an oldschool caveman that should of not been working with anyone, but I didn't know no better, I looked at him like a father but he didn't treat me like a son instead I was over matched in a fight that I shouldn't have been in, like he said,"oh you a fighter you gotta have balls I don't train pussy we fight who ever" I only had 5 fight and he put me in there with a guy that had well over 50 fights, I know you get better fighting better guys and you learn from that, I didn't learn crap the only thing I got out of that fight was a erupted ear drum,a dislocated jaw and a broking rib, that was when I was 13 so when I read about kids fainting, collapsing and being dehydrated it only makes me think of how bad that coach is! I need boxing, it really helped me stay off the streets. To all boxers if you have a caveman coach leave now, you have every right too and to the coaches if you a caveman here's what could happen, my family sued my ex coach and won. Don't think it can't happen to you! Thank you every one for your time.

What your coach did was wrong big time. But not only did he fail you, so did the head official for letting that bout go on. You are right, there are bad coaches just like there are bad officials. In a sport like boxing, which is run by volunteers, it doesn't take much to be certified to coach or officiate. Thanks for talking about your situation so that others can think about theirs.

[Zelley]

interesting topic

[funkmehard]

HEY BOLO I COULDN'T AGREE WITH YOU MORE. AS A BOXING COACH THE LAST 20 YRS.I HAVE SEEN AND HEARD THIS FROM FIGHTERS FROM ALL OVER.MISMATCHES LIKE THAT SHOULDN'T HAPPEN AS MUCH THESE DAYS DUE TO PASSBOOKS,BUT MOST TIMES FIGHTERS PUT TRUST IN THEIR COACHES AS THEY SHOULD AND SOME COACHES DONT KNOW ANY BETTER BECAUSE THEY ARE TOO BUSY WORRYING ABOUT THEIR OWN GLORY AND PUTTING FIGHTERS IN GREEN OR IN OVER THEIR HEAD. THEN THEY WONDER WHY EVERYBODY LEAVES THEM OR WORSE QUIT. IT HAPPENED TO ME WAY BACK. MY FIGHTER HAD NO FIGHTS AND THE OTHER COACHES FIGHTER HAD 7 TO 10 FIGHTS BUT WAS 10LBS LIGHTER.THE OTHER COACH TALKED ME INTO IT,SAID HIS GUY WILL WORK WITH US AND SOME OTHER JIVE.HE KICKED OUR BUTT.MY FAULT, BUT I LEARNED.LEARN YOUR CRAFT AS A COACH AND IF YOU WAN'T RESPECT AS A DECENT OR GOOD COACH YOU HAVE TO EARN IT.THAT'S BY COACHING KIDS FROM THE VERY BEGINNING,NOT BY STEALING THEM.ALSO BY PUTTING OUT A STEADY STREAM OF FIGHTERS OVER THE YEARS.MY FELLOW COACH SAY'S 'IT'S NOT THAT WERE GOOD IT'S BECAUSE THEY ARE SO BAD'. THAT IS PART OF THE REASON WHY LOYALTY IS GOING OUT THE DOOR BECAUSE OF BAD COACHES.WORD GETS AROUND QUICK WHEN YOU CAN'T COACH.

[boxmel]

I was hurt real bad in a fight cause my coach was an oldschool caveman that should of not been working with anyone, I only had 5 fight and he put me in there with a guy that had well over 50 fights,

I know I'm being somewhat redundant by replying......if this was at a sanctioned event, the first line of defense should have been the matchmaker. Unless it was a tournament, no sane person should put a match together with that much difference in experience.

I know you get better fighting better guys and you learn from that, I didn't learn crap the only thing I got out of that fight was a erupted ear drum,a dislocated jaw and a broking rib,

I find it very hard to believe that you were able to box all three rounds in that much pain. Did you? Did you tell anyone you were in pain? Can you give a little more information?

[Bolo]

mel I was stopped in the first round and this was a tournament the sliver gloves regionals

[boxmel]

mel I was stopped in the first round and this was a tournament the sliver gloves regionals

Because it was a tournament, there is no rule on how many bouts you or your opponent had. However, there was obviously too much experience in this case and your coach should not have entered you. He must have hit really hard to do all that damage - head (eardrum and jaw) and body (broken rib).

[Athorn4941]

If we all start having to worry about fight spreads people from some regions will never even bothering entering people in tourneys.

Where do you draw the line cause if you box long enough you will run into people with 200+ matches especially at the lighter weights.

But i am an old school boxer where I qualified for national JO tourney when I was younger with only 3 fights and the other guy had 50+.

I don't know that is just my opinion and also why Amateur Boxing is having a tough time in the states having to worry about lawsuits all the time even when they are following the rules like in your case you had 5 bouts you were eligible to be in the tourney.

[bwadd21]

this is a situation where the coach must really know the boxers before they are enterend into a tournament. I have a couple of kids in my gym with 5 or 6 bouts that i would be very comfortable entering into a tournament, in fact one of them competed in the national JO's. But at the same time, i have a couple of kids that have the same amount of bouts that is no where near ready to step up to that level of competition. If the boxer does not feel comfortable getting in the ring, then they shouldn't.

[coachingGOLD]

I agree with a serious fighter and good coach the combo of those. A fighter can get it done. My fighter with like 22 fights entered won the Olympic Trials beating out fighters with 150 + and 200+ fights. Some fighters do need more time and a good coach will know this. It's not a guessing lets see how it goes things. Your coach a good coach needs to be sure and should know if his fighting can take care of himself and fight back in the ring.

[Michael]

Good coaches are VERY, VERY Rare these days

If you find one that is just OK be happy and stay with him.

There are plenty of bad coaches and a lot of real good people who coach that mean well but do
not have first hand experience!!!

[derrick james]

one of the things you have to understand is that so many coaches today have never boxed before . so what that means is that they don't and can't understand what a fighter goes through in the ring. that is one of the problems with boxing today . the boxer who faught in the past never came back to help the new young fighters. thats how these bad coaches get in. i know that some guys get in the sport to help and to make a difference and thats good , but at the same time there will always be a unrealistic expectation on what they think you should be doing. as if they could do it better. the trueth about a boxing coach is that you put your life in his hand your safety. the lie is that he can help and make the right choices in the ring.being a coach i serious. if you don't know what you are doing get help, or just put on some gloves get in the ring a couple of times . i bet you will change your coaching idea's

[ICEMAN JOHN SCULLY]

I had a coach tell me one time back in 1990 that the kid standing next to him "would beat Mark Breland in one years time"

Seeing as how Mark was WBA welterweight champ at the time I figured the kid must be pretty good...I figured I might even be able to use him for sparring...figured he was from out of town and this coach was working with him now as a pro...well, after a few questions I found out the following:

The kid was 17 years old.
Had NO pro fights
Had no amateur fights
Had never SPARRED before.
He did, however, "have the fastest hands" this coach had ever seen on the mitts.

And this coach was a registered coach in our state...