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On the subject of Firemen:
I can't think of a more heroic and unselfish group of men. I take my hat off to each and every one of them. You included Charlie.
I can't think of a more heroic and unselfish group of men. I take my hat off to each and every one of them. You included Charlie.
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I hope all of you guys had a nice Labor Day. We BBQ'ed and chowed down on some carne asada and chicken. It was good!
Randy
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Early on I was not a big fan of Erik Morales, of the two, I preferred Marco Antonio Barrera but over time he got my attention. I always thought he conducted himself as a true professional and showed a lot of heart in his fights.bennie wrote:I was never a fan of Erik Morales. The tall Tijuana man bucked the classic Mexican fighting approach for swarming, snarling aggression as he stood off and picked straight, accurate punches. His cynical air, long before he ought to have been cynical, bothered me more. The very picture of aloofness, Erik is back again on Saturday when he tackles our own Willie Limond in a Mexico City 12-rounder.
Morales launched his comeback earlier this year with a 12-round decision over Nicaragua’s Jose Alfaro in Monterrey up at welterweight. The 34-year-old millionaire had dropped out of boxing in 2007 after a run of defeats, two at the hands of Manny Pacquiao. He gorged himself and turned up at boxing events, fat, bored, more aloof than ever. Morales dearly missed the sport, so his return in March raised few eyebrows and he looked surprisingly good against Alfaro, although he didn’t have much to beat. Morales, who promotes this fight, drops down to light-welterweight for Limond, who is no banger and fights at lightweight. Call Erik aloof, don’t call him stupid.
Morales has enough left to beat anyone outside the top six or seven in the world at light-welterweight (and thus Limond) and is angling for a fourth showdown with Marco Antonio Barrera if gets past Limond, whom he dismisses as a stepping stone. The venue for Saturday is a bullring, able to house 50,000; the day, a celebration of Mexican Independence. The size of the task facing Limond - one helluva f ucking joiner - gets bigger and bigger and bigger.
Yes, Limond goes over as the whipping boy but the gritty, seasoned, capable Scot will have seen Ricky Burns upset the odds against Puerto Rico’s previously unbeaten Rocky Martinez over the weekend and nearly upset the odds himself when he floored an unbeaten Amir Khan amid a bloody, thrilling encounter in London in 2007 – now a leading light-welterweight like Morales. Limond, with Billy Nelson in his corner that night, found Khan easy to nail with the right and looked set for stunning victory when a series put Khan down in the sixth round, but the china-chinned Khan dragged himself up, fired right back and turned the fight his way. Limond, now trained by Peter Harrison, was rescued by Nelson two rounds later.
Limond seriously marks up in his fights, and an eardrum has gone a few times, but the sheer size of Morales and the altitude pose bigger threats to the 31-year-old Glaswegian, taking part in his first ever fight outside Britain. Willie lacks obvious experience abroad but also the clout to discourage the bigger Morales, who will be sinking in the body shots and revelling in the conditions, and revelling in his comeback. The light is back in Erik’s narrow eyes, the smirk on his thin lips.
Willie has enough guts and boxing ability to make it through to the final bell, where Morales takes the points, but a points defeat is as good as it gets on his own personal Mission Impossible.
I don't think he can beat Marquez at this stage of his career. Too bad they never met when both of them were in their primes. I'm not sure how his comeback will work out but I wish him luck.
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Things don't just happen . . .
Liam Neeson is Irish. Great actor, A-list quality.
He has a passion, boxing, like us.
We'll walk an extra mile for boxing, guys like us.
He's connected with Freddie Gilroy, an Irish legend.
These are the ingredients of a story, and could prove the foundation of an event.
Liam Neeson is Irish. Great actor, A-list quality.
He has a passion, boxing, like us.
We'll walk an extra mile for boxing, guys like us.
He's connected with Freddie Gilroy, an Irish legend.
These are the ingredients of a story, and could prove the foundation of an event.
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You're right, Randy! And I saw the movie about three times.Randyman wrote:I can see how it would be easy to confuse the two, with both of them being tall and rangy but I believe it was Daniel Day Lewis that appeared in the 1997 film "The Boxer". I thought he made a believable boxer, not all actors do. Regardless both Neeson and Lewis strike me as two men that can take car of themselves.Rick Farris wrote:Rick Farris wrote:Liam Neeson brings Hollywood glamour to Belfast boxing exhibition
Hollywood star Liam Neeson has officially launched a new exhibition at Belfast City Hall, celebrating the history of boxing in the city.
Neeson, whose big screen hits include Schindler’s List, Michael Collins, Batman Begins, Narnia and Clash Of The Titans, also became a patron of a new initiative known as The Belfast Boxing Ring – a committee chaired by former Belfast Lord Mayor Alex Maskey and set up with the aim of commissioning a series of statues and plaques recognising the sport’s contribution to Belfast.
Neeson, himself a former amateur boxer who fought for the Ballymena All-Saints Club, also took the opportunity to have his picture taken with Belfast fight legend Freddie Gilroy (right). Over 40 years ago as a young amateur fighter Neeson was photographed meeting his hero when Gilroy reigned as British champion.
Ballymena-born Neeson, 58, cut the ribbon at the launch of the Belfast Boxing Ring’s exhibition which will show off some never-seen-before images of boxers and memorable moments in Belfast’s boxing history.
Neeson said: “It is an honour to be invited to become a patron of Belfast Boxing Ring and I support the aim of the committee to have the sport recognised in the city. Boxing has played such an important role in the development of Belfast throughout difficult times and has a huge part to play in the future.”
