Roberto Duran Is Overrated

[GranberryReturns]

He lost every big fight he had except the ones where he cheated or had an overrated opponent like Sugar Ray Leonard.

[BoxBuzz]

and don't forget his mother wore combat boots.

[SaadOffTheDeck]

This board desperately needs a yawn emoticon.

[bennie]

Duran is underrated.

[King Carlos]

How about his fight with Ernesto Marcel?

[bennie]

He had a big fight on his debut, he had big fights to get out of Panama, he had big fights at lightweight - nobody else beat Ken Buchanan in the Garden - he had big fights with DeJesus, he had big fights with Palomino and Cuevas...

[Idisagree]

Duran is not overrated. He once KO a horse with a right hand

[Panzerfaust]

Duran is not OVERrated. the other lightweight greats are UNDERrated

[Duran Fan]

TROLL

[HomicideHenry]

Duran is no more over-rated than Julio Cesar Chavez. Duran just happened to have greater longetivity than Chavez.

[Goodnight, Irene]

Duran is no more over-rated than Julio Cesar Chavez. Duran just happened to have greater longetivity than Chavez.

Duran was most definitely better than Chavez & he is also most definitely more over-rated, too.

[SaadOffTheDeck]

Is that you Lennox?

Nobody is more overrated than Chavez.

[Goodnight, Irene]

Duran is underrated.

Absolutely no way, no how is Duran under-rated.

[Goodnight, Irene]

Is that you Lennox?

Nobody is more overrated than Chavez.

I can't agree with that, but we obviously have been over this ground before.

I won't dispute that Duran was a better man, but he is over-rated. If I hear one more forty-something tell me Duran is, "the best Lightweight ever, hands down!" I will fvcking puke.

[Seamus]

Roberto Duran is the greatest Lightweight Ever












FROM PANAMA

[SaadOffTheDeck]

SRR is the only owner of any division title in a hands down fashion.

[BoxBuzz]

Duran at lightweight is hard to beat with empirical evidence wouldn't you say GI? Can I go to some films of lightweights that if I watch I will be proven otherwise?

Or do I have to go to journalistic eyewitness accounts to top Duran? This is genuinely a neutral question.

I think Duran is over rated just like I think Ali is. In the same breath that is not saying they are not the best from their divisions.

I might put Salvadore Sanchez in this group as well.

Some fighters have a "mystique" that is difficult to factor out of a clinical analysis.

The guys whose work can't be witnessed are a difficult bunch to assess.

[SaadOffTheDeck]

My only issue with Irene's stance here is that he adamantly denies Chavez is overrated and uses the same reasoning to say Duran is definitively overrated. It lacks consistency.

[BoxBuzz]

Well we all have a pebble in our shoe about something.

I'll tell you this, the judges sure did over rate Chavez the night he got clowned by Whitaker. That was a purely a black eye for boxing that day.

And Chavez comes close to having that sort of religious following that Duran, Marciano, Ali have. Perhaps GI has been worshiping at the alter?

[SaadOffTheDeck]

Maybe so.

I get the sentiment with Duran, no matter who he is posed against he destroys them as if he couldn't be beaten. Dejesus beat him once and yet Ike williams couldn't. I have Duran #1 at Lightweight and in my alltime top 10 overall, but that isn't some sort of law. Chavez routinely hits top 20's and that is laughable.

[Controversial]

Overrated at lightweight? He only lost once at that weight and avenged that twice.

People forget that Duran was only small, to hold your own at middleweight against Hagler over 15 rounds and smash the unbeaten Leonard at welterweight hardly makes him overrated.



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[Goodnight, Irene]

Anyone ranking Chavez as high as Saad just listed, I'll agree, is kidding themselves. I just have not personally seen the man consistently praised at the levels Duran has --- & I don't know when I've seen so many losses in a fighters' career completely written-off as I always do with Duran (though he lost but once in his prime, to be fair).

Buzz says Duran was mighty impressive at Lightweight. Indeed. Know who else was? Benny Leonard. There was also Pernell Whitaker. Anyone remember that chap Ike Williams? How about Henry Armstrong?

It's literally the deepest division ever for Boxing legends. Being a top-10 all-time Lightweight is akin to being a top three or four Heavyweight, yet I don't see one single Lightweight legend routinely classed as, "the best 135lber by a mile, & there ain't no dispute!" as I do with Duran.

He is over-rated because he gets twenty times the respect of men who were either...

A) His equal

B) His superior (slightly)

C) His inferior (slightly)

[Controversial]

I don't know when I've seen so many losses in a fighters' career completely written-off as I always do with Duran (though he lost but once in his prime, to be fair).

Thats the point, in over 70 fights at lightweight he lost once, which he avenged twice. Lightweight was his division, he moved up to welter and middle and fought the best at those weights, he beat one and gave the other a good run for his money.

Apart from Esteban all his losses were at weights that weren't his best. You could slag Bob Foster off for similar losses when he moved up in weight, the fact was light-heavy was the best division for him.

I agree that there are many over zealous Duran fans but at lightweight he was frightening opposition.

[sdfredy]

i agree with the guy above.... TROLL

[Bricks]

a joke is a joke but not if its repeated 50 times. its time to ban this troll.