Classic American West Coast Boxing

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Randyman wrote:
Rick Farris wrote: Frank, I'm working at Paramount Studio tomorrow, which is just a few blocks from the lunch, but I won't be able to stop by.
I talked with Don Fraser and as soon as I have a tuesday free I'd like to show the interviews that Dan & I did awhile back.
I'll do so when I can everybody a little notice. I know some of those interviewed might want to be there.
I think the The Ring is a classic, as it shows the L.A. skyline as it was when the only skyscraper was the City Hall.
The cameos and the buildings really give this the feeling of L.A. boxing at the time.
Of course, how would I know about that? I was born the year the movie came out, 1952.
However, I saw it in the sixties, and enjoyed those little shots of Art Aragon, Keeny Teran, etc.
I remember the first time I watched I recognized the Teamsters Gym, where I had just had my first fight.
And Jimmy Lennon Sr. still had dark hair in those days.
And Rita Moreno was just a teenager back then.

Frank, I think you & I are the movies biggest fans.
you can count me as one of the Ring"s biggest fans as well, and for all the same reasons. One of my personal favorite.

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Randy, I know that you are also a fan of the movie, in fact, wasn't it you that first mentioned it on this thread?
Maybe it was Frank? I don't remember, but it immediatly brought back my fond memories of the film and how I always wished I had a copy of it.
Frank made that happen and I've already watched it a couple of times with friends.
Some people are "Rocky Horror Picture Show" fanatics, etc. I guess this is our cult favorite. We're the cult. :lol:
No funny "cool aid" in this cult.

I wrote a quick review on the "The Ring" last year on my blog. You can check it out here:
http://boxing-ring.blogspot.com/2009/06/ring-1952.html

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Randyman wrote:
I wrote a quick review on the "The Ring" last year on my blog. You can check it out here:
http://boxing-ring.blogspot.com/2009/06/ring-1952.html

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Great review Randy...... :TU: :TU:
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kikibalt wrote:
Randyman wrote:
I wrote a quick review on the "The Ring" last year on my blog. You can check it out here:
http://boxing-ring.blogspot.com/2009/06/ring-1952.html

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Great review Randy...... :TU: :TU:
Thanks Frank.


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kikibalt wrote:
Randyman wrote:
I wrote a quick review on the "The Ring" last year on my blog. You can check it out here:
http://boxing-ring.blogspot.com/2009/06/ring-1952.html

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Great review Randy...... :TU: :TU:
Agreed! :TU: :TU:
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Barefoot in the dark. The famous Carruthers-Songkitrat fight.
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Down for the count with a nasty cold...... :witzend:
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kikibalt wrote:Down for the count with a nasty cold...... :witzend:
Take care of yourself, and get well, my friend!
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kikibalt wrote:Down for the count with a nasty cold...... :witzend:
Take care of yourself, and get well, my friend!
Thanks Tom.....
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Mexico's newest boxing star: Fame as quick as his fists

From a small town in Jalisco to a key match at the Staples Center on Saturday, 20-year-old phenom Saul Alvarez, undefeated through 34 pro fights, has come a long way. 'Before, I had nothing,' he says. 'So I still have that hunger.'
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Saul "Canelo" Alvarez, right, swings at Argentinian Luciano Cuello during their Super Welter title bout of the World Boxing Council in Guadalajara. Alvarez won by knock out in the sixth round. He is undefeated in 34 pro bouts. (EPA/STR)

By Kevin Baxter

September 16, 2010

Reporting from Guadalajara, Mexico —
It wasn't all that long ago that he had to wait for a hot, jam-packed bus to get from his mother's home in tiny Juanacatlan to his gym in Guadalajara, about 15 miles away.

"It used to take me an hour," Saul Alvarez says.

On this September afternoon, he's making the trip — 20 minutes by car — relaxing in the brown leather passenger seat of his black Cadillac Escalade, fiddling with the CD player and singing off-key over the air conditioning.

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Driver Erick Arreola slaloms the SUV through the late-afternoon traffic, pointing out two billboards on which a sultry Marisol Gonzalez, a former Miss Mexico, models a clothing line.

"That's his girlfriend," he says, nodding to Alvarez.