Boxing legend Freddie Gilroy said: “It’s an honour to have met Liam after all these years. I believe it was 47 years ago that Liam and I were pictured together and now we have a then and now picture which I will treasure. Liam is a wonderful man.”
The Belfast Boxing Ring is an initiative recognised by Belfast City Council and formed by ex-Lord Mayor of the city, Alex Maskey, who is also a former amateur boxer. The Belfast Boxing Ring Committee includes Mr Harry Doherty, Mr Eamon McAuley, Mr Barry Flynn, Mr Alex McGreevy and Mr David Larmour. Neeson met with the committee at Belfast City Hall yesterday to confirm his patronage of the Belfast Boxing Ring.
Alex Maskey, who as an amateur boxer shared fight cards with Neeson, said: “The story of Belfast would not be complete without recognising the huge contribution made to the life of the city by all those involved in boxing.
“The achievements of our boxing fraternity have been legendary and continue to provide us with untold enjoyment combined with a great sense of pride.
“We are rightly proud of the rich contribution boxing has made to the sporting, cultural, and community wellbeing of our city. Belfast Boxing Ring will celebrate and pay tribute to those past and present by commissioning a series of statues and plaques to be erected around our city.”
The Belfast Boxing Ring exhibition opens to the public tomorrow.
This one can fight . . .
I watched Liam Neeson in "The Boxer" and I could see that he had been a boxer.
In that film he impressed me with his boxing skills, unlike most boxing pics when actors play boxers.
That Daniel Day-Lewis was one helluva good boxer, huh?
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Thank You for your kind sentiments Randy
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Yes, Neeson was good enough to box for Ireland in the amateurs.Randyman wrote:I can see how it would be easy to confuse the two, with both of them being tall and rangy but I believe it was Daniel Day Lewis that appeared in the 1997 film "The Boxer". I thought he made a believable boxer, not all actors do. Regardless both Neeson and Lewis strike me as two men that can take car of themselves.Rick Farris wrote:Rick Farris wrote:Liam Neeson brings Hollywood glamour to Belfast boxing exhibition
Hollywood star Liam Neeson has officially launched a new exhibition at Belfast City Hall, celebrating the history of boxing in the city.
Neeson, whose big screen hits include Schindler’s List, Michael Collins, Batman Begins, Narnia and Clash Of The Titans, also became a patron of a new initiative known as The Belfast Boxing Ring – a committee chaired by former Belfast Lord Mayor Alex Maskey and set up with the aim of commissioning a series of statues and plaques recognising the sport’s contribution to Belfast.
Neeson, himself a former amateur boxer who fought for the Ballymena All-Saints Club, also took the opportunity to have his picture taken with Belfast fight legend Freddie Gilroy (right). Over 40 years ago as a young amateur fighter Neeson was photographed meeting his hero when Gilroy reigned as British champion.
Ballymena-born Neeson, 58, cut the ribbon at the launch of the Belfast Boxing Ring’s exhibition which will show off some never-seen-before images of boxers and memorable moments in Belfast’s boxing history.
Neeson said: “It is an honour to be invited to become a patron of Belfast Boxing Ring and I support the aim of the committee to have the sport recognised in the city. Boxing has played such an important role in the development of Belfast throughout difficult times and has a huge part to play in the future.”
Boxing legend Freddie Gilroy said: “It’s an honour to have met Liam after all these years. I believe it was 47 years ago that Liam and I were pictured together and now we have a then and now picture which I will treasure. Liam is a wonderful man.”
The Belfast Boxing Ring is an initiative recognised by Belfast City Council and formed by ex-Lord Mayor of the city, Alex Maskey, who is also a former amateur boxer. The Belfast Boxing Ring Committee includes Mr Harry Doherty, Mr Eamon McAuley, Mr Barry Flynn, Mr Alex McGreevy and Mr David Larmour. Neeson met with the committee at Belfast City Hall yesterday to confirm his patronage of the Belfast Boxing Ring.
Alex Maskey, who as an amateur boxer shared fight cards with Neeson, said: “The story of Belfast would not be complete without recognising the huge contribution made to the life of the city by all those involved in boxing.
“The achievements of our boxing fraternity have been legendary and continue to provide us with untold enjoyment combined with a great sense of pride.
“We are rightly proud of the rich contribution boxing has made to the sporting, cultural, and community wellbeing of our city. Belfast Boxing Ring will celebrate and pay tribute to those past and present by commissioning a series of statues and plaques to be erected around our city.”
The Belfast Boxing Ring exhibition opens to the public tomorrow.
This one can fight . . .
I watched Liam Neeson in "The Boxer" and I could see that he had been a boxer.
In that film he impressed me with his boxing skills, unlike most boxing pics when actors play boxers.
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Plan on showing "The Ring" next week at the GSBA meeting..Rick Farris wrote:Good idea!kikibalt wrote:On a boring Sunday I'm watching "The Ring"
I have mine right on the shelf above.
We get a flash of Keeny Teran in the ring, and on the heavy bag.
There is another actor, his last name is Martinez, who played one of the fighter's homies.
The actor also played in the 50's/60's TV series, The Real McCoy's, he played "Pepino" opposite Walter Brennan and Richard Crenna.
And of course, Rita Moreno.
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Frank . . .
Do you know if there is a GSBA meeting today?
If so, are you going?
Do you know if there is a GSBA meeting today?
If so, are you going?
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"I trained even when I was ill."
Charlie Magri.
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There is a meeting planned for today, but, Don Fraser was going to try to cancel it, either way, I was not planning on going today.....Rick Farris wrote:Frank . . .
Do you know if there is a GSBA meeting today?
If so, are you going?
