Best ever all-Asian fights

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What are the best fights involving only Asian boxers?

Can be from any era.

Best I've seen:

probably Joichiro Tatsuyoshi's brawl with Sirimongkol Singwangcha - 6 or 7 rounds of pure chaos, late '90s. WBC bantamweight title. Wild slugging, very little defense. Tatsuyoshi wins it, then loses 2 fights, one-sided, to Veeraphol Sahaprom.

hopefully you guys will keep things rolling...

[Goodnight, Irene]

What are the best fights involving only Asian boxers?

Can be from any era.

Best I've seen:

probably Joichiro Tatsuyoshi's brawl with Sirimongkol Singwangcha - 6 or 7 rounds of pure chaos, late '90s. WBC bantamweight title. Wild slugging, very little defense. Tatsuyoshi wins it, then loses 2 fights, one-sided, to Veeraphol Sahaprom.

hopefully you guys will keep things rolling...

Yellow fever?

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ppl do bang on about great mexican-puerto rican rivalries, but there have been some great japan-thailand rivalries too, haven't there? great fights that tend not to get featured in the western press.

especially when outstanding thais have to travel to japan for their big paydays, vs freakishly tough, persistent and determined local fighters.

might not be as wild as tatsuyoshi-singwangcha, but the 2 middle fights in the veeraphol sahaprom-toshiaki nishioka rivalry are gruelling fights, fought at a high standard. fights 2 and 3, both D12's. nishioka uses some excellent variety, from his southpaw stance, for such a young fighter. veeraphol, stoical, chipping away with the left hooks and right crosses, though he'd perform much better in the 1st and 4th fights with nishioka, strangely.

and veeraphol L12 hozumi hasegawa, a fight from the same year as (i believe) and possibly even more relentless than, the celebrated corrales-castillo 1.

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this year's poonsawat kratingdaenggym v satoshi hosono was another punch fest, a very tough fight between two apparent light hitters.

i wonder if there will be rematches, due to the closeness of the scoring?

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let's broaden the criteria a bit.

fights in asia, featuring at least one asian fighter, can also count.

in that case, shall we add:

poonsawat v ricardo cordoba - extremely tough, brisk, intense and skilful 12 rounder. poonsawat edges a superb 12 rounder, at home.

the two nobuo nashiro-hugo cazares fights - both fights gradually get tougher and tougher, featuring some gruelling exchanges mid-to-late in the fights, a draw and a decision for cazares.

[Seamus]

For starters

Muangchai Kittikasem vs Jung Koo Chang

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saw the last 3 rounds of that on youtube. a very exciting turnaround.

more recently, i've really enjoyed pongsaklek wonjongkam vs daisuke naito parts 3 and 4. two surprisingly hard fights, after seeing how pongsaklek had previously dealt with him. the loss to naito set wonjongkam back about 3 years. i felt he won the 4th match, a draw.

an interesting angle: WBC open scoring. wonjongkam behind in both fights after 8. goes absolutely nuts in round 9 of both fights, battering naito. his effort left him depleted in fight 3, allowing naito to come back with good work. the thai's in better shape in fight 4, and is able to follow up with nasty body shots, although naito makes some exciting rallies. seems there is a 5th fight on the horizon, of a rivalry that has really heated up. (naito lost to kameda, pongsakek beat kameda...)

normally, ppl moan about WBC open scoring SPOILING the fights, such as mormeck-bell 2 at cruiser: mormeck running to protect his lead.

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does brian viloria v carlos tamara count? viloria was fighting in the philippinnes and apparently was fighting for that country. not seen this fight but heard it was savage.

also, viloria v solis?

[tanibanana]

Tokuyama - In jin chi.
Elorde - Kosaka

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do you mean tokuyama v in joo choo, the guy he took the WBC super flyweight title from? (as opposed to in jin chi).

if so, which of the two fights is the best one? what happens in the fight?

i suppose tokuyama v kawashima will go down as a classic asian rivalry, due to the differences between the 3 fights - tough decision for tokuyama, blowout for kawashima, then more one sided decision for tokuyama.

i suppose if we were looking at asian fighters away from home, in jin chi vs michael brodie 1 would definitely have to come up.

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seems like, if a thread doesn't mention larry holmes or ezzard charles, it doesn't get much of a response on here.

anyway, are the first two lorenzo parra-takefumi sakata fights good enough to qualify inclusion in this thread?

has katushige kawashima been in any terrific wars? - he certainly had an exciting style and was matched tough.

how about joichiro tatsuyoshi - any others to go with that brutal slugging match with singwangcha?

[Bricks]

Jeff Fenech- Samart Payakaroon was a good all Asian fight. And if some of you want to shout Australia isnt in Asia , well the football team got to the world cup after winning the asian qualifiers and they are considered an Asian team in football at their own behest.

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you mean samart payakaroon?

it was alright, the thai was doing well and then really folded badly from what i recall.

