Khan- Maidana - 11/12/10 its on?!

[lefty]

I don't know what you're saying, Lefty. Khan is, by far, a more tougher fight for Maidana than the Ortiz one. Khan can punch hard, plus he's accurate, fast and punches in bunches. I'd take that over having whirlwind power, any day of the week. Just look what happened with Burns/Martinez.

What im saying is yes Khan is a much more talented fighter than Maidana is but still this wont be a walk in the park for khan!Also Ortiz isnt just a big puncher,he's a guy with good technique and decent boxing skills himself.I agree khans a better boxer and athlete than ortiz but ortiz isnt just some slugger though!Regarding the Burns vs Martinez analogy,i dont think you can use that too much in relation to khan/maidana as burns always had a very good chance in that fight as for one he was a better technician than Martinez but secondly and most importanly he has a very good chin which meant when things did get tough he could get through it.

[daveyboy123]

I think Khan will beat him, i dont think Maindana will get close enough to win the fight. Freddie Roach will make sure khan is in and out before Maindana can get near him. All credit to him taking the fight though, it will once and for all silence the critics who say he is avoiding big hitters. I must admit, i'm in the camp of people who thought he was avoiding him so fair play to him

Silence the critics? Not a hope, if he beats Maidana, plenty of people will say that he was overrated and will not be happy until Khan beats Mayweather and pacman in the same night!

Its a great fight and it will be very interesting to see what happens if Maidana does land flush. I think Khan takes this, then I hope he gets Bradley or Alexander next.

I agree that Khan will always have his critics no matter what. Its a shame and not something I fully understand. Khan was built up into a star before his boxing actually reached world level, but so what? His fights filled venues and helped to get boxing on the TV when it was, and still is, struggling for coverage in the UK. He seems like a nice enough lad to me, and now he is a English world champion, why not give him a break?

As for his chin, I must be one of the few that doesnt think he is chinny! If a pro boxer has zero defence, carries his left hand low and waves his chin in the air he would have to have a head like a rock to not get knocked out at some point. Khan used to walk into flush landing punches, adding to the impact. I dont care if the opposition is not known as a puncher, like Limmond, that sort of tactic is still going to get 95% of pro's in trouble. Khan has learned his lessons the hard way. I expect him to outclass Maidana for a late TKO or UD. He will have to beat Bradley or Alexander before the doubters shut their cake holes though....

[lefty]

I think Khan will beat him, i dont think Maindana will get close enough to win the fight. Freddie Roach will make sure khan is in and out before Maindana can get near him. All credit to him taking the fight though, it will once and for all silence the critics who say he is avoiding big hitters. I must admit, i'm in the camp of people who thought he was avoiding him so fair play to him

Silence the critics? Not a hope, if he beats Maidana, plenty of people will say that he was overrated and will not be happy until Khan beats Mayweather and pacman in the same night!

Its a great fight and it will be very interesting to see what happens if Maidana does land flush. I think Khan takes this, then I hope he gets Bradley or Alexander next.

I agree that Khan will always have his critics no matter what. Its a shame and not something I fully understand. Khan was built up into a star before his boxing actually reached world level, but so what? His fights filled venues and helped to get boxing on the TV when it was, and still is, struggling for coverage in the UK. He seems like a nice enough lad to me, and now he is a English world champion, why not give him a break?

As for his chin, I must be one of the few that doesnt think he is chinny! If a pro boxer has zero defence, carries his left hand low and waves his chin in the air he would have to have a head like a rock to not get knocked out at some point. Khan used to walk into flush landing punches, adding to the impact. I dont care if the opposition is not known as a puncher, like Limmond, that sort of tactic is still going to get 95% of pro's in trouble. Khan has learned his lessons the hard way. I expect him to outclass Maidana for a late TKO or UD. He will have to beat Bradley or Alexander before the doubters shut their cake holes though....

Nice lad?!You should follow the fella on twitter mate and you'd see how self-centered and ego centrical the guy is!

[Bricks]

Amir will knock him sparko in 2 rounds. This guy has been built up by the shaven headed 40 something beerguts who resent khan.

Maidana will not like khans power.

Khan is a limited fighter but maidana is grossly overated. Bradley will handle khan in time but maidana is a overrated guy

[crusader]

I wouldn't say he's chinny, but he's very capable of being knocked out early. If Khan has Maidana down like Ortiz did then expect the finish not long after. Khan is top five in the sport for finishing, so I would expect him to knock out Maidana, and quite early, too.