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Thanks, Frank. I have an afternoon studio call nearby and thought about having lunch there beforehand.kikibalt wrote:There is a meeting planned for today, but, Don Fraser was going to try to cancel it, either way, I was not planning on going today.....Rick Farris wrote:Frank . . .
Do you know if there is a GSBA meeting today?
If so, are you going?
If you and Don aren't going to be there, I'll wait until another time.
Eventually, I'd like to run a couple of the interviews that Dan Hanley & I did in 2007.
We have Mando Ramos' last interview, Lou Filippo's last, as well. El Gato, Mando Muniz, Carlos Ortiz, Yaqui Lopez, etc.
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Expug wrote:Happy Birthday Tom.
Remember,the older the bull the stiffer the horn.
I use the "Less hair, more head" line alot.
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Great idea Rick, showing the interviews......Rick Farris wrote:Thanks, Frank. I have an afternoon studio call nearby and thought about having lunch there beforehand.kikibalt wrote:There is a meeting planned for today, but, Don Fraser was going to try to cancel it, either way, I was not planning on going today.....Rick Farris wrote:Frank . . .
Do you know if there is a GSBA meeting today?
If so, are you going?
If you and Don aren't going to be there, I'll wait until another time.
Eventually, I'd like to run a couple of the interviews that Dan Hanley & I did in 2007.
We have Mando Ramos' last interview, Lou Filippo's last, as well. El Gato, Mando Muniz, Carlos Ortiz, Yaqui Lopez, etc.
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A true legend. The great Chet Atkins singing about his pop.
Tough not to get choked up from this one. It'll bring a tear to a glass eye.
Especially for those missing their Dad.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jEsVHGvjqEU
Tough not to get choked up from this one. It'll bring a tear to a glass eye.
Especially for those missing their Dad.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jEsVHGvjqEU
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Our Great white Hope appears on American-TV on Friday. His name is Tyson Fury. I've never seen him fight but he has talent, say some.
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bennie wrote:
Our Great white Hope appears on American-TV on Friday. His name is Tyson Fury. I've never seen him fight but he has talent, say some.
The name Tyson Fury suggests action.
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Or angry chickensRick Farris wrote:bennie wrote:
Our Great white Hope appears on American-TV on Friday. His name is Tyson Fury. I've never seen him fight but he has talent, say some.
The name Tyson Fury suggests action.
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Amir Khan fighting a puncher? Never! Talk of Khan defending his WBA light-welterweight title against Argentine banger Marcos Maidana on December 11 in this country brings out the Thomas Doubter in us boxing fans. Khan was smashed inside a minute when he last ran into a puncher two years ago, since when the Bolton boy has picked on those who would struggle to knock the skin off a rice pudding. Then there is Maidana, whose record of 29-1 (27) speaks for itself in terms of sheer power, with the lone defeat to Ukrainian craftsman Andreas Kotelnik on a 12-round split decision last year, although Maidana has pushed his luck a couple of times since. Nevertheless, Khan-Maidana, if it happens, is boxer v puncher, bull versus the matador - potentially the biggest boxing surprise of 2010.
Just five months after Maidana lost out to Kotelnik in Germany, Khan took on Kotenik himself in Manchester and breezed to a 12-round decision. Logic would have it that Khan must be better than Maidana, then, but logic has no place in a wildly unpredictable sport like boxing. Styles make fights, and Maidana poses a very real threat to the reign and the career longevity of the 23-year-old Khan, who went down like a tree against Colombia’s Breidis Prescott in Manchester in September 2008 and appeared to have no punch resistance whatsoever.
The loser, 23-1 (17), was back a few months later, feasting on the first of five soft-punching opponents since, including Kotelnik for the WBA title, a title he has retained twice. You tip your hat to the young man, and his backers, for rebuilding so well and so quickly from such a catastrophe; you tip your hat again if Maidana stands across the ring from him in December.
Amir Khan is tantalisingly close to true boxing redemption. Maidana is no lightweight, no old man (27); he’s not particularly weak in any department, having climbed off the floor to overwhelm the much-touted Victor Ortiz in a six-round thriller last year. As well as his destructive power, Maidana has also proven he can do the full championship 12 rounds.
For us cynical, moaning, ball-scratching Brits, this fight is every bit as good as Khan fighting Breidis Prescott again.
Just five months after Maidana lost out to Kotelnik in Germany, Khan took on Kotenik himself in Manchester and breezed to a 12-round decision. Logic would have it that Khan must be better than Maidana, then, but logic has no place in a wildly unpredictable sport like boxing. Styles make fights, and Maidana poses a very real threat to the reign and the career longevity of the 23-year-old Khan, who went down like a tree against Colombia’s Breidis Prescott in Manchester in September 2008 and appeared to have no punch resistance whatsoever.
The loser, 23-1 (17), was back a few months later, feasting on the first of five soft-punching opponents since, including Kotelnik for the WBA title, a title he has retained twice. You tip your hat to the young man, and his backers, for rebuilding so well and so quickly from such a catastrophe; you tip your hat again if Maidana stands across the ring from him in December.
Amir Khan is tantalisingly close to true boxing redemption. Maidana is no lightweight, no old man (27); he’s not particularly weak in any department, having climbed off the floor to overwhelm the much-touted Victor Ortiz in a six-round thriller last year. As well as his destructive power, Maidana has also proven he can do the full championship 12 rounds.
For us cynical, moaning, ball-scratching Brits, this fight is every bit as good as Khan fighting Breidis Prescott again.
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I've seen chickens that were fighters, and fighters that were chickens.raylawpc wrote:Or angry chickensRick Farris wrote:bennie wrote:
Our Great white Hope appears on American-TV on Friday. His name is Tyson Fury. I've never seen him fight but he has talent, say some.
