SIMPSON VS SMITH afterthoughts?

[Undefeated]

looks like everybody thought simpson nicked it, including myself. looks like swifty isn't what all the scousers made him out to be.

You'll see soon enough that Stephen is a world class kid, Simpson is a tough fight and I believe a tougher fight than Lindsay!! He won that fight last night, While i agree it was a tough fight yes BUT the fact is, tough fight or not he won!! He's had 10 fights he didn't have to take that fight at all!! he asked for it and that alone he deserves a lot of credit!! Stephen Smith come of age last night he really did!! I also know he'll want more than just the Commenwealth title!!

I also forgot to say they are both FW fighters!!

Smith asking for the fight and taking it should not score points. He is an ambitious fighter and good for him. But he lost the fight and he will I agree get better, but if I see a load of unknown Africans being lined up I will not bother watching.

Simpson deserves an immediate rematch. Lindsay should wait as up close Smith had no plan. I agree SMITH will get much better, but he is not as good as advertised.

[Gazmac81]

x2 i dont see this it was only his 11th fight routine being a reason to sway it his way , a fight is a fight and should be scored as equals

looks like everybody thought simpson nicked it, including myself. looks like swifty isn't what all the scousers made him out to be.

You'll see soon enough that Stephen is a world class kid, Simpson is a tough fight and I believe a tougher fight than Lindsay!! He won that fight last night, While i agree it was a tough fight yes BUT the fact is, tough fight or not he won!! He's had 10 fights he didn't have to take that fight at all!! he asked for it and that alone he deserves a lot of credit!! Stephen Smith come of age last night he really did!! I also know he'll want more than just the Commenwealth title!!

I also forgot to say they are both FW fighters!!

Smith asking for the fight and taking it should not score points. He is an ambitious fighter and good for him. But he lost the fight and he will I agree get better, but if I see a load of unknown Africans being lined up I will not bother watching.

Simpson deserves an immediate rematch. Lindsay should wait as up close Smith had no plan. I agree SMITH will get much better, but he is not as good as advertised.

[bigped]

Regardless of wether people believe it or not, They are both FW fighters and thats a fact.. Simpson has had his 2 best paydays to date from FW for Bellos and Smith and let's be right if Simpson was not an FW fighter too the fight would not have taken place in Scotland, If it was only about Smith the fight would have taken place in Liverpool on 23rd October!!

I give Simpson a lot of credit he fights anyone and is so tough it's unreal BUT credit were credits due Stephen Smith has just beat a fighter who is regarded a level above British level so for that Stephen Smith deserves an awful lot of praise imo..

Come on bomber, smith was the fw fighter last night, hes the one big frank would like to undercard in liverp, ool with his brother, john was very much the away fighter last night, i wouldnt be suprsied if john chucked it now as if u cant get a break at home what chance have you got.

[John1980]

I was ringside sitting with a lot of Smith's friend's l presume as Joe Selkirk was buzzing about during the Liam Smith fight, not sure how l ended up there but it was fine as l was supporting him anyway, and yes it was close but l think Smith did enough to win and that's from a Scot, as someone else said the atmosphere was electric. However the organisation of seating ringside was shite with no numbers on seats etc. Prefer the Echo as a venue for boxing.

Well done Swifty

[jBacca]

Anyone calling this a robbery is deluded.

So many rounds in the middle section were hard to score, and I wouldn't even criticise Ian John Lewis' card.

I had Swifty 115-113. I gave him rounds 1, 2, 3, 5, 10, and the majority of the others were so hard to score that they could have gone either way.

Tell you what, Simpson was a lot, lot tougher than I expected. I knew he was solid and would be a stern test, but his defence was top notch and I think he's improved even since his destruction of Truscott last time out.

Swifty needs to be given credit. In his 11th fight, he's gone to Scotland, made a huge step up and won. I'd love to see a rematch in Liverpool and I think Swifty will have learnt a hell of a lot from the fight last night.

[lurkyshaka]

I thought Smith nicked it but it was razor close and i'd not have had any problem had Simpson been given the verdict. A rematch is definitely worthwhile.

Think the fight followed the pattern generally predicted with Smith getting off to a fast start with his slicker boxing and movement before Simpson started to claw his way back. Both fighters deserve credit for the fight, but there is more scope for improvement from Smith.

He does need some more learning fights to get comfortable at this level. His inside game certainly needs work, but the experience gained against Simpson will stand him in good stead for the future. Think he'd win more clearly in a return.

[jBacca]

Just to add, thought Smith showed a tremendous engine. I wouldn't have put Simpson getting back into the fight being down to his stamina which we expected, but more because he dragged Swifty into a bit of a war.

[hurlock]

simpson edged the rounds he won & smith's rounds was clear which counts for little unless your dropping them aswell.12 round fights are a marathon & smith took to it like a duck to water. just to think jeffries was complaining against going an extra 2rds versus a journeyman :!:
i'd like too see smith have another 2 before a rematch just so he can season up abit & become more rounded as he's got loads of time & dont need to be getting thrown in wars v more expierianced fighters. really pleased for smith he's a proper gent

[Undefeated]

Smith did well. BUT not enough to win.

Needs to sort out the infighting but I am sure he will have a good career.

IMMEDIATE REMATCH.

This reminds me of Fury Vs Mcdermott in the sense that SMITH will get better and win the rematch while SIMPSON has found his level.

[markpacy]

For all the hype Smith was getting on the boards, he was disappoiinting. He will never be a world champ. Although if someone like Burns can win a world title, then maybe Smith or Simpson can. However, he isn't really that good and nothing to get excited about at all.