Based on what exactly? Please don't say his wins over Salita and Fagin. I think Khan is a very talented fighter, but you are going overboard with comments like that. Khan is not even a power puncher, let alone one of the five best finishers in all of boxing. He has never stopped a world class opponent shortly after having them in trouble, which means he is hardly proven as a finisher.

[overhand_right]

Lol at terminator focussing on Maidana being down in two fights. Forgot about the knockdown against Willie Limond? Or the knock down against Drizlane who had a zero percent kayo ratio. The knockdown vs Gomez?

Just lol.

[lefty]

Amir will knock him sparko in 2 rounds. This guy has been built up by the shaven headed 40 something beerguts who resent khan.

Maidana will not like khans power.

Khan is a limited fighter but maidana is grossly overated. Bradley will handle khan in time but maidana is a overrated guy

Im 25 and have all my own hair thanks

[lefty]

I wouldn't say he's chinny, but he's very capable of being knocked out early. If Khan has Maidana down like Ortiz did then expect the finish not long after. Khan is top five in the sport for finishing, so I would expect him to knock out Maidana, and quite early, too.

Based on what exactly? Please don't say his wins over Salita and Fagin. I think Khan is a very talented fighter, but you are going overboard with comments like that. Khan is not even a power puncher, let alone one of the five best finishers in all of boxing. He has never stopped a world class opponent shortly after having them in trouble, which means he is hardly proven as a finisher.

Salita had an even worse chin that Khans!Lol.I remember watching some earlier fights of his where he was getting genuinely rocked by jabs and this was against journeymen!Regarding Fagin well he's pretty crude as it is and is never going to be a top class fighter and also when he got knocked down the first time against khan he landed on his ankle and broke or dislocated it.He was pretty much fighting on one leg for the rest of that fight!

[mickey1975]

Khan isnt that powerful.He stuns people with shots they dont see and then,in Britain at least,throws about fifty shots in five seconds that are almost impossible to answer and the ref jumps in.Its speed that his major asset.

[forcefraser]

Didn't Khan get knocked down and should of been stopped by Limmond, not exactly a power puncher. Wasn't that the all time slowest 8 count just in order to protect an unbeaten prospect....

Have to agree with you there mate.

If Limond would have been in the trouble that Khan was in, the ref would have stopped it. No doubt. We see it time and time again. When the prospect wobbles the other guy, the other guy get`s stopped.

If Khan wasn`t a top prospect, he`d have been stopped after the first Prescott knockdown. It was obvious he was gone. That last punch he took was not needed.

In general I think they stop some fights too early. Fair enough I`m not the guy in there taking the leather and I`m not asking for Emille Griffith style beatings (that one was simply insanse - worse than Ike Williams on Beau Jack) but too often they are stopped too early (in Britain at least)

If it`s late on, then I think there is more risk of damage, due to the exhaustion and lack of oxygen, but early doors, with plenty of time left to turn a fight, the ref should let a few slide.

[overhand_right]

Amir is allegedly STILL trying to wriggle out of the fight, saying 'but he's not my mandatory!!'

LOL!

Buenos Aires, Argentina, September 8, 2010

Dr. Gilberto Mendoza
WBA President
Mr. Gilberto Jesús Mendoza
WBA Executive Vice-President
Vía e-mail

Dear Dr. and Mr. Mendoza,

Trust this letter finds you and your families very well.

The reason I am contacting you guys is to request the World Boxing Association (WBA) to ratify my status of mandatory challenger of the current WBA Super Lightweight Regular champion, Amir Khan, as I am the current WBA Super Lightweight Interim champion.

I make this request in the light that Mr. Khan has systematically refused to fight with me for the last 10 months, even though he was well aware of his obligation of facing the Interim champion. And now, apparently he is questioning such obligation, so I would like the WBA to remind him.

In fact, I have been as flexible and patient as possible during this period of time, as Mr. Khan, his team and trainer Freddie Roach have always cited different excuses not to fight me. On the contrary, I make it clear that I have been always willing to face Mr. Khan, who has made false statements on the media mentioning otherwise.

Eventually, I got tired of this situation in which I had to read surprinsing statements on the news where Mr. Khan himself and his team tried to confuse the boxing fans and media by saying a bunch of lies, including an alleged offer that they made to me to fight last July, which in reality never existed, whatsoever.

If Mr. Khan does not want to fight me, he must say it loud and clear in public and give away the portion of the title he carries and I should be appointed the WBA absolute Super Lightweight champion.

Therefore, I ratify my willingness of facing Mr. Khan before the end 2010.