The name Tyson Fury suggests action.![]()
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("Tyson's Chickens" is a major poultry processing company in the Midwest.)
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I shall always respect Maidana for being a man and climbing off the canvas to expose a West Coast imposter named Victor Ortiz.bennie wrote:Amir Khan fighting a puncher? Never! Talk of Khan defending his WBA light-welterweight title against Argentine banger Marcos Maidana on December 11 in this country brings out the Thomas Doubter in us boxing fans. Khan was smashed inside a minute when he last ran into a puncher two years ago, since when the Bolton boy has picked on those who would struggle to knock the skin off a rice pudding. Then there is Maidana, whose record of 29-1 (27) speaks for itself in terms of sheer power, with the lone defeat to Ukrainian craftsman Andreas Kotelnik on a 12-round split decision last year, although Maidana has pushed his luck a couple of times since. Nevertheless, Khan-Maidana, if it happens, is boxer v puncher, bull versus the matador - potentially the biggest boxing surprise of 2010.
Just five months after Maidana lost out to Kotelnik in Germany, Khan took on Kotenik himself in Manchester and breezed to a 12-round decision. Logic would have it that Khan must be better than Maidana, then, but logic has no place in a wildly unpredictable sport like boxing. Styles make fights, and Maidana poses a very real threat to the reign and the career longevity of the 23-year-old Khan, who went down like a tree against Colombia’s Breidis Prescott in Manchester in September 2008 and appeared to have no punch resistance whatsoever.
The loser, 23-1 (17), was back a few months later, feasting on the first of five soft-punching opponents since, including Kotelnik for the WBA title, a title he has retained twice. You tip your hat to the young man, and his backers, for rebuilding so well and so quickly from such a catastrophe; you tip your hat again if Maidana stands across the ring from him in December.
Amir Khan is tantalisingly close to true boxing redemption. Maidana is no lightweight, no old man (27); he’s not particularly weak in any department, having climbed off the floor to overwhelm the much-touted Victor Ortiz in a six-round thriller last year. As well as his destructive power, Maidana has also proven he can do the full championship 12 rounds.
For us cynical, moaning, ball-scratching Brits, this fight is every bit as good as Khan fighting Breidis Prescott again.
He not only brings the bomb, he brings a huge heart. I see a competitive fight.
If Khan fights this guy in December, nobody can criticize him for never taking a chance.
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Sad to say that former heavyweight opponent Lorenzo Boyd will die shortly without a kidney transplant.
The 50-year-old American fought all the names in a career spanning 20 years, including a rising Mike Tyson in 1986, Trevor Berbick, Bert Cooper, Michael Moorer, Tommy Morrison, Tyrell Biggs, James Tillis, Glenn McCrory, Joe Hipp, James Pritchard, William Guthrie, Vaughn Bean, Ross Puritty, Cliff Couser, Rob Calloway, Dale Crowe, and, in this country, Gary Mason. I could go on and on.
Boyd was no world-beater but went in there with the very best and that, surely, is an accomplishment in itself.
The 50-year-old American fought all the names in a career spanning 20 years, including a rising Mike Tyson in 1986, Trevor Berbick, Bert Cooper, Michael Moorer, Tommy Morrison, Tyrell Biggs, James Tillis, Glenn McCrory, Joe Hipp, James Pritchard, William Guthrie, Vaughn Bean, Ross Puritty, Cliff Couser, Rob Calloway, Dale Crowe, and, in this country, Gary Mason. I could go on and on.
Boyd was no world-beater but went in there with the very best and that, surely, is an accomplishment in itself.
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Rudy Garcia
Another forgotten great action Los Angeles fighter
birth date 1929-04-12
division featherweight
height 5′ 4″ / 163cm
country United States
residence Los Angeles, California, United States
birth place Los Angeles, California, United States
won 35 (KO 19) + lost 13 (KO 3) + drawn 1 = 49
rounds boxed 368 KO% 38.78
1957-04-06 129¼ Ernesto Figueroa 128 24-4-0
Legion Stadium, Hollywood, California, United States L UD 10 10
~ referee: Abe Roth 90-95 | judge: John Thomas 84-95 | judge: Jack McDonald 84-95 ~
Garcia was down three times in the 10th round, and was on the floor, with the count at five, when the final bell rang. Garcia was also knocked down once in the 8th, Figueroa was down twice in the 5th round, and once in the 9th.
1957-02-21 125½ Billy Peacock 122½ 35-11-1
Olympic Auditorium, Los Angeles, California, United States L UD 10 10
~ referee: Dynamite Jackson 93-98 | judge: Frankie Van 95-99 | judge: Reggie Gilmore 93-98 ~
1957-01-17 129 Bobby Bell 130 41-26-5
Olympic Auditorium, Los Angeles, California, United States W UD 10 10
~ referee: Dick Young 97-94 | judge: Tommy Herman 98-95 | judge: Abe Roth 98-96 ~
1956-10-30 126 Billy Peacock 122½ 34-11-0
Olympic Auditorium, Los Angeles, California, United States L TKO 6 12
~ time: 2:38 | referee: Mushy Callahan 46-45 | judge: Frankie Van 49-46 | judge: Jack McDonald 47-47 ~
The favored Garcia was ahead for four rounds, but Peacock hurt him in round five and cut his eye, and in the sixth connected with a devastating left hook that put his opponent down and then in no condition to continue.
