Statement on Hatton TV about Ricky Hatton

[nigeltsport]

http://www.brandhatton.com/TV/News

[Chambers2]

Ricky's had a few lines of coke and now he needs to go to rehab to get clean No need for rehab Ricky, just stop snorting the shite (ketamine is far better)....... it's not hard

[rob h]

Awww, poor Ricky eh.

[Wales]

Ricky's had a few lines of coke and now he needs to go to rehab to get clean No need for rehab Ricky, just stop snorting the shite (ketamine is far better)....... it's not hard

Exactly what I was saying yesterday "rehab" - load of rubbish. You've been blase, been caught man up and admit to enjoying it, stop doing it (or getting caught doing it), and move on.

Also, choose your friends wisely cos you've been stiched up like a right tit by that woman

[Chambers2]

Ricky's had a few lines of coke and now he needs to go to rehab to get clean No need for rehab Ricky, just stop snorting the shite (ketamine is far better)....... it's not hard

Exactly what I was saying yesterday "rehab" - load of rubbish. You've been blase, been caught man up and admit to enjoying it, stop doing it (or getting caught doing it), and move on.

Also, choose your friends wisely cos you've been stiched up like a right tit by that woman

Yeah spot on.

[Finn]

Some people never take drink and drug addiction/problems seriously. George Best had forever of people patting him on his back and helping him to ruin his life; Ricky will have the same. If you spend the lion's share of your life out on the piss, snorting gear and eating shite; or recovering from the after-effects and dealing with the side-effects of the aforementioned, you need to get your act together and change your social circle.

Those of you who do a couple of lines at the weekend but have a job to get up for on a Monday morning can normally keep a handle on your usage. Those who have the means to go out every night and/or don't work 9-5 if very much at all, can quickly get into a mess.

It might be the signs on a downward spiral.

[ALI]

Exactly what I was saying yesterday "rehab" - load of rubbish. You've been blase, been caught man up and admit to enjoying it, stop doing it (or getting caught doing it), and move on.

Exactly! All this "i'm so sorry" bollocks is chior boy stuff. Man up Ricky for christ sake.

And get the drivel video statement pulled from your website, i nearly brought up my breakfast watching it!

[boxingchat]

Exactly what I was saying yesterday "rehab" - load of rubbish. You've been blase, been caught man up and admit to enjoying it, stop doing it (or getting caught doing it), and move on.

Exactly! All this "i'm so sorry" bollocks is chior boy stuff. Man up Ricky for christ sake.

And get the drivel video statement pulled from your website, i nearly brought up my breakfast watching it!

I agree 100%. This Max Clifford inspired 'make the idiot into the victim' tactic has been done so many times before and it's pathetic. Hatton wasn't a junkie when he took it the first time was he? He is a pratt and it's his own fault and no one elses. All those back-slappers must have known about it so why did they let him get so out of control? He has a lawyer and ex Policeman in constant tow so don't tell me they didn't see the signs or worse. Where was he getting it from. 7 lines in a night is hardly a free offering at a party is? Pablo Escobar would be kept busy with those demands.

Citing boredom is an insult to the people who paid to watch him box. He's earned millions and has new interests to concentrate on. How can you be bored with his dough anyway?

A sad and pathetic excuse form someone who has dragged his sport and reputation down with him.

As for the feind who has deep concerns for him. Maybe she can give the £25k plus she received from the NOTW world to a rehab centre for real people who can't afford to spend a month in the Priory for their problems because unlike Hatton they are skint and on skid row.

Hiding in the Priory is just a tactic to avoid Police interest and the sanctions the BBBofC should be immediately imposing on him. Bullshit.

The whole thing is pathetic. He wouldn't stop doing it if he hadn't got caught would he.

[mickey1975]

I was wondering myself where his ex-cop minder was.He wont let peolpe near him half the time so how did a dealer get to him?
A 100% yes man.He must have seen the signs from his police career,if not,he needs sacking.