Many thanks for your kind attention,

Best wishes,
Marcos René Maidana

CC
Richard Schaefer – Golden Boy Promotions
Eric Gomez – Golden Boy Promotions

[bennie]

Yeah, Khan is showing his true colours, with whispering Freddie already lining up Slapsie Maxie.

[Dioufy]

I wouldn't say he's chinny, but he's very capable of being knocked out early. If Khan has Maidana down like Ortiz did then expect the finish not long after. Khan is top five in the sport for finishing, so I would expect him to knock out Maidana, and quite early, too.

Based on what exactly? Please don't say his wins over Salita and Fagin. I think Khan is a very talented fighter, but you are going overboard with comments like that. Khan is not even a power puncher, let alone one of the five best finishers in all of boxing. He has never stopped a world class opponent shortly after having them in trouble, which means he is hardly proven as a finisher.

Perhaps I worded it wrong, but he's still got potential to be up there. Fast hands, pressure-fighter, IMO heavy-handed, precise and throws many good punches with a lot of variety. He's only 23 remember, so when he's older, I would guess he will be a lethal finisher.

[black panther]

Amir is allegedly STILL trying to wriggle out of the fight, saying 'but he's not my mandatory!!'

LOL!

Buenos Aires, Argentina, September 8, 2010

Dr. Gilberto Mendoza
WBA President
Mr. Gilberto Jesús Mendoza
WBA Executive Vice-President
Vía e-mail

Dear Dr. and Mr. Mendoza,

Trust this letter finds you and your families very well.

The reason I am contacting you guys is to request the World Boxing Association (WBA) to ratify my status of mandatory challenger of the current WBA Super Lightweight Regular champion, Amir Khan, as I am the current WBA Super Lightweight Interim champion.

I make this request in the light that Mr. Khan has systematically refused to fight with me for the last 10 months, even though he was well aware of his obligation of facing the Interim champion. And now, apparently he is questioning such obligation, so I would like the WBA to remind him.

In fact, I have been as flexible and patient as possible during this period of time, as Mr. Khan, his team and trainer Freddie Roach have always cited different excuses not to fight me. On the contrary, I make it clear that I have been always willing to face Mr. Khan, who has made false statements on the media mentioning otherwise.

Eventually, I got tired of this situation in which I had to read surprinsing statements on the news where Mr. Khan himself and his team tried to confuse the boxing fans and media by saying a bunch of lies, including an alleged offer that they made to me to fight last July, which in reality never existed, whatsoever.

If Mr. Khan does not want to fight me, he must say it loud and clear in public and give away the portion of the title he carries and I should be appointed the WBA absolute Super Lightweight champion.

Therefore, I ratify my willingness of facing Mr. Khan before the end 2010.

Many thanks for your kind attention,

Best wishes,
Marcos René Maidana

CC
Richard Schaefer – Golden Boy Promotions
Eric Gomez – Golden Boy Promotions

In Khan's defence......err...... Damn can't see this as anything but a duck I'm afraid.

[Dioufy]

Duck, duck, duck.

[lefty]

I wouldn't say he's chinny, but he's very capable of being knocked out early. If Khan has Maidana down like Ortiz did then expect the finish not long after. Khan is top five in the sport for finishing, so I would expect him to knock out Maidana, and quite early, too.

Based on what exactly? Please don't say his wins over Salita and Fagin. I think Khan is a very talented fighter, but you are going overboard with comments like that. Khan is not even a power puncher, let alone one of the five best finishers in all of boxing. He has never stopped a world class opponent shortly after having them in trouble, which means he is hardly proven as a finisher.

Perhaps I worded it wrong, but he's still got potential to be up there. Fast hands, pressure-fighter, IMO heavy-handed, precise and throws many good punches with a lot of variety. He's only 23 remember, so when he's older, I would guess he will be a lethal finisher.

No offense but for how long are we going to hear this he's only 23,blah,blah,blah?!Before it was he's only 22,etc!People will still be saying the same when he's 30 at this rate!People forget that Devon alexander is actually younger than khan but you dont hear people going on about his age constantly!

[Dioufy]

The Khan/Alexander comparison is ball-cheese. If you want to go there then look at both their performances against Kotelnik. You can't use a certain comparison when it benefits your argument but totally disregard it when it shows cracks within your thinking.

And Khan would beat Alexander, IMO.

[daveyboy123]

Didn't Khan get knocked down and should of been stopped by Limmond, not exactly a power puncher. Wasn't that the all time slowest 8 count just in order to protect an unbeaten prospect....

Have to agree with you there mate.