The bus, clearly, is a thing of the past. In the last year, Alvarez — Mexico's latest boxing sensation — has acquired a stable of cars, two horses and a glamorous girlfriend. He owes it all to his fast fists, which have kept him undefeated through 34 pro fights.

His next test comes Saturday when he meets former WBC welterweight champion Carlos Baldomir of Argentina at the Staples Center in Los Angeles. A victory probably will set Alvarez up for a title shot of his own next year.

All this and he's just two months past his 20th birthday. Which explains why he takes none of it for granted.

"Before, I had nothing," Alvarez says. "So I still have that hunger. All this came very fast."

A hunger and a purpose. Alvarez's success provides hope and inspiration to a nation that needs distractions from a drug war that has left thousands dead and millions more living in fear. His fights draw TV ratings nearly equal to those of the national soccer team, according to Mexican network Televisa, making him one of the country's most-watched athletes.

"If the people like watching me, see me as an example of someone succeeding, as a young guy who has the will to win, then I'm happy," Alvarez says. "Then people will see you don't have to choose other options."

Alvarez grew up the youngest of seven brothers in Juanacatlan, a town in central Jalisco state, surrounded by verdant pastures and hills. On summer days he would swim or fish in the Rio Grande de Santiago, now polluted with chemicals dumped by factories upstream.

"It used to be really pretty here," he says with a sigh.

His parents separated when he was 15, splitting up their children. Alvarez lived with his mother Ana Maria in a concrete-block house on a hot, dusty street. Today his mother lives with him in a fifth-floor apartment in Guadalajara's trendy Colonia Providencia neighborhood.

With a shock of rust-colored hair, prominent freckles and skin so pale it's nearly translucent, Alvarez looks about as Mexican as green beer. While that would eventually earn him the nickname "Canelo," Spanish for cinnamon, as a boy all it got him was a lot of grief from the neighborhood kids.

"Because of that I learned to use my fists," says Alvarez, a solid puncher who has won 25 of his fights by knockout. "I would fight them if they said anything. I found out I had a natural talent for it and I could defend myself."

At the age of 11, he followed his brother Rigoberto into a boxing gym. Eventually all the Alvarez boys would become boxers. But none was as good as Saul.

"He surprised me when he put on the gloves for the first time, the great natural talent that he had," says Rigoberto who this month will fight Japan's Nobuhiro Ishida in a light-middleweight bout. "He couldn't become a businessman.… He was born to be a boxer."

Ana Maria remembers her youngest, the only one with her red hair and light complexion, as a restless and mischievous boy.

Alvarez often spent Sundays working in his father Santos' ice cream shop. But by the time he turned 12, he was more interested in fighting than in selling ice cream. At 15, he dropped out of school to turn pro.

"One day he came to me and said, 'Your work is too hard.' He said he wanted to box," remembers the elder Alvarez, who feared his small, skinny son would get hurt. "He told me, 'It's going to turn out OK. I'm going to be good.' "

Saul was right. Less than five years after his pro debut and a decade after tangling with neighborhood bullies, Alvarez has become a celebrity in Mexico. One day he's being teased because he looks like Howdy Doody, the next he's being praised because he fights like Muhammad Ali.

"Now he's training to become a world champion," Santos Alvarez says. "If that happens, he'll make millions. That's better than selling ice cream."

Saul Alvarez has few interests outside boxing but he feels passionate about horseback riding, something he rarely gets to enjoy these days. With a couple of friends in town recently, he couldn't resist a trip to the small farm on the edge of Juanacatlan where he keeps his two horses, Dandy and Bon-bon, one given to him by singer Vicente Fernandez and the other a gift from the mayor of nearby Tepic, where Alvarez sometimes trains.

Horseback riding isn't the safest thing to do a couple of weeks before a major fight, especially the way Alvarez does it, whistling and slapping Dandy, the larger of the two horses, to get him to gallop, buck, skip and dance to Mexican ranchera music. The serenity of the moment is quickly shattered, though, when a girl streaking past on the back of a motorcycle calls out to the boxer.

"Canelo!," she yells. Alvarez is one of the most-recognized athletes in Mexico, and almost everyone addresses him by his nickname.