1956-09-25 125¾ Jose Toluco Lopez 124 27-5-2
Olympic Auditorium, Los Angeles, California, United States W KO 1 10
~ time: 0:50 | referee: Frankie Van ~
Lopez was knocked down twice.
1956-08-16 131 Larry Vasquez 130 12-3-1
San Francisco Gardens, San Francisco, California, United States W TKO 6 10
Vasquez pulled out with a damaged jaw.
1956-07-19 129 Cesar Saavedra 129 52-28-8
Olympic Auditorium, Los Angeles, California, United States W KO 5 10
~ time: 1:22 | referee: Jimmy Wilson ~
Saavedra was knocked down once in the 4th and 5th round.
1956-07-09 Frankie Salas 9-7-2
Sports Center, Tucson, Arizona, United States W PTS 10 10
1956-06-18 128 Collier Cox 127 11-10-4
Tucson, Arizona, United States W TKO 8 10
1956-06-08 Joel Sanchez 2-1-0
Ensenada, Baja California, Mexico L DQ 10 10
1956-05-26 Joel Sanchez 2-0-0
Ensenada, Baja California, Mexico W PTS 10 10
1955-08-06 128¼ Gil Cadilli 126½ 22-4-4
Legion Stadium, Hollywood, California, United States L TKO 7 10
~ time: 1:16 | referee: Mushy Callahan ~
Garcia was knocked down once in the 7th round, and three times in the 8th round.
1955-04-25 129 Lulu Perez 128 32-5-1
Eastern Parkway Arena, Brooklyn, New York, United States L UD 10 10
~ referee: Ray Miller 3-5 | judge: Joe Agnello 3-7 | judge: Bill Recht 1-7 ~
1955-03-14 126¾ Nate Brooks 125 10-4-0
Eastern Parkway Arena, Brooklyn, New York, United States W TKO 4 10
Brooks was down three times in the 4th forcing an automatic stoppage.
1955-01-10 128 Bobby Bell 126½ 39-20-4
Eastern Parkway Arena, Brooklyn, New York, United States L UD 10 10
~ referee: Mark Conn 4-5 | judge: Joe Agnello 4-6 | judge: Arthur Schwartz 3-6 ~
1954-12-13 128¼ Gene Smith 130 42-5-1
Eastern Parkway Arena, Brooklyn, New York, United States W TKO 6 10
~ time: 0:11 | referee: Harry Ebbets ~
1954-11-13 128 Augie Villa 127½ 7-2-1
Legion Stadium, Hollywood, California, United States W UD 10 10
1954-10-25 128 Carmelo Costa 128½ 24-0-2
Eastern Parkway Arena, Brooklyn, New York, United States W MD 10 10
~ referee: Barney Felix 9-6 | judge: Joe Agnello 8-5 | judge: Joe Eppy 8-8 ~
1954-09-25 125¾ Al Cruz 125 23-4-2
Legion Stadium, Hollywood, California, United States W UD 12 12
~ USA California State featherweight title ~
1953-12-08 126 Al Cruz 124½ 21-3-1
Olympic Auditorium, Los Angeles, California, United States L SD 12 12
~ referee: Charley Randolph 61-70 | judge: Lee Grossman 66-65 | judge: Frankie Van 65-66 ~
California State Featherweight Title Eliminator
Garcia was knocked down for an eight-count in the 3rd round.
1953-10-27 130¼ Auburn Copeland 125¼ 27-2-1
Olympic Auditorium, Los Angeles, California, United States W SD 10 10
~ referee: Charley Randolph 54-55 | judge: Jimmy Wilson 57½-51½ | judge: Jack McDonald 57-52 ~
1953-09-26 Baby Neff Ortiz 29-8-3
Mexico City, Distrito Federal, Mexico L PTS 10 10
1953-08-15 Baby Neff Ortiz 28-8-3
Mexico City, Distrito Federal, Mexico L PTS 12 12
1953-07-11 Dave Gallardo 46-14-5
Legion Stadium, Hollywood, California, United States L TD 6 12
~ USA California State featherweight title ~
1953-06-13 Chico Rosa 32-17-2
Legion Stadium, Hollywood, California, United States W TKO 8 10
1953-04-04 129 Reuben Smith 129 18-8-4
Legion Stadium, Hollywood, California, United States W UD 10 10
~ referee: Joe Stone 58-52 | judge: Tommy Herman 58-52 | judge: Dynamite Jackson 60-50 ~
1951-01-05 128½ Lauro Salas 128¾ 39-15-6
Legion Stadium, Hollywood, California, United States W PTS 10 10
~ referee: Reggie Gilmore 56½-53½ ~
1950-12-08 125 Lauro Salas 125 38-15-6
Legion Stadium, Hollywood, California, United States L UD 12 12
~ referee: Mushy Callahan 64-68 | judge: Jack McDonald 63½-68½ | judge: Johnny Indrisano 64½-67½ ~
~ USA California State featherweight title ~
1950-10-13 127½ Conrado Castanon 125½ 8-1-3
Legion Stadium, Hollywood, California, United States W TKO 8 10
~ time: 1:11 | referee: Joe Stone ~
Castanon was knocked down once in the 1st, 2nd, and 8th round.
1950-08-11 128½ Rudy Vasquez 127½ 9-4-4
Legion Stadium, Hollywood, California, United States W TKO 4 10
~ time: 1:58 | referee: Frankie Van ~
Vasquez was knocked down twice in the 2nd round.
1950-07-14 126 Harold Dade 125¾ 37-19-6
Legion Stadium, Hollywood, California, United States W TKO 11 12
~ time: 2:48 | referee: Joe Stone 57½-52½ | judge: Jimmy Wallace 58-52 | judge: Jack McDonald 56-54 ~
~ vacant USA California State featherweight title ~
Dade was knocked down twice in the 11th round.
