Tyrell Biggs, if he was around today?

KOJOE90 · Post by **KOJOE90** » 15 Mar 2005, 15:10

Tyrell Biggs was the 1984 Olympic Super-Heavyweight Champion and an outstanding amateur. Although that title was slightly tainted by the fact that the Cubans were not competing in those games. So therefore Biggs didn't have to face the feared Teofilio Stevenson a man who had already beaten him three times.

He was a big athletic boxer who was often called an 'ali clone' and with good reason at times, although he was never in Alis class as a Boxer.

Tyrell Biggs biggest flaw was the fact that he like to snort cocaine as often as possible. So before he snorted all his health and ability away he was rushed into a title shot against the peak Mike Tyson. Biggs looked good for the first round with plenty of movement and accurate jabs. Then his legs started to go and Tyson dealt him a slow but brutal beating.

Tyrells career slowely went downhill after that. He has now been 'clean' for many a year and has a job in Kirk Johnsons camp as a driver and general assistant.

So how do you think Biggs would do in todays weakened Heavyweight division?

Big Vitali may be too much for him but how about Biggs Vs Ruiz? Or Biggs vs Byrd or Brewster?

Would Biggs still be a nearly man if he was around today?

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stujones · Post by **stujones** » 15 Mar 2005, 20:06

The Tyrrell Biggs that lost to Mike Tyson would have beating Ruiz and Byrd at the very least. A true waste of talent. I'm not sure if he would have still been anything other than a nearly man without the drugs fighting in the Tyson and the Holyfield era - but a good fighter, no doubt and one that would have been a champion in a lesser era (such as today).

Jaclem · Post by **Jaclem** » 17 Mar 2005, 02:03

..if tyrell biggs were around today he wouldn't be around much after tomorrow.

Sugar Dus Leonard · Post by **Sugar Dus Leonard** » 17 Mar 2005, 09:15

Tyrell Biggs was a kid that didn't have what it took to make the amatuer to professional transition. Much like 2000 olympian Ricardo Williams he just couldn't live up to what everyone had expected.

One of my favourite Mike Tyson quotes was what he said while being interviewed by Larry Merchant right after knocking out Biggs the exact following... ''He was crying in there, making womanly gestures like'' *Mike then impersonated Tyrell by closing his eyes tight and and pretended to cry like a woman that had just been beat up by her husband*.

I think that Mike Tyson impersonation pretty much sums up Tyrell Biggs.

dempseyfire · Post by **dempseyfire** » 17 Mar 2005, 10:34

Biggs would maybe beat RUiz due to styles but never hd the mindsight of a fighter and tried WAY too hard to fight like Ali when he had neither the stamina, knowledge of distance, punching power, or overall strength of Ali . . . he was very athletically talented and very fast but that doesn´t translate to being a skilled boxer. He´d easily be top 10 but be beat by the best and I even see lesser durable guys like Brewster and McCall taking him out . . .

overhand_right · Post by **overhand_right** » 17 Mar 2005, 15:43

The young, fresh & undefeated Biggs in todays scene would be a realistic prospect for world champion. He would have likely been champ back in 87 if it wasnt for Iron Mike.

Biggs beat Jeff Sims, had an easy job over Quick Tillis shortly before Tysons hard time with the same man, and in his two best wins, beat both David Bey & Renaldo Snipes, two guys who are certainly top 10 in todays set.

Bey treated the fight like his last chance & came to rumble. Biggs showed big heart & power by enduring a real nasty cut and comingback to wipe Bey out in awesome style in the 6th. And against Mr Snipes it was actually Biggs who was the puncher and he decked him hard early on, shrugged off Snipes heavy hitting & cruised to a 10 rd dec.

So no Dominic Guinn or Joe Mesi joke-type fighter who wilts under his first semi-'stern' test like todays guys. He started off real nice against Iron Mike as well, but let himself get into a slugging match which was all wrong. Still, its difficult to imagine any heavyweight in todays scene surviving 7 rds with prime Tyson & no way in hell can any current heavy fight/issue the kind of beating Tyson did that night.