When Alvarez and Arreola, his training partner and a fledgling fighter, go for an early morning workout in Guadalajara's Colomos park, the shout-outs follow them on their 25-minute run over hilly, crowded trails.

"Canelo!," women coo as they dash by.

"Champion!" some of the men call.

Later, when Alvarez returns to his apartment, two men delivering a sofa drop it in the street to run over to take a picture.

It happens everywhere. When the Escalade stops at a traffic light in Juanacatlan, two young boys — one wearing a dirty and tattered "Canelo" T-shirt — rush over for autographs. A dinner with friends in an otherwise empty sushi restaurant is interrupted when two squealing girls come in off the street to greet him.

Each time Alvarez is asked for a picture he strikes the classic boxer pose, wrapping one arm around the person's shoulder and cocking the fist on the other. He even does it when someone asks for a photo of him with his horse.

"It's very difficult for him to go anywhere," says his trainer Eddy Reynoso. "Sometimes that bothers him."

But Alvarez says otherwise: "… it doesn't bother me. I get motivated by the fact people are following me, that they want a photo or say 'vamos' or 'Canelo.' "

Alvarez was little-known outside his country until he beat Puerto Rico's Jose Miguel Cotto in May in Las Vegas. It was just his third fight outside Mexico but his ferocity in the ring quickly won him fans.

He is often compared to Oscar de la Hoya, the East L.A fighter whose success and matinee-idol looks drew crowds wherever he went.

"I was in shock when I went to go see him in Guadalajara," says De la Hoya, whose company has been promoting Alvarez since January. "It reminded me of when I was fighting. So many women and girls, from the grandma and the mother, were there to watch him fight and to see him in a press conference weigh-in. And that's when I said to myself, 'You know what? We have something special here.'

"He can fight but at the same time he has that crossover appeal. Women adore him."

De la Hoya won the first of his 10 world titles a month after his 21st birthday. If Alvarez defeats Baldomir on Saturday, he could find himself fighting for a championship early next year, six months ahead of that schedule.

Just don't expect to hear Alvarez bragging about it though. Because while there's no doubt he's confident, he prefers to let his actions speak for themselves.

In a recent conference call with reporters, the trash-talking Baldomir promised a knockout and repeatedly tried to draw his opponent into a war of words. But Alvarez deftly sidestepped the verbal jabs, praising his opponent and promising to do his best.

"It's an honor speaking with you," is how Alvarez invariably begins and ends most interviews. After concluding one with a radio talk-show host from the living room of his tidy two-bedroom apartment, Alvarez hands a cellphone back to his publicist, leans back on a sofa the color of a baseball glove and opens up in a way he didn't with the radio or TV people.

"My goal in boxing is to be the best," he says, the bus rides and the bullies now just distant memories. "I want to be like a Muhammad Ali, like a Julio Cesar Chavez. So when people talk about boxing, they have to remember Canelo."

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He does look strange for a Mexican - well, not strange, just different.
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Lupe Pintor is your more stereotypical Mexican, and this weekend marks the 30th anniversary of the tragic death of Johnny Owen against Pintor in Los Angeles on September 19, 1980. In 2002, Lupe made his way to Owen's hometown of Merthyr Tydfil in Wales to unveil a statue of Owen, which was a fantastic gesture from the former world bantamweight king. Former world heavyweight king Mike Tyson visited the memorial last year, another wonderful gesture.



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bennie wrote:He does look strange for a Mexican - well, not strange, just different.
Mexicans come in all colors. In my Mexican family I have blond blue/green eyed cousins, one red haired. My own granddaughter, Keana, has hazel eyes.
My dad was as dark as a black man, my mom was as white as a white woman; as you can see in the picture below, that picture was shot on their 50th (1984) wedding anniversary.
But it is true that most Mexicans are dark skin.....

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kikibalt wrote:
bennie wrote:He does look strange for a Mexican - well, not strange, just different.
Mexicans come in all colors. In my Mexican family I have blond blue/green eyed cousins, one red haired. My own granddaughter, Keana, has hazel eyes.
My dad was as dark as a black man, my mom was as white as a white woman; as you can see in the picture below, that picture was shot on their 50th (1984) wedding anniversary.
But it is true that most Mexicans are dark skin.....

