Classic American West Coast Boxing

[Randyman]

Thanks for the birthday wishes guys . . .

And, Rick, please thank the Housewives producing that nice promo clip in honor of my birthday. I guess now I'll have to watch the program . . .

[Randyman]

Did anyone here see the James Toney MMA fiasco? I resent the hell out of Toney going in there out of shape and not ever really try. They should have withheld his pay. I refused to pay for it.
Randy

I saw it at the invitation of my sons. He was out of his element. But the MMA guy would have lasted about as long in a boxing match with Toney. Even my sons admitted that.

The real test will be when Couture agrees to fight a 10 round fight with Toney or any other fighter. I wont hold my breath.

[raylawpc]

Did anyone here see the James Toney MMA fiasco? I resent the hell out of Toney going in there out of shape and not ever really try. They should have withheld his pay. I refused to pay for it.
Randy

I saw it at the invitation of my sons. He was out of his element. But the MMA guy would have lasted about as long in a boxing match with Toney. Even my sons admitted that.

The real test will be when Couture agrees to fight a 10 round fight with Toney or any other fighter. I wont hold my breath.

Yep! That's exactly what I told my sons. And even though they are big MMA fans, they readily agreed.

[Panzerfaust]

I saw it at the invitation of my sons. He was out of his element. But the MMA guy would have lasted about as long in a boxing match with Toney. Even my sons admitted that.

The real test will be when Couture agrees to fight a 10 round fight with Toney or any other fighter. I wont hold my breath.

Yep! That's exactly what I told my sons. And even though they are big MMA fans, they readily agreed.

Even Randy Coutore agrees. He said somewhere that he would probably be knocked out in the first..

Happy Birthday Tom

[bennie]

Scotland's Ricky Burns scored a big win over the previously unbeaten Rocky Martinez last night for the WBO super-featherweight title. Burns, normally a stylish boxer, got stuck into the Puerto Rican and 'took' the title on home turf at the Kelvin Hall in Glasgow, scene of Jim Watt's glory nights 30 years ago.

[Panzerfaust]

Scotland's Ricky Burns scored a big win over the previously unbeaten Rocky Martinez last night for the WBO super-featherweight title. Burns, normally a stylish boxer, got stuck into the Puerto Rican and 'took' the title on home turf at the Kelvin Hall in Glasgow, scene of Jim Watt's glory nights 30 years ago.

I watched the fight last night. great action. Burns's chin and Martinez's punching had me sitting on the edge of my seat all the way through. No great technical display, but between that and Simpson vs smith i bet noone in the audience felt cheated

[bennie]

Scotland's Ricky Burns scored a big win over the previously unbeaten Rocky Martinez last night for the WBO super-featherweight title. Burns, normally a stylish boxer, got stuck into the Puerto Rican and 'took' the title on home turf at the Kelvin Hall in Glasgow, scene of Jim Watt's glory nights 30 years ago.

I watched the fight last night. great action. Burns's chin and Martinez's punching had me sitting on the edge of my seat all the way through. No great technical display, but between that and Simpson vs smith i bet noone in the audience felt cheated

I'm not a Scot but I have to say that the Scots really get behind their man. The Kelvin Hall factor was a huge one.

[Panzerfaust]

Scotland's Ricky Burns scored a big win over the previously unbeaten Rocky Martinez last night for the WBO super-featherweight title. Burns, normally a stylish boxer, got stuck into the Puerto Rican and 'took' the title on home turf at the Kelvin Hall in Glasgow, scene of Jim Watt's glory nights 30 years ago.

I watched the fight last night. great action. Burns's chin and Martinez's punching had me sitting on the edge of my seat all the way through. No great technical display, but between that and Simpson vs smith i bet noone in the audience felt cheated

I'm not a Scot but I have to say that the Scots really get behind their man. The Kelvin Hall factor was a huge one.

I think Glascow was the one place to be in the world last night after the fight

[bennie]

Now we just want Limond to do Morales.

[bennie]

I'm not a Scot but I am a Celt. Here is a shot of an Irish beach.

[CNorkusJr]

There's a new Housewife on the block.............and soon a new neighbor to appear named Tom, who no doubtedly will be mowing his grass everyday, getting sweaty with his shirt off.......and praying to God that one of the housewives will offer him something cool to drink.

Happy Birthday Tom Keep Punchin'

Sorry, Fire Marshalls' said no candles on the cake for you

[raylawpc]

There's a new Housewife on the block.............and soon a new neighbor to appear named Tom, who no doubtedly will be mowing his grass everyday, getting sweaty with his shirt off.......and praying to God that one of the housewives will offer him something cool to drink.

Happy Birthday Tom Keep Punchin'

Sorry, Fire Marshalls' said no candles on the cake for you

Thanks, I like the scenario except I wouldn't have my shirt off . . . I'm afraid the view would scare off the Housewives!