Before he lost his undefeated tag/focus/activity and started treating the game as just a payday Biggs was a legit talent who would beat Ruiz, Byrd, and Brewster easy and i believe beat a big clumsy goon like Klitschko, who doesnt possess natural talent IMO.

KOJOE90 · Post by **KOJOE90** » 17 Mar 2005, 15:48

Sugar Dus Leonard wrote:One of my favourite Mike Tyson quotes was what he said while being interviewed by Larry Merchant right after knocking out Biggs the exact following... ''He was crying in there, making womanly gestures like'' *Mike then impersonated Tyrell by closing his eyes tight and and pretended to cry like a woman that had just been beat up by her husband*.

I think that Mike Tyson impersonation pretty much sums up Tyrell Biggs.

I have heard that Tyson has since appologised for those comments.

silkov · Post by **silkov** » 17 Mar 2005, 16:55

Sugar Dus Leonard wrote:Tyrell Biggs was a kid that didn't have what it took to make the amatuer to professional transition. Much like 2000 olympian Ricardo Williams he just couldn't live up to what everyone had expected.

One of my favourite Mike Tyson quotes was what he said while being interviewed by Larry Merchant right after knocking out Biggs the exact following... ''He was crying in there, making womanly gestures like'' *Mike then impersonated Tyrell by closing his eyes tight and and pretended to cry like a woman that had just been beat up by her husband*.

I think that Mike Tyson impersonation pretty much sums up Tyrell Biggs.

He had a lot of talent and guts mate... I saw him win a fight vs David Bey with a very badly cut eye, he also beat another opponent onehanded after suffering a broken collarbone. I think Tysons comments reveal more about Tyson than Biggs. Biggs never chickened out of a fight by biting his opponents ears off. Tysons a dog.
Biggs was runined by his drugs problem/self doubt and the fact that his management knowing he had problems just threw him in at the deep end to cash in on him rather than give him time to develop as a person and a fighter and try to overcome his problems.
iF Tyrell was active today and drug free and handled right he would have all the talent to be the world champion.

KOJOE90 · Post by **KOJOE90** » 20 Mar 2005, 08:37

I agree that in his short lived prime Tyrell Biggs was a gutsy fighter. He beat the hard hitting Jeff Simms with a broken Collar bone.

He also has since admitted that he knew he was going to lose to Tyson from about the start of the third round, yet he stuck in there and took a brutal beating from a peak rampaging Yyson.

Even as an amateur he was willing to get in the ring with the feared Cuban missile launcher Teofilio Stevenson three times!!

Graham Brett · Post by **Graham Brett** » 21 Mar 2005, 09:59

Biggs was a tremendous talent, who for wahtever reason did not have the psycological make up of a champion. Talent is just one attribute of a great fighter, Biggs had talent, lots of it, but he was severely lacking in other areas.

He was no match for Tyson, who at the time would have been a formidable foe for any Heavyweight in history.

zslayton · Post by **zslayton** » 23 Apr 2005, 02:18

drugs don't make you have a glass jaw guys and biggs had one of those. the ability was there, but in any era, a top big hitting heavy would knock him out. chris byrd would out box him too. john ruiz would hug him to death. either of the brothers would knock him out cold. he fought in the late 80's and couldn't get it done and that is one of the weakest eras in heavyweight history.

though he did have a pretty jab and a nice bounce in the ring.

overhand_right · Post by **overhand_right** » 24 Apr 2005, 10:12

Biggs a glass chin?

How did he go 7 rds with prime Tyson then mate?

The guy took a bludgeoning beating & eventually caved in. What the frick are you talking about?

Neither Daminai or Mason actually knocked him out either, and against Bowe he basically folded after a strong start.