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Mom & Pop on their wedding day (1934)
Frank, I love those old classic family photos. :TU:

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kikibalt wrote:Down for the count with a nasty cold...... :witzend:
Hope you feel better soon Frank. The weather has been a little weird lately and that doesn't help a cold.
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I hooked up with my cousins yesterday at L.A. Live across from the Staples Center. We went to a restaurant, ate and had a few beers and had a great time catching up. Louie's fighter, Antonio Escalante, will be fighting on the undercard tomorrow night. Both of my cousins still look in good shape.

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Me and my cousin Louie Burke

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Randyman wrote:I hooked up with my cousins yesterday at L.A. Live across from the Staples Center. He went to a restaurant ate and had a few beers and had a great time catching up. Louie's fighter, Antonio Escalante, will be fighting on the undercard tomorrow night. Both of my cousins still look in good shape.

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Me and my cousin Louie Burke

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Louie looks well. You couldn't tell he was a top class fighter which tells you that he must have been good.
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Mora came in three pounds heavy at 157. He has a better chance now because making 154 would have weakened him.
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Sergio Mora faces Shane Mosley, but not before mother's blessing

The former WBC junior-middleweight champion from East L.A. could earn another title shot if he can beat Shane Mosely on Saturday night at Staples Center. His mother Ines, a former housekeeper, is firmly in his corner.

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Boxer Sergio Mora was raised by his single mom Ines Campos Mora, who lives in this spacious Downey home he bought for her 62nd birthday three years ago. (Gina Ferazzi / Los Angeles Times)

By Lance Pugmire

September 17, 2010
More than 40 years ago, a 19-year-old girl left her small ranch home in Cosala, Mexico, for a low-paying job as a housekeeper's assistant in Beverly Hills.

"I was afraid and nervous, but I wanted a better life," Ines Campos Mora said.

On Saturday night, capping a weeklong Los Angeles celebration of Mexico's independence bicentennial, her son, Sergio Mora, will be introduced amid mariachi music and cheers to fight former world champion Shane Mosley in the main event of a boxing card at Staples Center.

"It's hard not to appreciate what that night represents to me," Ines Mora said recently, joined by her son in the spacious Downey home Sergio bought for her 62nd birthday three years ago. "I'm proud of my bloodline and my heritage, and I'm appreciative for the opportunities this country has given me and my family. Now, it all aligns on a special day."

Sergio Mora (22-1-1, with six knockouts) is a former WBC junior-middleweight champion and hopes to earn another title shot by beating Mosley. "I've always been a firm believer in destiny, and it's no coincidence I'm fighting this big event on such a historical night," Mora, 29, said. "I speak, read and write Spanish and English, and I'm proud to be an American. . . .

"We all come from somewhere, but to be able to be there on that night — with the mariachis blowing, the Tecate flowing and the punches flying — it makes your blood boil."

Oddsmakers say Mora is a 3-1 underdog against Mosley (46-6, 39 KOs). But Mora said he's "very confident" he can beat the 39-year-old from Pomona.

"I want to add another Hall of Famer to my resume," Mora said. "It's all about the resume. [ Muhammad] Ali had those names on his. Oscar [De La Hoya] was the best at it. By continuing to beat those legends, I'm thinking of getting to the other big names at 154 pounds now — [Floyd] Mayweather, [ Manny] Pacquiao, [Antonio] Margarito. But there's a legend in my way right now."

Mora was levied a $57,000 penalty payable to Mosley when he weighed in three pounds over on Friday for the junior-middleweight limit of 154 pounds. After Mosley camp objections, Mora returned to the scale one hour later and weighed 153.6 pounds.

Before the bout, mother and son will continue their ritual of Ines giving Sergio a prefight blessing as he kneels in the locker room.

It's a big change from the three years Ines Campos worked as a housekeeper's assistant for a family here. When she found another opportunity that paid more, she went to work in a furniture warehouse in Santa Fe Springs, ultimately finding the man she would marry, and they bought a residence together in East Los Angeles.

Ines and her husband, Vincent, raised Sergio and his three brothers. But when Sergio was 9, his father's unreliable behavior forced Ines to ask her husband to leave home.