1950-05-15 127½ Rudy Vasquez 130½ 9-3-4
Arena, Ocean Park, California, United States W UD 10 10
~ referee: Johnny Indrisano ~
1950-04-20 129 Rudy Vasquez 130 9-2-4
Arena, South Gate, California, United States W TKO 4 10
~ referee: Charley Randolph ~
Vasquez was knoced down twice in the 4th round.
1949-12-13 128½ Rocky Lucero 130 15-6-2
Olympic Auditorium, Los Angeles, California, United States L TKO 9 10
~ time: 1:25 | referee: Frankie Van 43½-44½ | judge: Lee Grossman 42½-45½ | judge: Jack McDonald 40-48 ~
A bad cut over Garcia's left eye, led to the stoppage. Garcia was knocked down for no-count in the 5th round.
1949-10-18 130 Joey Clemo 129½ 18-15-11
Olympic Auditorium, Los Angeles, California, United States W UD 10 10
~ referee: Abe Roth | judge: Frank Rustich | judge: Jack McDonald ~
1949-09-23 126 Jackie Blair 126¼ 42-6-7
Legion Stadium, Hollywood, California, United States W UD 10 10
~ referee: Reggie Gilmore | judge: Dynamite Jackson | judge: Frank Holborow ~
1949-07-12 127 Jimmy Savala 127 20-0-0
Olympic Auditorium, Los Angeles, California, United States W SD 10 10
1949-06-24 125½ Little Palma 127½ 0-3-0
Legion Stadium, Hollywood, California, United States W KO 2 10
~ referee: Johnny Indrisano ~
1949-05-17 126 Alex Arenas 128 11-4-2
Olympic Auditorium, Los Angeles, California, United States W UD 10 10
~ referee: Johnny Indrisano 57-53 | judge: Benny Whitman 57-53 | judge: Jack McDonald 56½-53½ ~
1949-03-01 125¼ Panchito Uribe 125¼ 3-4-0
Olympic Auditorium, Los Angeles, California, United States W UD 10 10
1949-01-18 125¼ Panchito Uribe 126¾ 3-3-0
Olympic Auditorium, Los Angeles, California, United States W TKO 8 10
~ time: 1:22 | referee: Dynamite Jackson ~
Garcia was dropped for a nine-count in the 1st round. The bout was stopped due to a bloody ear suffered by Uribe.
1948-12-14 125½ Roosevelt Bonner 128 17-16-7
Olympic Auditorium, Los Angeles, California, United States W TKO 1 4
1948-12-10 127 Cadillac Clemmons 125 5-12-0
Legion Stadium, Hollywood, California, United States W TKO 1 4
1948-11-23 125¾ Manuel Hernandez 120 5-6-2
Olympic Auditorium, Los Angeles, California, United States W KO 1 4
1948-11-09 125 Reuben Torres 128 3-0-1
Olympic Auditorium, Los Angeles, California, United States W PTS 4 4
1948-10-29 126½ Reuben Torres 128½ 2-0-0
Legion Stadium, Hollywood, California, United States D PTS 4 4
1948-10-12 127 Chuck Edwards 128 20-21-2
Olympic Auditorium, Los Angeles, California, United States W KO 1 4
1948-09-07 126 Cadillac Clemmons 127¼ 4-5-0
Olympic Auditorium, Los Angeles, California, United States W TKO 3 4
1948-08-24 Santos Salas 0-1-0
Olympic Auditorium, Los Angeles, California, United States W KO 2 4
Another forgotten great action Los Angeles fighter
birth date 1929-04-12
division featherweight
height 5′ 4″ / 163cm
country United States
residence Los Angeles, California, United States
birth place Los Angeles, California, United States
won 35 (KO 19) + lost 13 (KO 3) + drawn 1 = 49
rounds boxed 368 KO% 38.78
1957-04-06 129¼ Ernesto Figueroa 128 24-4-0
Legion Stadium, Hollywood, California, United States L UD 10 10
~ referee: Abe Roth 90-95 | judge: John Thomas 84-95 | judge: Jack McDonald 84-95 ~
Garcia was down three times in the 10th round, and was on the floor, with the count at five, when the final bell rang. Garcia was also knocked down once in the 8th, Figueroa was down twice in the 5th round, and once in the 9th.
1957-02-21 125½ Billy Peacock 122½ 35-11-1
Olympic Auditorium, Los Angeles, California, United States L UD 10 10
~ referee: Dynamite Jackson 93-98 | judge: Frankie Van 95-99 | judge: Reggie Gilmore 93-98 ~
1957-01-17 129 Bobby Bell 130 41-26-5
Olympic Auditorium, Los Angeles, California, United States W UD 10 10
~ referee: Dick Young 97-94 | judge: Tommy Herman 98-95 | judge: Abe Roth 98-96 ~
1956-10-30 126 Billy Peacock 122½ 34-11-0
Olympic Auditorium, Los Angeles, California, United States L TKO 6 12
~ time: 2:38 | referee: Mushy Callahan 46-45 | judge: Frankie Van 49-46 | judge: Jack McDonald 47-47 ~
The favored Garcia was ahead for four rounds, but Peacock hurt him in round five and cut his eye, and in the sixth connected with a devastating left hook that put his opponent down and then in no condition to continue.
1956-09-25 125¾ Jose Toluco Lopez 124 27-5-2
Olympic Auditorium, Los Angeles, California, United States W KO 1 10
~ time: 0:50 | referee: Frankie Van ~
Lopez was knocked down twice.
