The future of Tyson Fury?

[andy skill]

another win for fury tonight, but not overly impressive by all accounts.
He seems to come into fight overweight, is this lack of dedication?
Also, others have reported again about his poor technique and punch power.

unless he starts to make big improvements, he'll wont go beyond british level.

I'd like to see him fight chisora in his next fight.

Any other thoughts on fury n his next opponent or future fights?

[Horse]

Do people think he will train properly for a fight against the Sexton/Chisora winner?

[leforge]

Do people think he will train properly for a fight against the Sexton/Chisora winner?

I think he will lose or pull out!

[tsmithy50]

I heard him on the bbc london buncey show last week and he came across as a lovely bloke but unfortunatly I just can't see how he will even become british champion he seems very lazy in conditioning his body and even lazier in improving his boxing technique, can anybody honestly say he looks like he's improving? He has to fight the winner of Chisora-Sexton and he's certainly not scared of either! I think then we'll find out what Tyson Fury is all about. He's got big balls but little talent - I hope he proves me wrong.

[forcefraser]

I don`t think he is going anywhere to be honest. No power, poor technique and dodgy stamina. He looks to have a decent chin though, which might not do him any favours if he meets a guy who unloads on him.

He won clearly last night, but the overall impression was not impressive at all. The guy he fought was a hard nut, but was basically a 4 round specialist, who fights low level opponents in Yankee backwater towns.

Chisora and Sexton should both beat Fury.

[GlobalBox]

I think when he gets his British title shot that will tell us how serious he is about the game, there is potentital there to be British champion I have no doubt about that, we have to remember he is a baby in heavyweight terms and will still be such in a few years.

Times I look as some of his work and you can see there is natural ability and some skills but other times he looks disinterested and going through the motions.

I will hold my judgement I trink, it would be very easy to just say no now on what we have seen but there has to be more to come if he can get serious about the game, although I am not sure he can.

[bennie]

If you look at his dad's record, and his dad was also a big, game, capable fellow, it tells you that the 22-year-old Tyson will win the fights he is expected to win and lose the fights he is expected to lose.

[exittored]

Is Tyson Fury really 22 years old?

I have my doubts but if he is then i'm going to stay a believer for now but he does seem to be going backwards in his last few fights which is always a bad sign for a fighter.

Suddenly his conditioning, punch power and technique seems to be poor, i always said that he should have stayed amateur till the 2012 Olympics in London which would have been a great launchpad for him but also allowed him 4 more years to develop his skills and experience.

He obviously trains but looking at his body his diet probably contains plenty of junk food which is always an indicator of soft bodies.

[bennie]

If you look at his dad's record, and his dad was also a big, game, capable fellow, it tells you that the 22-year-old Tyson will win the fights he is expected to win and lose the fights he is expected to lose.

Tyson Fury is far from the second Ali but he has much more talent and skill than his dad, John Fury. John Fury had no amateur record and turned professional on the basis of mainly bare-knuckle experience. He was indeed a big tough guy - I saw him fight (and lose to Neil Malpass) for the Central Area title about twenty years ago. He came up the hard way but he had little in terms of boxing skills and was more of a journeyman than anything. Tyson Fury, on the other hand, has had an extensive amateur career, has a fair degree of skill, and is being managed and promoted as a prospect. There are significant differences between the two.

I wish I hadn't bothered saying anything, because heavies bore me to tears, but John Fury - and his heavyweight brother, Peter - boxed amateur for the Accrington club. John was never losing consistently enough to be a journeyman, in your words, and indeed was marketed as a prospect, co-managed for a time by allegedly.

[JimJim2009]

I watched Fury's fight in full last night and was impressed, overall. I don't know why there are negative takes on it. He showed improvement in stamina and technique, while not (obviously) being the finished article by any means. The opponent was game and they produced an entertaining scrap. Tyson won clearly and showed some real talent, and the American commentators were positive about what they saw from him. I've seen all of his fights and I think he's streets ahead of where he was a year ago. He is very young and inexperienced, good luck to the lad

[andy skill]

fury is only 22, but seems to lack the required fitness. He seems to have a decent chin at the current level he's fighting at.

I'd like like to see chisora or season next, if not, sprott or rogan. All these would be a good test for fury.