[DavidPayne]

Don't set Spud off on a Paul Speak of the devil tirade......hide under the table....he's coming...not in a biblical sense.........

[Happy Slapper]

Give him a break. Yeah just coz he got caught doesn't mean he has a problem, but I can genuinely believe that he is depressed and a bit of an alcoholic.

Ricky gave British boxing an enormous shot in the arm when it badly needed it. He always gave his all in the ring and was always value for money when watching him. He also went after the best fighters in the world and tested himself to the limit.

The guys a British boxing great in my opinion, and I really don't understand the hatred.

[doctorboxing]

As for the feind who has deep concerns for him. Maybe she can give the £25k plus she received from the NOTW world to a rehab centre for real people who can't afford to spend a month in the Priory for their problems because unlike Hatton they are skint and on skid row.

This might be the first thing you have posted on this forum that I have agreed with. She should be asked to give this money to a drug support charity to show she "did it out of concern for Ricky".

[bigdaddy]

As for the feind who has deep concerns for him. Maybe she can give the £25k plus she received from the NOTW world to a rehab centre for real people who can't afford to spend a month in the Priory for their problems because unlike Hatton they are skint and on skid row.

This might be the first thing you have posted on this forum that I have agreed with. She should be asked to give this money to a drug support charity to show she "did it out of concern for Ricky".

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[earsjohn]

A sad and pathetic excuse form someone who has dragged his sport and reputation down with him.

I'm sorry but I just don't get how he is supposed to have dragged his sport down? Will Macklin, DeGale, Brook et al be coming out to a hail of rotten veg on saturday for taking part in a sport so closely associated with the evils of drug taking? I think not. The sport of boxing should and will remain entirely unaffected by the actions of one man acting in his own time with his own money.

I'd also say that were Hatton to put in some kind of public apprearance or step back into the ring, 99% of his support would remain - there are likely to be very few people who consider him sad and pathetic.

[TheCobra]

A sad and pathetic excuse form someone who has dragged his sport and reputation down with him.

I'm sorry but I just don't get how he is supposed to have dragged his sport down? Will Macklin, DeGale, Brook et al be coming out to a hail of rotten veg on saturday for taking part in a sport so closely associated with the evils of drug taking? I think not. The sport of boxing should and will remain entirely unaffected by the actions of one man acting in his own time with his own money.

I'd also say that were Hatton to put in some kind of public apprearance or step back into the ring, 99% of his support would remain - there are likely to be very few people who consider him sad and pathetic.

Exactly, the papers like laying it on thick, as clearly do rival promoters. End of the day the majority of the fans will still be with him.

Yeh he's been daft, he's took some naughty drugs, ooooh. So what, how many people do this stuff all the time in their everyday lives and people think nothing of it. I always find it funny that because alcohol is a legal drug, then everything is fine, but if you touch a bit of coke you are some kind of druggy smack head bringing the whole world into disrepute. Makes me laugh.

How many other boxers have had problems like this. It is the do-gooders who make the most problems in any aport. Becuase they fail to see that the fans like sportsmen who are human beings, who make mistakes, who show they have a human side. Joe Public does not like programmed robots.

[palooka]

Alcohol, cocaine and heroin do about the same personal and social damage. There are some very self righteous and hypocritical people about.

[Chambers2]

Alcohol, cocaine and heroin do about the same personal and social damage.

Not in my area they don't! Heroin is far far worse on a personal and social level

In fact what you've wrote there is absolute drivel

[palooka]

I work in a community drug rehab and have been a substance misuse counsellor mate, and I have to say the alcohol detox is a killer - it has to be done in hospital with Doctors and Nurses and full medical management. The A and E departments are chokka with pissed up accidents and fight injuries every weekend. There are many people manage a drug problem and still work and never give anyone any problems whatsoever. Just because you disagree with what I posted don't imagine I know fornicate all.