1956-08-16 131 Larry Vasquez 130 12-3-1
San Francisco Gardens, San Francisco, California, United States W TKO 6 10
Vasquez pulled out with a damaged jaw.
1956-07-19 129 Cesar Saavedra 129 52-28-8
Olympic Auditorium, Los Angeles, California, United States W KO 5 10
~ time: 1:22 | referee: Jimmy Wilson ~
Saavedra was knocked down once in the 4th and 5th round.
1956-07-09 Frankie Salas 9-7-2
Sports Center, Tucson, Arizona, United States W PTS 10 10
1956-06-18 128 Collier Cox 127 11-10-4
Tucson, Arizona, United States W TKO 8 10
1956-06-08 Joel Sanchez 2-1-0
Ensenada, Baja California, Mexico L DQ 10 10
1956-05-26 Joel Sanchez 2-0-0
Ensenada, Baja California, Mexico W PTS 10 10
1955-08-06 128¼ Gil Cadilli 126½ 22-4-4
Legion Stadium, Hollywood, California, United States L TKO 7 10
~ time: 1:16 | referee: Mushy Callahan ~
Garcia was knocked down once in the 7th round, and three times in the 8th round.
1955-04-25 129 Lulu Perez 128 32-5-1
Eastern Parkway Arena, Brooklyn, New York, United States L UD 10 10
~ referee: Ray Miller 3-5 | judge: Joe Agnello 3-7 | judge: Bill Recht 1-7 ~
1955-03-14 126¾ Nate Brooks 125 10-4-0
Eastern Parkway Arena, Brooklyn, New York, United States W TKO 4 10
Brooks was down three times in the 4th forcing an automatic stoppage.
1955-01-10 128 Bobby Bell 126½ 39-20-4
Eastern Parkway Arena, Brooklyn, New York, United States L UD 10 10
~ referee: Mark Conn 4-5 | judge: Joe Agnello 4-6 | judge: Arthur Schwartz 3-6 ~
1954-12-13 128¼ Gene Smith 130 42-5-1
Eastern Parkway Arena, Brooklyn, New York, United States W TKO 6 10
~ time: 0:11 | referee: Harry Ebbets ~
1954-11-13 128 Augie Villa 127½ 7-2-1
Legion Stadium, Hollywood, California, United States W UD 10 10
1954-10-25 128 Carmelo Costa 128½ 24-0-2
Eastern Parkway Arena, Brooklyn, New York, United States W MD 10 10
~ referee: Barney Felix 9-6 | judge: Joe Agnello 8-5 | judge: Joe Eppy 8-8 ~
1954-09-25 125¾ Al Cruz 125 23-4-2
Legion Stadium, Hollywood, California, United States W UD 12 12
~ USA California State featherweight title ~
1953-12-08 126 Al Cruz 124½ 21-3-1
Olympic Auditorium, Los Angeles, California, United States L SD 12 12
~ referee: Charley Randolph 61-70 | judge: Lee Grossman 66-65 | judge: Frankie Van 65-66 ~
California State Featherweight Title Eliminator
Garcia was knocked down for an eight-count in the 3rd round.
1953-10-27 130¼ Auburn Copeland 125¼ 27-2-1
Olympic Auditorium, Los Angeles, California, United States W SD 10 10
~ referee: Charley Randolph 54-55 | judge: Jimmy Wilson 57½-51½ | judge: Jack McDonald 57-52 ~
1953-09-26 Baby Neff Ortiz 29-8-3
Mexico City, Distrito Federal, Mexico L PTS 10 10
1953-08-15 Baby Neff Ortiz 28-8-3
Mexico City, Distrito Federal, Mexico L PTS 12 12
1953-07-11 Dave Gallardo 46-14-5
Legion Stadium, Hollywood, California, United States L TD 6 12
~ USA California State featherweight title ~
1953-06-13 Chico Rosa 32-17-2
Legion Stadium, Hollywood, California, United States W TKO 8 10
1953-04-04 129 Reuben Smith 129 18-8-4
Legion Stadium, Hollywood, California, United States W UD 10 10
~ referee: Joe Stone 58-52 | judge: Tommy Herman 58-52 | judge: Dynamite Jackson 60-50 ~
1951-01-05 128½ Lauro Salas 128¾ 39-15-6
Legion Stadium, Hollywood, California, United States W PTS 10 10
~ referee: Reggie Gilmore 56½-53½ ~
1950-12-08 125 Lauro Salas 125 38-15-6
Legion Stadium, Hollywood, California, United States L UD 12 12
~ referee: Mushy Callahan 64-68 | judge: Jack McDonald 63½-68½ | judge: Johnny Indrisano 64½-67½ ~
~ USA California State featherweight title ~
1950-10-13 127½ Conrado Castanon 125½ 8-1-3
Legion Stadium, Hollywood, California, United States W TKO 8 10
~ time: 1:11 | referee: Joe Stone ~
Castanon was knocked down once in the 1st, 2nd, and 8th round.
1950-08-11 128½ Rudy Vasquez 127½ 9-4-4
Legion Stadium, Hollywood, California, United States W TKO 4 10
~ time: 1:58 | referee: Frankie Van ~
Vasquez was knocked down twice in the 2nd round.
1950-07-14 126 Harold Dade 125¾ 37-19-6
Legion Stadium, Hollywood, California, United States W TKO 11 12
~ time: 2:48 | referee: Joe Stone 57½-52½ | judge: Jimmy Wallace 58-52 | judge: Jack McDonald 56-54 ~
~ vacant USA California State featherweight title ~
Dade was knocked down twice in the 11th round.
