SIMPSON VS SMITH afterthoughts?

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Was ringside for the fight anyone else think johns been given the rough end of it again here? no way smith done enough to come into the champions back yard and take his title away? I think even at the final bell smith and his corner and his fans new john had it won. I feel a rematch would be fair down in liverpool. :bag:
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I thought Simpson won 115-114. Considering where the fight was being held, and the ubiquity of hometown decisions, I was suprised Smith got the judges' nod. Smith certainly looked the buisness early, but as the fight went on I thought Simpson was landing the better shots. He jarred Smith a couple times with uppercuts, and I felt he did enought to win the majority of the mid/late rounds. Smith showed good handspeed and toughness, but I felt his work was less effective. There was far too much holding and hitting from both parties, and I think O'Connor should have broken them up quicker when they clinched.
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Totally i guess smith is Frank warrens boy on a warren show, and he would love to hold smith/lyndsey in say liverpool. Smith should give simpson a return either way.
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bigped wrote:Totally i guess smith is Frank warrens boy on a warren show, and he would love to hold smith/lyndsey in say liverpool. Smith should give simpson a return either way.
Ah. For some reason I forgot it was a Fwank show. That explains why there was no hometown decision. The promoter's fighter is the 'hometown' boy no matter where the bout occurs.
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sg1985 wrote:Lets not go too far, I thought Simpson nicked it as I posted earlier. But a lot of the rounds were close, a few scored 10-10's on here during the fight, I think it's a stretch to say it was Warren cooking. I do have a problem though with a card of 116-112, it was nothing like that, not even close.
I agree, it could have gone either way. I didn't mean to suggest that there was any Warren cooking, just that there was no 'Scotland' decision because Smith was the promoter's fighter, not Simpson.
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Smith is a good little fighter, but he did not win the fight on my card.

116-112 SIMPSON.

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I caught the late showing on sky sports and was a bit annoyed they didn't show the full fight, only missed out a few rounds but still...

From what was shown it looked like it could have went either way. Would like to see Smith make a defence or two of his title before going into a Lindsay or Simpson II fight.
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i had simpson win only by a small margin but that was a robbery
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Lets look for a smith defence aginsat an african, then simpson pushed to the back foot, if anything that deseves a rematch, wont happen
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i had smith winning by 2 points, was a close fight lets get a rematch on at the echo
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No way did Smith win that fight!!! It was competitive yes but Simpson pushed ahead towards the end.
I was live at the fight, the shots Simpson hit Smith were far greater and more frequent.
I lost count the number of times Smith had spray sent flying from his head.
I felt Smiths body language at the end the fight told you what he thought the result was.
Simpson robbed again!! but this time at fking home due to it being on a FW show!
Am fed up with this! Why has Simpson continually being held back when Burns is fighting for world belts.
The least Simpson should have fought for by now is the European.
You could see this result had ripped the stomach from him again!!
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Looking at the anxiety on Paul Smith's face in the last round, he didn't think he'd won it either. He may say otherwise, but that's not how it looked to me, at least.
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looks like everybody thought simpson nicked it, including myself. looks like swifty isn't what all the scousers made him out to be.
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HomeOfBritishBoxing wrote:looks like everybody thought simpson nicked it, including myself. looks like swifty isn't what all the scousers made him out to be.
Look it was very, very close. You are all slagging Smith off on here, but lets remember the seasoned pro Simpson didn't really do too much either. It was a close fight and the judges obviously went with the agressor Smith who was decent for the first half. Personally had Simpson by 1, but that was scoring 10-10 rounds as well. They appear to have gone nowaday as judges are looking more for the winners. Smith has even said he will give a rematch, so thats the next step for me.
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I think Simpson won by a round. The better boxing was from Smith, but his inexperience showed through. He needs to improve his inside work, but his fitness was excellent. It's unusual for Warren to match his young prospects so tough, but I expect Smith learned more in this fight than his previous 10 combined. A re-match is in order.
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HomeOfBritishBoxing wrote:looks like everybody thought simpson nicked it, including myself. looks like swifty isn't what all the scousers made him out to be.
At the end of the day it was only Smiths 11th pro fight(i think he will improve from that) and dont forget Simpson is one tough guy..
My sky went off from rounds 3-6 last night,so only watched the rerun after..i had Simpson in a close fight,but i wouldlt call it a robbery...Bet the poor scotch lad is thinking this morning why he never gets the nod in a close fight...
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as a completely biased scotsman the event. i scored it 1 round to the young scouser.

it was tight but john simpson was too straight forward, too obvious!

smith was the more complete fighter
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I wanted to smith to win and won good money on the decision but honestly think he got a tad lucky getting a decision as close as that in Johns backyard.