[Seamus]

Pone Kingpetch vs Fighting Harada I
Hiroyuki Ebihara vs Chartchoi Chionoi
Jung Koo Chang vs Sot Chitalada I

[King Carlos]

Masao Ohba/Chartchai Chionoi

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how about this 1999 fight:

chris john KO12 muhammad alfaridzi.

here is a boxrec summary of the fight:

John was knocked down twice in round 1, Alfaridzi on the deck twice in round 11.
In round 12 Alfaridzi was down again, and he didn't get up as the ref counted until 10.
John got his nose broken and suffered a severe bleeding from his nose.

it fits in "boxers of the past", as alfaridzi died less than 2 years later following another fight.

don't want to sound like a ghoul, but does anyone have this fight between john and alfaridzi?

[meade95]

The great Sung Kil Moon's winning title effort vs Nana Kondu was a classic (I know Kondu is African)....But a hell of a fight it was, that was fought in Asia....Wild brawl. The rematch Moon just destroyed him.

[Diamond WEAPON]

seems like, if a thread doesn't mention larry holmes or ezzard charles, it doesn't get much of a response on here.

anyway, are the first two lorenzo parra-takefumi sakata fights good enough to qualify inclusion in this thread?

has katushige kawashima been in any terrific wars? - he certainly had an exciting style and was matched tough.

how about joichiro tatsuyoshi - any others to go with that brutal slugging match with singwangcha?

Kawashima's fights with Mijares were good ones, especially with how the second one ended: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4zb0W5-3 ... =1&index=7

Mijares was a sneaky lil bastard for that stunt.

HLs of their first bout: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cVzfmBCc ... re=related

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yeah, the first bout is quite good, because mijares looked finished at the start but came back to win.

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toshiaki nishioka v nakajima. closely scored bout, with nishioka scraping by despite (or because of) scoring a knockdown. only seen h/l so far, so i don't know how close it actually was. nishioka looked to be in control in the first half, but got cut by the bigger man who started applying the pressure midway. nishioka responded with a superb straight left knockdown in the 7th and they had some tremendous late exchanges to close their non title 10 rounder.

injin chi v eichi sugama, WBC 126 title. chi looked flat and weight drained, gassing midway after being in control, getting dropped around the end of the 6th (though no count was given) and being stunned and looking on the verge of a stoppage loss in the following session. sugama fails to press and chi picks things up, scoring 2 knockdowns in the 10th, one a superb lead right uppercut, the following barrage finishing the spent challenger.

injin chi v rololfo lopez (obviously a non asian). chi's final fight. first time i've seen him throw proper straight punches, much more accurate than usual and showing a canny defense. chi fought with a desperation that night, following 2 poor performances in a row. i believe chi used a different approach because he was fighting someone bigger and stronger at the weight than himself. chi was seamless going from front foot to back foot,, using some really impressive angles, but lopez was strong all the way through. some really exciting exchanges, chi hurt once or twice, but always storming back with an answer. the way he timed the right over lopez's slow left, and the way he smothered his stronger opponent makes me think a little bit of duran v barkley.

pongsaklek wonjongkam v ronnie canete. see extract from ringtv.com's "all star report cards":

PONGSAKLEK WONJONGKAM
Flyweight champion
77-3-1 (41 KOs)

TALENT: Thailand’s living legend is an intelligent, fluid fighter who has mastered the basics of boxing and executes them with businesslike precision. A southpaw with better than average power, one of Wonjongkam’s favorite tactics is a combination to the body followed by a fast uppercut to the chin. The savvy ring technician is gutsy too. A 2002 bout with journeyman Ronnie Canete saw Wonjongkam dropped and nearly stopped in the first round, but he regrouped and knocked Canete out in the third. Grade: A

http://www.ringtv.com/blog/2423/the_rin ... onjongkam/

[Counter-puncher]

nice thread mate, can't add much to it beyond saying that Naito fella has the ugliest herkyjerky style i have ever seen. makes me want to see him get banjoed its that ugly.

re the two draws between Nishioka and the V- how do you score them?

i don't think i could really quarrel with a 7-5 score either way, or indeed a 6-6 score, in the 3rd fight/ second draw.

however i thought the V took too long to warm up in their 2nd fight/ first draw, thought Nishioka got a decent lead early and V's pressure later on wasa little too late IMO.

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you mean samart payakaroon?

it was alright, the thai was doing well and then really folded badly from what i recall.

yeah he got some decent shots off but Fenech just mugged him and ran him out of the ring. you could almost see the terror in the thai's eyes at the remorseless Fenech's assault.

[Counter-puncher]

What are the best fights involving only Asian boxers?

Can be from any era.

Best I've seen:

probably Joichiro Tatsuyoshi's brawl with Sirimongkol Singwangcha - 6 or 7 rounds of pure chaos, late '90s. WBC bantamweight title. Wild slugging, very little defense. Tatsuyoshi wins it, then loses 2 fights, one-sided, to Veeraphol Sahaprom.

hopefully you guys will keep things rolling...

i love hearing the japanese commentators shouting 'bo-dee, bo-dee' every time tatsuyoshi folds the Thai in half with a left.

[Counter-puncher]

this year's poonsawat kratingdaenggym v satoshi hosono was another punch fest, a very tough fight between two apparent light hitters.

i wonder if there will be rematches, due to the closeness of the scoring?

aye- loads of close rounds in there. similar styles, too, so separating them wasn't easy in that fight, not at all.

[darren_simion]

The Rodel Mayol vs Eagle Kyowa fight was a good one as well. Prolly the only fight where a Filipino fighter that I like lost and yet I still watch time and time again. D