[Lightsoot]

Full show report from last night courtesy of Will Hale

http://news.boxrec.com/news/2010/odonne ... generation

[daveyboy123]

I have watched most of Tysons pro fights, including his latest against Power. I agree with other comments that he does not look like he is improving. He needs to get himself a 'proper' trainer and a strength and conditioning coach. He will be lucky to rise above English level in the shape he is in now. I think his best hope to progress is to get fully fit and box instead of trying to KO every opponent. His jab could be a match winner, if it was sharp. He is the sort of boxer who could slowly wear opponents down with accurate body shots, stiff jabs and just shear size, but he will have to be very fit. At the moment he is trying to score the KO with every right hand he throws, as many of those miss as connect! This is why he often looks crude, that and because he is always knackered by round 4-5! He falls in after every big right and smothers his following flurries, a quality opponent would time him doing this. Tyson could be good enough to give any of the top heavyweights a problem, he is young and has time, but he needs to make serious changes to his preparations and soon. If he steps up the opposition without making these changes he will lose, and lose badly. Sexton or Chisora would cause him all sorts of problems at this point in his career. I would love to see how much better Tyson would look a stone lighter and after a quality 2-3 month prep with quality coaches.

[bigdaddy]

Tyson needs to go to America to train great trainers and great sparring

[hitman_hatton1]

Tyson needs to go to America to train great trainers and great sparring

go over and spar james toney.

get some much needed dietary tips from the expert.

[Coco]

I thought Fury lost the first McDermott fight, but while showing plenty of flaws, he won the return well.
It shows me that he is a developing fighter and distance fights like against this Yank is exactly the sort of work he needs.
I agree his conditioning is an issue and that should be addressed immediately, but he is still a baby and should continue to be on the slow burner. At this stage of his career he needs a lot more experience but still plenty of protection.

[terrez]

Fury has not won convincingly since he took a little step up a couple fights ago, and has never looked top level fit or sharp for any fight.

I personally think it's a big lack of the camp and professionalism that is around him and some of his personal commitment. Does he even have a dedicated conditioning coach, boxing coach and strength trainer who know what they are really doing?

If he steps in with Sexton or Chisora in the condition he did against McD or in his last fight. He get's convincingly beat and that's only a few month away.

[handsup]

I think if you look at his fight on Friday and compare it to any of his previous fights, you would have to say he has improved. Hes still has a lot to do in in relation to conditioning and technique but he's only 22 and the heavy weight division isn't exactly awash with talented guys! Just look at the fight last night!
Having said that if his conditioning does not improve drastically hes at nothing. This is up to himself, he has to be schooled in the sweet science but conditioning is down to self discipline and hard work!

[Floyd]

In all honesty he really should have been able to stop a fighter like Power. The few times Power crudely rushed him he looked a bit loss. Fury needs a lot of work to go beyond Britsh level.

[The Most High]

Tyson needs to go to America to train great trainers and great sparring

go over and spar james toney.

get some much needed dietary tips from the expert.

Very interesting. Did you post on the Hatton NOTW piece?

Fury is going backwards, unfortunately.

[WildWaylon]

British level at best, he seems to lack ambition to me. If he was a dedicated fighter he would be better conditioned and by now showing he has learned from his previous fights. Instead, all we see is the same thing from him each time he fights. For those who thought we may have another British prospect comming through, he has been a big disappointment so far.

[Darling]

British level at best, he seems to lack ambition to me. If he was a dedicated fighter he would be better conditioned and by now showing he has learned from his previous fights. Instead, all we see is the same thing from him each time he fights. For those who thought we may have another British prospect comming through, he has been a big disappointment so far.

I tend to agree.

On the weekend he looked unfit, sloppy and at times very crude, pushing his punches for the most part.

People keep saying he's only a baby but he's been around boxing a long time.

On the plus side he seems to know the value of the jab, especially one as long as his, and he seems to hold a shot quite well.

[Scrap]

On the plus and Minus side of things, theres a lot more Pluses. He has a lot of developing to do, at 22 He has time to do it.

[Darling]

On the plus and Minus side of things, theres a lot more Pluses. He has a lot of developing to do, at 22 He has time to do it.

I'd agree Scrap, except they have got him on TV, and USA TV at that, so can't see them holding him back from domestic titles for much longer.

Development might be easier accomplished outside the glare of publicity but his handlers have chosen to go down that route.

Regarding opponents, who would you like to see him in with over the next 12 months?

[mickey1975]

Tyson is going to be his own worst enemy.There is no way he is going to go away to training camps or live away from home in order to work with another trainer.Its not his culture,he needs his family around him and he will keep doing what he has always done.I dont believe Mick H has helped with all those ridiculous press releases or his Dad telling everyone how great he is.They put huge pressure on a guy who is only a baby,mentally.You could see when he was crying after winning the McDermott rematch he needs looking after.Its a shame as he has a lot of good points,great heart,good chin and despite looking fecked,never gassed even under pressure for ten rounds against McDermott,not easy to do when your probably about 60% of your possible fitness.Hes got this far with very limited resources and not too many bouts.Of course there is potential i just cant see him realising it.