Frank Bruno v Razor Ruddock

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Frank Bruno v Razor Ruddock

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How would Bruno fair with this. Ruddock would not likely be intimidated like some of Bruno's other opponents and would hit back just as hard.

It could be a war.
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Re: Frank Bruno v Razor Ruddock

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Ruddock mid rounds TKO. Perhaps Bruno would make it very competitive and could well floor Ruddock once or twice, but Ruddock would recover better from Bruno's bombs than vice versa.
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oliverfennell wrote:Ruddock mid rounds TKO. Perhaps Bruno would make it very competitive and could well floor Ruddock once or twice, but Ruddock would recover better from Bruno's bombs than vice versa.
I think so, too. Ruddock TKO8.
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Re: Frank Bruno v Razor Ruddock

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Interesting fight between two top line heavies from the same era, I reckon on his best day, Bruno. Besides, the rest of you Numpties think that Tommy Morrison is a chinny bum and yet he stopped a nearly eight kilo (16.7 pounds) Razor Ruddick in 6.
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Re: Frank Bruno v Razor Ruddock

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I dont see it as being a "war" Bruno had very few if any "wars".....the closest he came to one was the first Tyson fight.

Bruno was a good consistent front runner who relied on his jab and punch power. As good as brunos physique was he was musclebound and slow and under severe pressure in the ring could eventually crumble.

Razor was a far more flamboyant talent. Blistering hand speed and power on his left hand, a good physique he was probably a naturally bigger man than Frank, and he had a excellent mentality and stamina. He could be light on his feet for a big man too and was in the 80's.

To be honest I cant see any way Bruno wins. Razor does everything better and of course that speed and left hook smash. I think its an easy win along the lines of the Dokes kayo. A kayo around 4-5 rounds.
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I see Ruddock winning this around halfway, but Bruno's power keeps it tense until the finish.

I think Ruddock in some ways sold himself short in his career, he had good skills but as soon as he beat Smith and Dokes he relied almost totally on the left arm smash rather than using the full range of his skills. Always fun to watch though.
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Some of you guys seem to be forgetting Bruno had a total inability to recover when hit cleanly.

Its conceivable that Franklyn could hurt Razor with his devastating right hand and floor him as Razor sometimes had defensive lapses. But I cant see him knocking a prime Ruddock out....in which case it would only be a matter of time before he takes bruno out.
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dberry wrote:Interesting fight between two top line heavies from the same era, I reckon on his best day, Bruno. Besides, the rest of you Numpties think that Tommy Morrison is a chinny bum and yet he stopped a nearly eight kilo (16.7 pounds) Razor Ruddick in 6.
Ruddock was quite far from his prime at that time, though, while Morrison was near his.

Match Morrison and Ruddock in, say, 1991 or 1992, it would be a different story.
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oliverfennell wrote:
dberry wrote:Interesting fight between two top line heavies from the same era, I reckon on his best day, Bruno. Besides, the rest of you Numpties think that Tommy Morrison is a chinny bum and yet he stopped a nearly eight kilo (16.7 pounds) Razor Ruddick in 6.
Ruddock was quite far from his prime at that time, though, while Morrison was near his.

Match Morrison and Ruddock in, say, 1991 or 1992, it would be a different story.
Anyone who saw him fight bonecrusher, dokes and Tyson knows he was shot (as well as mentally in turmoil and hadnt trained) the night he fought Lewis). As for the night he fought Morrison, again by this time razor was not the same man physically or mentally. He had been ruined by Tyson and Murad Muhammed. Morrison was pretty much in his prime when he fought ruddock
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Re: Frank Bruno v Razor Ruddock

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I really think Razor was very overated......Bruno although wasnt amazing either i think Bruno's basic style would get though Ruddocks defence i think Bruno early....but wouldnt be at all suprised if Ruddocks stops him late
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I cant see how Ruddock can be overrated. He is in my mind one of the most underrated HW's,and when people talk about the lost generation of 80's mostly Don King HW's they always talk of the talent and speed of guys like tubbs,Biggs, Green,Williams,Dokes, Page, or the power ,skill & conditioning of a Pinklon Thomas or Mike Weaver. Than they mention guys like Witherspoon who put more than one of those attributes together.