[jBacca]

For all the hype Smith was getting on the boards, he was disappoiinting. He will never be a world champ. Although if someone like Burns can win a world title, then maybe Smith or Simpson can. However, he isn't really that good and nothing to get excited about at all.

Why don't you think he's any good?

[hitman_hatton1]

i thought simpson picked him off cleaner.

better defence.

smith was trying to get it going from distance but that wasn't really working out either.

simpson deserved it i thought.

rematch in liverpool i bet.

the board should order simpson get a rematch.

[hitman_hatton1]

For all the hype Smith was getting on the boards, he was disappoiinting. He will never be a world champ. Although if someone like Burns can win a world title, then maybe Smith or Simpson can. However, he isn't really that good and nothing to get excited about at all.

agreed.

never looked an exceptional prospect.

british title level is not to be sniffed at though.

[Lenny]

Smith looked okay, I thought he nicked a close one but his lack of work up close was alarming. In my opinion he had the tools to beat Simpson comfortably but the times when he looked good hurting Simpson to the body or timing him with straight one twos, he'd follow it up by smothering his own work, trying to clinch and getting caught. In a way, it was fairly similar to his brothers last couple of fights.

[DougieC30]

Was at the fight and at the time i had Simpson by 2 rounds.... I recorded it on Sky and watched it again today and it was closer on second viewing, i had a draw second time round.... Simmy usually starts slow and it was no difference last night, Smith took the first 3 rounds by getting in and out and looking good at the process.. Simpson did start getting back into it mid way through the fight with Smith looking to hold when close in.....

Fair play to Smith for coming up and putting Simmy on the back foot early on and fair play to Simpson for accepting Smiths challange.. I really think that there deserves a rematch to be honest

[gobbles]

I had it a draw. Simpson and Smith are both promoted by Warren.
Simpson faded badly after round 7, possibly didn't win any of last 5 rounds

[crusader]

I had it a draw. Simpson and Smith are both promoted by Warren.
Simpson faded badly after round 7, possibly didn't win any of last 5 rounds

I really saw a different fight. I thought Simpson closed stronger.

[Old bones Ian]

Simpson still has time on his side to regain a title, he's only 27 himself. So he has a few more years if he wants, he never makes an easy night for anyone.

Smith would have learnt so much about himself last night, he now knows he can do the 12 rounds, its ok doing it in the gym, but you have to prove it in the ring and he did that. He's still at the stage where he can learn from his mistakes, he did lunge in a bit last night, and his defence needs work in places, he seemed open to the uppercut.
But he did have a good workrate, and didn't get discouaged when things looked like they were going wrong. Came through to win, which is the mark of a champion.

[punchers chance]

Anyone calling this a robbery is deluded.

So many rounds in the middle section were hard to score, and I wouldn't even criticise Ian John Lewis' card.

I had Swifty 115-113. I gave him rounds 1, 2, 3, 5, 10, and the majority of the others were so hard to score that they could have gone either way.

Tell you what, Simpson was a lot, lot tougher than I expected. I knew he was solid and would be a stern test, but his defence was top notch and I think he's improved even since his destruction of Truscott last time out.

Swifty needs to be given credit. In his 11th fight, he's gone to Scotland, made a huge step up and won. I'd love to see a rematch in Liverpool and I think Swifty will have learnt a hell of a lot from the fight last night.

I agree with you, no way was this a robbery.
I scored it 115-113 for Smith too, giving him rounds 1,2,3,5,6,7 & 10, and 4,8,9,11,12 for Simpson.
I honestly couldn't argue if rounds 6&7 had gone the other way and Simpson shaded it.
I do think Simpson has to think he threw it away with a slow start though. he showed no urgency & I bet he was 3 down across the board after the first 3 - that is a big obstacle to overcome.

[The Kirkby Kid]

This was an extremely close fight and it genuinely could have gone either way. I was surprised that Smith was given the decision, especially as he was challenging and was fighting in Scotland. Still, really pleased that he won and that Liverpool has another champion.

One annoying thing though, MC Mark Burdis really needs to practice his delivery when it comes to announcing judges' decisions. I'm sure he said that it was a majority decision - it was a split decision!

[bigped]

This was an extremely close fight and it genuinely could have gone either way. I was surprised that Smith was given the decision, especially as he was challenging and was fighting in Scotland. Still, really pleased that he won and that Liverpool has another champion.

One annoying thing though, MC Mark Burdis really needs to practice his delivery when it comes to announcing judges' decisions. I'm sure he said that it was a majority decision - it was a split decision!

craig stephen is the only man that should be doing any sort of mc job in scotland fact, smith was the hometown fighter hes the warren golden boy doesnt matter where it was always going to be hard for john,

[bigped]

Simpson still have a big future in the sport i hope this doesnt dishearten him to much, i see on esb forum billy nelson says he would like him to get a rematch and if he doesnt he wants him to drop down to super bantam for a title shot, John would be a beast down there would be sick how strong he would be

[mickey1975]

This was an extremely close fight and it genuinely could have gone either way. I was surprised that Smith was given the decision, especially as he was challenging and was fighting in Scotland. Still, really pleased that he won and that Liverpool has another champion.

One annoying thing though, MC Mark Burdis really needs to practice his delivery when it comes to announcing judges' decisions. I'm sure he said that it was a majority decision - it was a split decision!

The MC was correct,a split decision is called a majority in Britain

[Smokin Preedy]

There was a lot of rounds which could of gone either way. I personally had it as a draw.

[Counter-puncher]

i wouldn't argue with 7-5 either way or 6-6, but i was slightly distracted in a very full living room and can't say i watched every minute of every round closely.