I dont think hed get past Lindsay just yet based on that performance so a rematch before the Lindsay fight would make more sense to me.
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I had Simpson winning by 1 round on my scorecard, but cannot argue with it goin gthe other way.
It was a hard fight to score, some of the rounds were messy, others had one boxer landing more, but then the other would score with a telling punch.

whatever the scoring, hats off to Smith, he went into the champions backyard and proved he is competitive over 12 rounds.
I would like a rematch, and i think that will happen, but in Liverpool
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HomeOfBritishBoxing wrote:looks like everybody thought simpson nicked it, including myself. looks like swifty isn't what all the scousers made him out to be.

You'll see soon enough that Stephen is a world class kid, Simpson is a tough fight and I believe a tougher fight than Lindsay!! He won that fight last night, While i agree it was a tough fight yes BUT the fact is, tough fight or not he won!! He's had 10 fights he didn't have to take that fight at all!! he asked for it and that alone he deserves a lot of credit!! Stephen Smith come of age last night he really did!! :TU: I also know he'll want more than just the Commenwealth title!! :TU:

I also forgot to say they are both FW fighters!!
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Simpson isnt really a " Frank W*rren fighter though so cant go with that , Smith showed alot of ability and heart but Simpson should have got the nod, im not being biased here but simpson is one of those fighters that if the "home" fighter is in a close scrap they will give in to the SN fighter , i bet that swifty fights an african next and not a return so that he can get more experience , simpson will get a carrott of an undercard fight on Burns next show ,
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I'm not complaining about the result because he won me a few quid but I didn't think Smith did enough to take the belt home. He started really well, was throwing 2-, 3-, 4- punch combos and then making Simpson miss on the way out. If he would have carried on like that, he would have won comfortably IMO. Instead, he started lunging in with the straight right then ending up on the inside where Simpson was getting most of his joy. Smith even said after the fight that he struggled on the inside so I have no idea why carried on doing it. Maybe the cut affected him mentally?

I'd like to see a rematch down here but I can't see Smith passing up the opportunity to fight Lindsay.

Well done though Stephen, it was still a good performance considering it was only your 11th fight.
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Regardless of wether people believe it or not, They are both FW fighters and thats a fact.. Simpson has had his 2 best paydays to date from FW for Bellos and Smith and let's be right if Simpson was not an FW fighter too the fight would not have taken place in Scotland, If it was only about Smith the fight would have taken place in Liverpool on 23rd October!!

I give Simpson a lot of credit he fights anyone and is so tough it's unreal BUT credit were credits due Stephen Smith has just beat a fighter who is regarded a level above British level so for that Stephen Smith deserves an awful lot of praise imo.. :TU:
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Stephen won that fight, I had him winning by 2 rounds it was a tough fight like we all knew it would be but I think stephen deserves some credit to ask for that fight in scotland in his first title fight his first 12 rounds with someone like simpson is some going. Stephen will have learnd so much from that fight and I hope they do have a rematch because I believe he will beat him more convincengly. When stephen was boxing him he made simpson miss and look slow, simpsons best work was inside were he showed his experinece and every now and then swift would get caught with a right hand but all the best work came from stephen simpson couldn't get near him at times. Everyone has a opinion and marks fights ther own way but to say simpson was robbed is a load of shit some rounds were close and the judges obviouslt give them to stephen for the better work. It was a great night and one of the best venues for atmosphere I've ever seen so alls I'm saying now is AND THE NEW!!!! :TU:
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toomanyshots wrote:No way did Smith win that fight!!! It was competitive yes but Simpson pushed ahead towards the end.
I was live at the fight, the shots Simpson hit Smith were far greater and more frequent.
I lost count the number of times Smith had spray sent flying from his head.
I felt Smiths body language at the end the fight told you what he thought the result was.
Simpson robbed again!! but this time at fking home due to it being on a FW show!
Am fed up with this! Why has Simpson continually being held back when Burns is fighting for world belts.
The least Simpson should have fought for by now is the European.
You could see this result had ripped the stomach from him again!!

Well said.
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