If Limond would have been in the trouble that Khan was in, the ref would have stopped it. No doubt. We see it time and time again. When the prospect wobbles the other guy, the other guy get`s stopped.

If Khan wasn`t a top prospect, he`d have been stopped after the first Prescott knockdown. It was obvious he was gone. That last punch he took was not needed.

In general I think they stop some fights too early. Fair enough I`m not the guy in there taking the leather and I`m not asking for Emille Griffith style beatings (that one was simply insanse - worse than Ike Williams on Beau Jack) but too often they are stopped too early (in Britain at least)

If it`s late on, then I think there is more risk of damage, due to the exhaustion and lack of oxygen, but early doors, with plenty of time left to turn a fight, the ref should let a few slide.

I think a lot can be said for referees knowing the fighters. If khan had Limmond in trouble what are the chances of Limmond throwing a heavy shot out of nothing and turning the tables.........no chance. On the other hand what are the chances of Khan doing that against Limmond?.....a very good chance as was shown when he roared back in their contest to break Limmonds jaw and end the fight. Khan was in desperate trouble after the first Prescott knock down, but is it impossible to think that had he survived for 30 seconds and recovered enough to throw some power punches of his own he couldnt have turned the tables? Good referees do their homework and can make a good guess as to whether a boxer has the ability to come back with something if they get in trouble. They dont always get it right, but this point must be taken into consideration I think? The boxers safety is paramount and if they are only going to take shots without the ability to get themselves out of trouble then there is no point in letting a fight continue, but if they have a chance at pulling victory from the jaws of defeat then the Ref should give them a chance to do that.

[lefty]

The Khan/Alexander comparison is ball-cheese. If you want to go there then look at both their performances against Kotelnik. You can't use a certain comparison when it benefits your argument but totally disregard it when it shows cracks within your thinking.

And Khan would beat Alexander, IMO.

When did i compare peformances?!I didn't i compared ages!Anyway Alexander doesnt have a loss on his record like khan and he also has two of the major sanctioning bodies belts!If you look at there records in all honesty alexander has faced tougher Light-welterweight competition ie witter,urango and kotelnik to khans ..kotelnik,salita and malignaggi.Before you say it yes urango is nothing special in terms of abilty but he was a more dangerous opponent than malignaggi and alexander knocked him out which even berto couldnt do at welterweight!

[lefty]

Didn't Khan get knocked down and should of been stopped by Limmond, not exactly a power puncher. Wasn't that the all time slowest 8 count just in order to protect an unbeaten prospect....

Have to agree with you there mate.

If Limond would have been in the trouble that Khan was in, the ref would have stopped it. No doubt. We see it time and time again. When the prospect wobbles the other guy, the other guy get`s stopped.

If Khan wasn`t a top prospect, he`d have been stopped after the first Prescott knockdown. It was obvious he was gone. That last punch he took was not needed.

In general I think they stop some fights too early. Fair enough I`m not the guy in there taking the leather and I`m not asking for Emille Griffith style beatings (that one was simply insanse - worse than Ike Williams on Beau Jack) but too often they are stopped too early (in Britain at least)

If it`s late on, then I think there is more risk of damage, due to the exhaustion and lack of oxygen, but early doors, with plenty of time left to turn a fight, the ref should let a few slide.

I think a lot can be said for referees knowing the fighters. If khan had Limmond in trouble what are the chances of Limmond throwing a heavy shot out of nothing and turning the tables.........no chance. On the other hand what are the chances of Khan doing that against Limmond?.....a very good chance as was shown when he roared back in their contest to break Limmonds jaw and end the fight. Khan was in desperate trouble after the first Prescott knock down, but is it impossible to think that had he survived for 30 seconds and recovered enough to throw some power punches of his own he couldnt have turned the tables? Good referees do their homework and can make a good guess as to whether a boxer has the ability to come back with something if they get in trouble. They dont always get it right, but this point must be taken into consideration I think? The boxers safety is paramount and if they are only going to take shots without the ability to get themselves out of trouble then there is no point in letting a fight continue, but if they have a chance at pulling victory from the jaws of defeat then the Ref should give them a chance to do that.

How did khan have a chance of pulling the fight out against prescott after the first knockdown then when his legs were like bambi on ice?!

[daveyboy123]

Have to agree with you there mate.

If Limond would have been in the trouble that Khan was in, the ref would have stopped it. No doubt. We see it time and time again. When the prospect wobbles the other guy, the other guy get`s stopped.

If Khan wasn`t a top prospect, he`d have been stopped after the first Prescott knockdown. It was obvious he was gone. That last punch he took was not needed.