Good fighter, but went down hill after the loss to Tyson.

Slapsie Maxie · Post by **Slapsie Maxie** » 25 Apr 2005, 04:34

My abiding memory of Biggs will be him folding to what was, to all intents and purposes, a pawing jab from Mason. At the the time, I thought the fix was in as they were building towards Mason/Lewis and needed a "name" to pad out Mason's record

Seeing it again recently, I think he just thought "fornicate this, give me my money" and quit

A shame as he was, in his younger days, quite skilful

Slapsie

KOJOE90 · Post by **KOJOE90** » 25 Apr 2005, 13:51

Biggs has since claimed he had a heavy cold the night he fought Gary Mason. Mason had a good dig on him but it was for sure a strange knockdown.

My opinion is that Biggs at that point in his career was lacking ambition.

overhand_right · Post by **overhand_right** » 25 Apr 2005, 14:14

Biggs got smaked dead on the nose. Any idea how much that hurts?

He went down & when the crooked ref stood over him he began the count at NINE. If you watch the tape you see Biggs head jump up in shock at how late Larry O'Crooked-Connel picks up the count.

Before that he had been giving Mason a very hard time & was way ahead on any sane scorecard.

Just another crooked British robbery like when they threw in the towel for a fat Quick Tillis who was in ZERO trouble against Mason in 5 rds, or when John Crooked Coyle waved off the figth with Frank Bruno & Carl Williams in the last rd whent he Truth was ready to continue just so Bruno could have the knockout victory.

zslayton · Post by **zslayton** » 28 Apr 2005, 19:19

overhand_right wrote:Biggs a glass chin?

How did he go 7 rds with prime Tyson then mate?

The guy took a bludgeoning beating & eventually caved in. What the frick are you talking about?

Neither Daminai or Mason actually knocked him out either, and against Bowe he basically folded after a strong start.

Good fighter, but went down hill after the loss to Tyson.

EVEN A GUY WITH A GLASS JAW HAS TO GET HIT CLEAN TO EXPOSE IT. IT JUST TOOK TYSON A FEW ROUNDS TO GET TO BIGGS BECAUSE OF THE MOVEMENT.

overhand_right · Post by **overhand_right** » 01 May 2005, 08:32

You dont even know what a glass chin is mate.

Before Tyon Biggs fought the heavy hitting David Bey, and had to take some heavy licks & a severe cut before turning it all around.

Before that he beat Renaldo Snipes & Jeff Sims, both of whom were heavy hitters. If he had a "glass chin" they would have exposed it, and if he had a glass chin then Tyson cant punch because he couldnt put Biggs down for the count.

Jaclem · Post by **Jaclem** » 01 May 2005, 13:03

..okay....now....it is well past the time to stop writing about this mediocre fighter on this pointless thread.

..thank you in advance for taking this advice.

KOJOE90 · Post by **KOJOE90** » 01 May 2005, 13:11

Jaclem wrote:..okay....now....it is well past the time to stop writing about this mediocre fighter on this pointless thread.

Thanks.

Lickszz · Post by **Lickszz** » 06 May 2005, 21:24

[quote="overhand_right"]Biggs got smaked dead on the nose. Any idea how much that hurts?

He went down & when the crooked ref stood over him he began the count at NINE. If you watch the tape you see Biggs head jump up in shock at how late Larry O'Crooked-Connel picks up the count.

Before that he had been giving Mason a very hard time & was way ahead on any sane scorecard.

Just another crooked British robbery like when they threw in the towel for a fat Quick Tillis who was in ZERO trouble against Mason in 5 rds, or when John Crooked Coyle waved off the figth with Frank Bruno & Carl Williams in the last rd whent he Truth was ready to continue just so Bruno could have the knockout victory.[/quote]

Your right about the Carl Williams one. Williams was up beofre the 10 count and ready to continue but was counted out. I thought he had made Bruno look quite foolish throughout that fight.

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