[Chambers2]

I work in a community drug rehab and have been a substance misuse counsellor mate, and I have to say the alcohol detox is a killer - it has to be done in hospital with Doctors and Nurses and full medical management. The A and E departments are chokka with pissed up accidents and fight injuries every weekend. There are many people manage a drug problem and still work and never give anyone any problems whatsoever. Just because you disagree with what I posted don't imagine I know eff all.

I didn't imagine anything, I just strongly disagreed with what you said i.e."that cocaine has the same social and personal impact as heroin does". The smackheads have a far worse social impact in my area than cokeheads do. On the whole the cokeheads I know are hardworking people who can support their habit financially, the majority of smackheads I know are dirty horrible thieving bastards

I agree with everything you say about alcohol, I've had a few mates who I've visited in rehab whilst they were trying to get off heroin and the places are full of alcoholics........ and speed freaks

[DavidPayne]

I love the evolving descriptions.

Coke heads, good, ordinary hard working people who pay their way.
Heroin users, srag head, steal from their mother scum.
Pot-heads, losers and dropouts who pang for munchies and doss about (or have MS) and beneath them all;
Piss-heads, get wankered, are promiscious, look for fights and tear apart families.

J. H. Christ on a bicycle.

[whiskey]

Simon, you must have seen some sights, but i gotta agree with Chambers on this one.

I think most hookers end up on the streets for a fix of brown, not for a Bacardi breezer.

Ive known people with drinking problems, Ive known coke heads and have seen what stupid things they do - and by far the worst state I've ever seen people sink into is from the use of heroin.

My friend had a reasonable job, was a singer in a band and was doing gigs. Had a lovely girlfriend and came from a decent family of professionals. His brothers work on fleet street and for Nokia international respectively.

He liked to have a puff of 'da herb' and once, after a regional bust, his supply was dry. After a week he was offered 'brown' and desperate to smoke anything, he decided he would have a pop, even though he was concerned of other's abuse of it. After his weed-drought ended, he began to buy a bit of 'brown' when he bought his weed as a weekend kind of treat. Said it inspired him to write better lyrics and gave him a greater stoned sensation.

Fast forward 9 months.

His 'treat' of a brown once a week or fortnight (which he thought he could control and wouldn't fall into the pit) had spiralled into a daily usuage that resulted in him losing his job. He also began injecting it seriously and falling into debt rapidly to buy it. He found himself in some hell holes. Once a guy actually died in the house he was at and the dealer put his body in the street and rang the ambulance saying he'd spotted someone seemingly fall over.

Ultimately he robbed a petrol station and was arrested and got 4 years of which he served just under half at Stafford prison. Upon his arrest the band, who had just been signed to support Alice Cooper at Wembley, fired him. He lost his girlfriend and his family disowned him. He tried to off himself in prison.

Upon his release he did some aerial rigging and sattelite installing for a pitance. He was found out and the employer sacked him as he thought he would be trouble. He met a girl, they had a couple of kids and now lives on benefits and has been unable to work for the last 6 years or more. His life is effectively over and he is only 35. On the birght side, he lucky he is still alive.

This was a lad who'd made any mother proud, he was well thought of by everyone and very popular and witty. He made a mistake and has suffered terribly as a result.

[Chambers2]

I've got mates with almost identical stories Gomez (and one who wasn't so lucky), it rips families and lives aparts

[Srebmun]

Alcohol, cocaine and heroin do about the same personal and social damage.

Not in my area they don't! Heroin is far far worse on a personal and social level

In fact what you've wrote there is absolute drivel

No way (bold bit), and very very harsh in my opinion.

Heroin and crack are the fast track options to despair, but alcohol reaches deeper in to society as it's accepted.

In my experience the most dangerous to detox from are alcohol and benzos, there's far more fatalities from both of those in the realm of detox than anything else, far more. Most heroin deaths are from ODing, not detoxing.

[Srebmun]

I think most hookers end up on the streets for a fix of brown, not for a Bacardi breezer.