Thanks for the birthday wishes, my friend.

[raylawpc]

The real test will be when Couture agrees to fight a 10 round fight with Toney or any other fighter. I wont hold my breath.

Yep! That's exactly what I told my sons. And even though they are big MMA fans, they readily agreed.

Even Randy Coutore agrees. He said somewhere that he would probably be knocked out in the first..

Happy Birthday Tom

Thanks Panzerfaust!

[kikibalt]

There's a new Housewife on the block.............and soon a new neighbor to appear named Tom, who no doubtedly will be mowing his grass everyday, getting sweaty with his shirt off.......and praying to God that one of the housewives will offer him something cool to drink.

Happy Birthday Tom Keep Punchin'

Sorry, Fire Marshalls' said no candles on the cake for you

[Rick Farris]

Desperate Attorney . . .

Tom could be written in as a tax attorney, who arrives at Wisteria Lane to aid Carlos in his efforts to hide money from the government and his wife. Tom might not normally due such an act, but he has fallen under the spell of one of the ladies, who is set on turning the tables on Carlos. And . . . .

Oh what tangles webs are weaved when you deal with Desperate Housewives.

[kikibalt]

Desperate Attorney . . .

Tom could be written in as a tax attorney, who arrives at Wisteria Lane to aid Carlos in his efforts to hide money from the government and his wife. Tom might not normally due such an act, but he has fallen under the spell of one of the ladies, who is set on turning the tables on Carlos. And . . . .

Oh what tangles webs are weaved when you deal with Desperate Housewives.

[Rick Farris]

Fire Marshalls . . .


Charlie, with all the film work done in Manhatten, I imagine you have spent your share of time on film sets.
A fire marshall must always be present on location film sets, especially when there is fire in the scene.
On stage, at the studio, we don't have a fire marshall present unless fire is used.
Even something as simple as lighting a match requires the fire department be present.
The inspectors also check out our electrical rigs to see that we are not in violation of any health or safety laws.
I always make sure that my assistant walks the fire marshall thru our location rigs prior to filming.
I don't want the fireman addressing me in the middle of the set during a shot, regarding some safety issue.
There have been some major studio fires over the years, lots of combustable materials used.
AS Charlie might verify, film sets can be extremely dangerous places to work, lots of electricity, items that one can trip over, we are up in the air quite often, and equipment if not made safe can fall. When you ad the element of explosions, etc. it can be quite dangerous. We work with the fire marshalls to insure safety.

[Rick Farris]

Burning Down the House . . .

At each WBHOF banquet, we do a "Ten Count" to honor boxing personalities who have passed away during the year.
Last year, we assigned one of our directors with historical knowledge to read off the names of boxers who have passed.
Our director, wanted to add a little drama to his task, and told me he'd want to light a candle on stage for each fallen boxer.
I thought it was a nice idea, but explained to him that it would not only take a lot of time, but require a fire marshall's OK.
The director did not understand, "I don't want to build a bon fire, just light a few candles." he complained.
I reminded him that he had a list of more than three dozen, which meant more than thirty candles.
We were in an auditorium with with more than a thousand people present.
It was going to be a major pain-in-the-ass (not to mention time consuming).
When he protesed I told him he could do whatever he wanted, just get the fire marshall to OK it.
Mando Muniz was upset, "Rick, we don't have time to have him light all those candles, we gotta tell him "no".
I assured Mando not to worry, the fire marshall will give him the message.
Sure enough, after the guy confered with the fire marshal he returned to Mando and I mad as hell.
Mando and I consoled him, but were happy. Later, I thanked the fire marshall.

[Randyman]

Scotland's Ricky Burns scored a big win over the previously unbeaten Rocky Martinez last night for the WBO super-featherweight title. Burns, normally a stylish boxer, got stuck into the Puerto Rican and 'took' the title on home turf at the Kelvin Hall in Glasgow, scene of Jim Watt's glory nights 30 years ago.

I didn't see this fight. My congrats to Burns. If I had to choose between two talented but cautious superstars and two slightly less talented but willing warriors, I'll pick the latter.

[raylawpc]

Desperate Attorney . . .

Tom could be written in as a tax attorney, who arrives at Wisteria Lane to aid Carlos in his efforts to hide money from the government and his wife. Tom might not normally due such an act, but he has fallen under the spell of one of the ladies, who is set on turning the tables on Carlos. And . . . .

Oh what tangles webs are weaved when you deal with Desperate Housewives.

Tom would never do such an act because Tom took an oath to never break the law and Tom does not want to ever reside in a federal penitentary. But, God help me, if anyone could ever tempt me to do something like that it would be Eva Longoria.

[Rick Farris]

Some Classic L.A. Boxing . . .