"I brought money into the home to advance us in life, and he was squandering it. I had always dreamed of saving up to buy a house. I couldn't do it by myself, and he wasn't interested in responsibility. That was real difficult for me," Ines said.

Sergio hasn't spoken to his father since he left in 1989. Sergio said his mother would still like him to reconnect with his father, and family friends know where to find him in Mexico. "I'm stubborn about it," Sergio said. "I see her as my father figure."

In East L.A., Mora grew up with other kids without fathers. Within a four-block section, he said, he was among a group of 13 close friends.

"My mother was too busy maintaining our household to ever take a vacation, so I saw many places for the first time — the Grand Canyon, the beach, the mountains — with my friends and their families," Sergio said. "We had nice clothes, and good food to eat in my home. My mom made it work. She still calls herself the coupon lady, and just the other day went back to the store for 71 cents off a watermelon. She's used to doing it. She had to survive."

Ines became a U.S. citizen in 1995. "Life is about difficulties," she said. "As long as you don't give up on yourself, you'll be rewarded."

Sergio's rewards in boxing came slowly. He failed to win a spot on the U.S. Olympic team in 2000, and his pro career languished until he landed a shot on an NBC reality television show called "The Contender." In May 2005, he defeated Peter Manfredo Jr. by unanimous decision and collected a $1-million grand prize.

Sergio grasped the magnitude of his accomplishment when an NBC camera crew pressed him on the question, "What are you fighting for?" Sergio recalls: "I had no kids, wasn't married, but I knew this lady who had cared for me had it hard." His mother was working in a warehouse at the time.

"The day I won 'The Contender,' I told her, 'You're not going back to work tomorrow,'" Sergio said. "She didn't want to quit, but I had just won the damn show. I called her boss myself, and told him, 'She's done. Retired.'"

Then, in June 2008, Mora defeated Vernon Forrest to claim a world junior-middleweight belt. Mora gained 25 pounds after the fight, however, and had trouble making the weight limit for a quickly arranged rematch three month later. He lost the fight, and the title, to Forrest by a decision.

Mora has now united with a new manager and Oscar De La Hoya's Golden Boy Promotions, landing him the marquee bout against Mosley.

"Put me under the lights versus a veteran. I know how to handle adversity," Sergio said.

Mom taught him well.

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Saul Alvarez . . .

I know this kid is getting a lot of publicity and I think it's a good thing.
I've only seen him in his match with Cotto's brother but I was impressed.
The great thing about Alvarez is that he is not a product of amateur boxing.
There was a time when the amateurs was a great start to a pro career.
As they tried to make amateur boxing "safe", they came up with rules that has taken the fight out of boxing.
Basically, today's amateur boxing is ruining the sport. I can understand why the younger generation is gravitating to MMA.
People want to see something that suggests a fight, not a game of tag.
Alvarez is a solid body puncher, and can come back after being rocked to KO his opponent. He comes to fight.
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Randy . . . I'm enjoying the recent stories on your blog. Some great memories via Bill O'Neill, etc.
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Olympic Auditorium boxing promoter Aileen (LaBell) Eaton's maiden name . . .

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Harry Kabakoff was born:

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Mugsy . . .

While fighting in the amateurs, future bantamweight contender Frankie Duarte was tagged "Mugsy".
Some of his buddies, like former world champ Art Frias, still refer to Frankie by that nick name.
I believe he told me this started while a member of the '73 L.A. GG's team, coached by Frank Baltazar.
Frank, do you remember that?
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Randyman wrote:I hooked up with my cousins yesterday at L.A. Live across from the Staples Center. We went to a restaurant, ate and had a few beers and had a great time catching up. Louie's fighter, Antonio Escalante, will be fighting on the undercard tomorrow night. Both of my cousins still look in good shape.

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Me and my cousin Louie Burke

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Rocky Burke, me and Louie Burke

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Jeri, Louie, me and Rocky
Great pictures Randy. Good to see you and Jeri. Even if its just in a polaroid. :TU:
I may be getting out to L.A. in the coming months for work. Its in the negotiation stage as of yet though.....
If so,Im contacting my pals here on the thread. :TU:
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