In general I think they stop some fights too early. Fair enough I`m not the guy in there taking the leather and I`m not asking for Emille Griffith style beatings (that one was simply insanse - worse than Ike Williams on Beau Jack) but too often they are stopped too early (in Britain at least)

If it`s late on, then I think there is more risk of damage, due to the exhaustion and lack of oxygen, but early doors, with plenty of time left to turn a fight, the ref should let a few slide.

I think a lot can be said for referees knowing the fighters. If khan had Limmond in trouble what are the chances of Limmond throwing a heavy shot out of nothing and turning the tables.........no chance. On the other hand what are the chances of Khan doing that against Limmond?.....a very good chance as was shown when he roared back in their contest to break Limmonds jaw and end the fight. Khan was in desperate trouble after the first Prescott knock down, but is it impossible to think that had he survived for 30 seconds and recovered enough to throw some power punches of his own he couldnt have turned the tables? Good referees do their homework and can make a good guess as to whether a boxer has the ability to come back with something if they get in trouble. They dont always get it right, but this point must be taken into consideration I think? The boxers safety is paramount and if they are only going to take shots without the ability to get themselves out of trouble then there is no point in letting a fight continue, but if they have a chance at pulling victory from the jaws of defeat then the Ref should give them a chance to do that.

How did khan have a chance of pulling the fight out against prescott after the first knockdown then when his legs were like bambi on ice?!

The answer is a very slim chance! My point is Khan had at least shown in previous fights the kind of power that can turn a fight on its head, Limmond does not have that kind of one punch power. My argument is that all fighters have different abilities and qualities and referees must, and do, take this into account before stepping in to stop a fight.

[lefty]

I think a lot can be said for referees knowing the fighters. If khan had Limmond in trouble what are the chances of Limmond throwing a heavy shot out of nothing and turning the tables.........no chance. On the other hand what are the chances of Khan doing that against Limmond?.....a very good chance as was shown when he roared back in their contest to break Limmonds jaw and end the fight. Khan was in desperate trouble after the first Prescott knock down, but is it impossible to think that had he survived for 30 seconds and recovered enough to throw some power punches of his own he couldnt have turned the tables? Good referees do their homework and can make a good guess as to whether a boxer has the ability to come back with something if they get in trouble. They dont always get it right, but this point must be taken into consideration I think? The boxers safety is paramount and if they are only going to take shots without the ability to get themselves out of trouble then there is no point in letting a fight continue, but if they have a chance at pulling victory from the jaws of defeat then the Ref should give them a chance to do that.

How did khan have a chance of pulling the fight out against prescott after the first knockdown then when his legs were like bambi on ice?!

The answer is a very slim chance! My point is Khan had at least shown in previous fights the kind of power that can turn a fight on its head, Limmond does not have that kind of one punch power. My argument is that all fighters have different abilities and qualities and referees must, and do, take this into account before stepping in to stop a fight.

What you basically mean is it depends on how well the ref gets on with the prospects promoter!

[daveyboy123]

How did khan have a chance of pulling the fight out against prescott after the first knockdown then when his legs were like bambi on ice?!

The answer is a very slim chance! My point is Khan had at least shown in previous fights the kind of power that can turn a fight on its head, Limmond does not have that kind of one punch power. My argument is that all fighters have different abilities and qualities and referees must, and do, take this into account before stepping in to stop a fight.

What you basically mean is it depends on how well the ref gets on with the prospects promoter!

Yeah, because all boxing is fixed and none of it is worth watching ;;-)

How about a bit of positivity for the sport.....

[lefty]

The answer is a very slim chance! My point is Khan had at least shown in previous fights the kind of power that can turn a fight on its head, Limmond does not have that kind of one punch power. My argument is that all fighters have different abilities and qualities and referees must, and do, take this into account before stepping in to stop a fight.

What you basically mean is it depends on how well the ref gets on with the prospects promoter!

Yeah, because all boxing is fixed and none of it is worth watching ;;-)

How about a bit of positivity for the sport.....

Im just being honest!Lets be real here,if that was prescott that got knocked down heavily and not khan do you think the ref would of been so quick to give prescott a second shot?!

[daveyboy123]

What you basically mean is it depends on how well the ref gets on with the prospects promoter!

Yeah, because all boxing is fixed and none of it is worth watching ;;-)

How about a bit of positivity for the sport.....

Im just being honest!Lets be real here,if that was prescott that got knocked down heavily and not khan do you think the ref would of been so quick to give prescott a second shot?!

With Prescott's power....yes.