Gene LeBell on Lauro Salas:

"Babe McCoy sent me on all kinds of boxing errands. I was just a teenager and could barely tie my shoes. He had me make a hungover Lauro Salas get out of his bed and do his road work. Salas was a talented fighter from Mexico and he won the lightweight championship in a stunning upset over Jimmy Carter at the Olympic Auditorium in 1952. "The guy drinks alot," Babe informs me. "You have to go over to his place in the morning, get him out of bed and do roadwork. He can be hostile when he is drunk."

"Lauro Salas lived in the Echo Park district of Los Angeles. It wasn't the worst neighborhood in the world but it wasn't the best, either. His apartment was on the bottom floor of a run down building. The first time I went to his room the door was open. It was a dirty place with beer bottles strewn about and Salas was passed out on his bed, asleep with his clothes still on from the night before. I shouted at him and tried to wake him up, but he barely responded. He was a dinky little guy back then and probably fought at 126 pounds, so I picked him up and dragged him outside. He started to struggle and muttered at me in Spanish. The fumes from his breath could have KOed any opponent at the moment."

"You're going to run five miles," I said, "Or else I'm going to strip you down and make you do it naked." He then shrugged me off and gave in. I moved him along and we ran around the park two times, which was maybe two miles. After that, we returned to his apartment, went in and lay down. Once he did that he was out cold again.

"I called Mr. McCoy, and told him what had happened, and that Lauro had done his roadwork. "Could you do it again tomorrow?" he asked, and of course I did. Babe used to pay me five dollars for making Lauro run, which was big money for a kid bak then, and without a doubt he over paid me. I doubt Salas' sparring partners were making that much."



-Gene LeBell, from "The Godfather of Grappling"

[Rick Farris]

Desperate Attorney . . .

Tom could be written in as a tax attorney, who arrives at Wisteria Lane to aid Carlos in his efforts to hide money from the government and his wife. Tom might not normally due such an act, but he has fallen under the spell of one of the ladies, who is set on turning the tables on Carlos. And . . . .

Oh what tangles webs are weaved when you deal with Desperate Housewives.

Tom would never do such an act because Tom took an oath to never break the law and Tom does not want to ever reside in a federal penitentary. But, God help me, if anyone could ever tempt me to do something like that it would be Eva Longoria.

Eva's response . . .

"Oh c'mon, Tommy. Just this one time. Nobody will know, just us baby. . . "

[kikibalt]

On a boring Sunday I'm watching "The Ring"

[Rick Farris]

On a boring Sunday I'm watching "The Ring"

Good idea!
I have mine right on the shelf above.
We get a flash of Keeny Teran in the ring, and on the heavy bag.
There is another actor, his last name is Martinez, who played one of the fighter's homies.
The actor also played in the 50's/60's TV series, The Real McCoy's, he played "Pepino" opposite Walter Brennan and Richard Crenna.
And of course, Rita Moreno.

[Expug]

Some Classic L.A. Boxing . . .


Gene LeBell on Lauro Salas:

"Babe McCoy sent me on all kinds of boxing errands. I was just a teenager and could barely tie my shoes. He had me make a hungover Lauro Salas get out of his bed and do his road work. Salas was a talented fighter from Mexico and he won the lightweight championship in a stunning upset over Jimmy Carter at the Olympic Auditorium in 1952. "The guy drinks alot," Babe informs me. "You have to go over to his place in the morning, get him out of bed and do roadwork. He can be hostile when he is drunk."

"Lauro Salas lived in the Echo Park district of Los Angeles. It wasn't the worst neighborhood in the world but it wasn't the best, either. His apartment was on the bottom floor of a run down building. The first time I went to his room the door was open. It was a dirty place with beer bottles strewn about and Salas was passed out on his bed, asleep with his clothes still on from the night before. I shouted at him and tried to wake him up, but he barely responded. He was a dinky little guy back then and probably fought at 126 pounds, so I picked him up and dragged him outside. He started to struggle and muttered at me in Spanish. The fumes from his breath could have KOed any opponent at the moment."

"You're going to run five miles," I said, "Or else I'm going to strip you down and make you do it naked." He then shrugged me off and gave in. I moved him along and we ran around the park two times, which was maybe two miles. After that, we returned to his apartment, went in and lay down. Once he did that he was out cold again.

"I called Mr. McCoy, and told him what had happened, and that Lauro had done his roadwork. "Could you do it again tomorrow?" he asked, and of course I did. Babe used to pay me five dollars for making Lauro run, which was big money for a kid bak then, and without a doubt he over paid me. I doubt Salas' sparring partners were making that much."



-Gene LeBell, from "The Godfather of Grappling"

Great book isnt Rick?
I was gonna mention this story about Gene and Lauro Salas when you guys were posting about him the other day.
Great stuff in that book about The Olympic. It gave an outsider like myself a great feel for the place.Gene would know about it.As would you.