But most people forget to mention Razor Ruddock.
He was tall very muscular, had incredible power and handspeed on his left hand and of course he was as tough as old boots with stamina to match.
He had the balls to take on a Tyson at his destructive peak over 19 rounds.

In todays world its oft quoted ........but he would beat them all
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mugabi wrote:I cant see how Ruddock can be overrated. He is in my mind one of the most underrated HW's,and when people talk about the lost generation of 80's mostly Don King HW's they always talk of the talent and speed of guys like tubbs,Biggs, Green,Williams,Dokes, Page, or the power ,skill & conditioning of a Pinklon Thomas or Mike Weaver. Than they mention guys like Witherspoon who put more than one of those attributes together.

But most people forget to mention Razor Ruddock.
He was tall very muscular, had incredible power and handspeed on his left hand and of course he was as tough as old boots with stamina to match.
He had the balls to take on a Tyson at his destructive peak over 24 rounds.

In todays world its oft quoted ........but he would beat them all
I thought Tyson was past his best when they fought.......
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I would enjoy this greatly
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SOUTHPAW wrote:
mugabi wrote:I cant see how Ruddock can be overrated. He is in my mind one of the most underrated HW's,and when people talk about the lost generation of 80's mostly Don King HW's they always talk of the talent and speed of guys like tubbs,Biggs, Green,Williams,Dokes, Page, or the power ,skill & conditioning of a Pinklon Thomas or Mike Weaver. Than they mention guys like Witherspoon who put more than one of those attributes together.

But most people forget to mention Razor Ruddock.
He was tall very muscular, had incredible power and handspeed on his left hand and of course he was as tough as old boots with stamina to match.
He had the balls to take on a Tyson at his destructive peak over 24 rounds.

In todays world its oft quoted ........but he would beat them all
I thought Tyson was past his best when they fought.......
tyson was past his peak when they fought thats unarguable. His defence the elusiveness had gone. The combinations and slick skills had gone.the aura of invinceibility had been dealt a serious blow.

But notice i said i considered this tyson (89-91) to have been at his destructive peak not his peak. In this period tyson reliant on power and intimidation scored incredible kayoes over bruno, williams, stewart....all good men. When he fought razor he showed a fight all night will to win and destructiveness he damn near killed razor and took some incredible shots himself in the gruelling bruising 19 rounds they did. He showed his heart and chin.
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Bruno by TKO
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mugabi wrote:
oliverfennell wrote:
dberry wrote:Interesting fight between two top line heavies from the same era, I reckon on his best day, Bruno. Besides, the rest of you Numpties think that Tommy Morrison is a chinny bum and yet he stopped a nearly eight kilo (16.7 pounds) Razor Ruddick in 6.
Ruddock was quite far from his prime at that time, though, while Morrison was near his.

Match Morrison and Ruddock in, say, 1991 or 1992, it would be a different story.
Exactly i got into a big row with a couple of nickle and dime peons here about Ruddock. Anyone who saw him fight bonecrusher, dokes and Tyson knows he was shot (as well as mentally in turmoil and hadnt trained) the night he fought Lewis). As for the night he fought Morrison, again by this time razor was not the same man physically or mentally. He had been ruined by Tyson and Murad Muhammed. Morrison was pretty much in his prime when he fought ruddock
It's hard to say whether Ruddock was past it by the time he fought Lewis, due to the brevity of the fight. Of course you could say the brevity of the fight suggested he'd lost some punch resistance, but it's not like he was ever impossible to floor.

But certainly the combination of two gruelling fights with Tyson and then the loss of confidence that must have come with the quick loss to Lewis made for a much-diminished Ruddock, both physically and psychologically, by the time he met Morrison.
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Re: Frank Bruno v Razor Ruddock

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I see Bruno catching Razzor late. It would be an entertaining fight
to watch. But while I do think that Razzor starts strong, over time
Bruno is able to get a stoppage win.
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