1950-05-15 127½ Rudy Vasquez 130½ 9-3-4
Arena, Ocean Park, California, United States W UD 10 10
~ referee: Johnny Indrisano ~
1950-04-20 129 Rudy Vasquez 130 9-2-4
Arena, South Gate, California, United States W TKO 4 10
~ referee: Charley Randolph ~
Vasquez was knoced down twice in the 4th round.
1949-12-13 128½ Rocky Lucero 130 15-6-2
Olympic Auditorium, Los Angeles, California, United States L TKO 9 10
~ time: 1:25 | referee: Frankie Van 43½-44½ | judge: Lee Grossman 42½-45½ | judge: Jack McDonald 40-48 ~
A bad cut over Garcia's left eye, led to the stoppage. Garcia was knocked down for no-count in the 5th round.
1949-10-18 130 Joey Clemo 129½ 18-15-11
Olympic Auditorium, Los Angeles, California, United States W UD 10 10
~ referee: Abe Roth | judge: Frank Rustich | judge: Jack McDonald ~
1949-09-23 126 Jackie Blair 126¼ 42-6-7
Legion Stadium, Hollywood, California, United States W UD 10 10
~ referee: Reggie Gilmore | judge: Dynamite Jackson | judge: Frank Holborow ~
1949-07-12 127 Jimmy Savala 127 20-0-0
Olympic Auditorium, Los Angeles, California, United States W SD 10 10
1949-06-24 125½ Little Palma 127½ 0-3-0
Legion Stadium, Hollywood, California, United States W KO 2 10
~ referee: Johnny Indrisano ~
1949-05-17 126 Alex Arenas 128 11-4-2
Olympic Auditorium, Los Angeles, California, United States W UD 10 10
~ referee: Johnny Indrisano 57-53 | judge: Benny Whitman 57-53 | judge: Jack McDonald 56½-53½ ~
1949-03-01 125¼ Panchito Uribe 125¼ 3-4-0
Olympic Auditorium, Los Angeles, California, United States W UD 10 10
1949-01-18 125¼ Panchito Uribe 126¾ 3-3-0
Olympic Auditorium, Los Angeles, California, United States W TKO 8 10
~ time: 1:22 | referee: Dynamite Jackson ~
Garcia was dropped for a nine-count in the 1st round. The bout was stopped due to a bloody ear suffered by Uribe.
1948-12-14 125½ Roosevelt Bonner 128 17-16-7
Olympic Auditorium, Los Angeles, California, United States W TKO 1 4
1948-12-10 127 Cadillac Clemmons 125 5-12-0
Legion Stadium, Hollywood, California, United States W TKO 1 4
1948-11-23 125¾ Manuel Hernandez 120 5-6-2
Olympic Auditorium, Los Angeles, California, United States W KO 1 4
1948-11-09 125 Reuben Torres 128 3-0-1
Olympic Auditorium, Los Angeles, California, United States W PTS 4 4
1948-10-29 126½ Reuben Torres 128½ 2-0-0
Legion Stadium, Hollywood, California, United States D PTS 4 4
1948-10-12 127 Chuck Edwards 128 20-21-2
Olympic Auditorium, Los Angeles, California, United States W KO 1 4
1948-09-07 126 Cadillac Clemmons 127¼ 4-5-0
Olympic Auditorium, Los Angeles, California, United States W TKO 3 4
1948-08-24 Santos Salas 0-1-0
Olympic Auditorium, Los Angeles, California, United States W KO 2 4
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Re: Classic American West Coast Boxing
Frank, Rudy Garcia is a name I've heard many times over the years, however, if somebody were to ask me about him I couldn't provide an answer. He's the type of boxer I appreciate seeing featured here. He fought a lot of great fighters yet is lost in boxing history. His list of opponents shows a few other L.A. headliners who are forgotten, such as Auburn Copeland.
If there was ever a place where boxers such as Rudy Garcia should be remembered, it's in the Classic American West Coast Boxing thread. I also enjoy reading Don Fraser's Van-O-Grams. When I was a kid, there was a man named Rudy Garcia (I think that was the name) that promoted a Junior Golden Goves event at a union hall in Santa Ana, circa 1967. I realize that Rudy Garcia is a common name, could they be the same man?
If there was ever a place where boxers such as Rudy Garcia should be remembered, it's in the Classic American West Coast Boxing thread. I also enjoy reading Don Fraser's Van-O-Grams. When I was a kid, there was a man named Rudy Garcia (I think that was the name) that promoted a Junior Golden Goves event at a union hall in Santa Ana, circa 1967. I realize that Rudy Garcia is a common name, could they be the same man?
Re: Classic American West Coast Boxing
Rudy Garcia was a great action fighter, good puncher, was 1948 L.A GG champion, went to the national that year. I seen few of his fights live, vs Al Cruz, Copeland, Dave Gallardo, Lauro Salas, et al.. No, not the same Rudy Garcia.....Rick Farris wrote:Frank, Rudy Garcia is a name I've heard many times over the years, however, if somebody were to ask me about him I couldn't provide an answer. He's the type of boxer I appreciate seeing featured here. He fought a lot of great fighters yet is lost in boxing history. His list of opponents shows a few other L.A. headliners who are forgotten, such as Auburn Copeland.
If there was ever a place where boxers such as Rudy Garcia should be remembered, it's in the Classic American West Coast Boxing thread. I also enjoy reading Don Fraser's Van-O-Grams. When I was a kid, there was a man named Rudy Garcia (I think that was the name) that promoted a Junior Golden Goves event at a union hall in Santa Ana, circa 1967. I realize that Rudy Garcia is a common name, could they be the same man?