Not all prostitutes are drugs addicts. But the vast majority of street prostitutes - the most dangerous end of the business - very likely are.

Alcoholics are a good example, so good point re: Bacardi breezer.

Children's parents don't go to prison for being alcoholics per se. A 'functional' alcoholic can carry on bringing up children without state intervention, maintain a job, and fund their £10 a day booze habit. All the while that alcohol is killing them quicker than prescription grade heroin would kill a heroin addict.

Prohibition has created a powerful criminal market place and a very high commodity price for narcotics is a foolish way of dealing with the human desire to take drugs. The reason an ounce of smack costs more than an ounce of gold is because of smacks illigality, remove that and addicts can usually afford to scrape the wedge together for a fix without resorting to mugging grannies or selling their bodies.

All the problems of drug addiction are occurring in a system where they are illegal and society, for the most part, turns a blind eye to them, but where there's a stigma about getting help, stigma about getting caught with them, stigma about being honest about drug use - how does that work then??

Re: heroin - what I think is anyone with an addiction to heroin registers with their doctor. Many people already do this. The doctor prescribes pharmaceutical heroin, as much as the addict needs. The addict injects their smack and leaves the centre. They can return to the centre when they need another hit, the centre is open 24 hours a day.

What might then happens is overnight dealers can no longer sell heroin, the market collapses. The addict gets the same level of purity with each hit, overdoses become a thing of the past.

HIV/Hep etc. are no longer spread through shared needles. Burglary etc. to fund a habit stops. If and when the addict wishes to come off heroin full support is offered.

Alcohol, coke, heroin - they're all the feckin same when it comes to the mess they cause our society, but the one that has the most impact is alcohol.

[Srebmun]

Simon, you must have seen some sights, but i gotta agree with Chambers on this one.

I think most hookers end up on the streets for a fix of brown, not for a Bacardi breezer.

Ive known people with drinking problems, Ive known coke heads and have seen what stupid things they do - and by far the worst state I've ever seen people sink into is from the use of heroin.

My friend had a reasonable job, was a singer in a band and was doing gigs. Had a lovely girlfriend and came from a decent family of professionals. His brothers work on fleet street and for Nokia international respectively.

He liked to have a puff of 'da herb' and once, after a regional bust, his supply was dry. After a week he was offered 'brown' and desperate to smoke anything, he decided he would have a pop, even though he was concerned of other's abuse of it. After his weed-drought ended, he began to buy a bit of 'brown' when he bought his weed as a weekend kind of treat. Said it inspired him to write better lyrics and gave him a greater stoned sensation.

Fast forward 9 months.

His 'treat' of a brown once a week or fortnight (which he thought he could control and wouldn't fall into the pit) had spiralled into a daily usuage that resulted in him losing his job. He also began injecting it seriously and falling into debt rapidly to buy it. He found himself in some hell holes. Once a guy actually died in the house he was at and the dealer put his body in the street and rang the ambulance saying he'd spotted someone seemingly fall over.

Ultimately he robbed a petrol station and was arrested and got 4 years of which he served just under half at Stafford prison. Upon his arrest the band, who had just been signed to support Alice Cooper at Wembley, fired him. He lost his girlfriend and his family disowned him. He tried to off himself in prison.

Upon his release he did some aerial rigging and sattelite installing for a pitance. He was found out and the employer sacked him as he thought he would be trouble. He met a girl, they had a couple of kids and now lives on benefits and has been unable to work for the last 6 years or more. His life is effectively over and he is only 35. On the birght side, he lucky he is still alive.

This was a lad who'd made any mother proud, he was well thought of by everyone and very popular and witty. He made a mistake and has suffered terribly as a result.

Sad, but not uncommon tale. I'm sure tho' there are just as many tales of people falling into a place of despair just as quickly and heroin not be the reason, mental health is one, gambling is another and in some ways the decline can be much quicker.

Heroin itself as a chemical compound is not the problem, the problem is the way the framework of society/the law deals with it.

Anyone who doesn't see that, well....