Mike Tyson Oh yes Mike Tyson.

zurdo · Post by **zurdo** » 29 Apr 2005, 18:11

JohnRuiz wrote:
zurdo wrote:
JohnRuiz wrote: How would he murder Ali?
He would't murder him, he'd just make Ali and Marciano suck his dick. At least thats what Grimm fantasizes about watching
Let's keep this at a serious level. Don't fire Grimm up anymore than you've already done.

Well you can't say the guy didn't ask for it..
as soon as someone brings up a point that Grimm doesn't like, he starts getting personally abusive..

Tantum · Post by **Tantum** » 29 Apr 2005, 18:14

Grimm gets personally abusive about 20 times a day, if you know what I mean.

Preferably while looking at Tyson posters.

Eric the Viking · Post by **Eric the Viking** » 29 Apr 2005, 19:25

silkov wrote:Grimm I'm fraid if you genuinely believe that Tyson is the greatest fighter of all time then its you who needs therapy!

No, as he said himself, he would be needing "the rapist." Maybe Iron Mikey would be willing to oblige one of his most loyal fans this way?

Eric the Viking · Post by **Eric the Viking** » 29 Apr 2005, 19:29

Tantum wrote:Grimm gets personally abusive about 20 times a day, if you know what I mean.

:D:D:TU:

...and I think you do, Grimmy-pooh - my, what ththrong handthh and well-developed forearmthh you have...

Grimm just thinks every Tyson thread deserves a "sticky," if ya knowwhadImeanandIthinkyoudo... ;)

Broncano · Post by **Broncano** » 29 Apr 2005, 19:45

zurdo wrote:When Tyson told Razor Ruddick that he was going make him "kiss him with those big lips"
Grimm just wishes Mikey was talking to him

And here's the proof: five snapshots of Grimm fantasizing about Mikey's sexual escapades:

silkov · Post by **silkov** » 29 Apr 2005, 19:55

JohnRuiz wrote:
Grimm wrote:And as for the guy that posted above you 2 fags, you can say whatever you want about Tyson he was by far the most skilled heavyweight ever, he would murder Marciano and Ali.
How would he murder Ali?

I guess he'd bite his ears off!... :x :x :x :x :x

silkov · Post by **silkov** » 29 Apr 2005, 19:57

Broncano wrote:
zurdo wrote:When Tyson told Razor Ruddick that he was going make him "kiss him with those big lips"
Grimm just wishes Mikey was talking to him
And here's the proof: five snapshots of Grimm fantasizing about Mikey's sexual escapades:

Grimm better watch it or else Mikey will chomp his big ears off!.... 8)

zurdo · Post by **zurdo** » 30 Apr 2005, 02:33

Eric the Viking wrote:
silkov wrote:Grimm I'm fraid if you genuinely believe that Tyson is the greatest fighter of all time then its you who needs therapy!
No, as he said himself, he would be needing "the rapist." Maybe Iron Mikey would be willing to oblige one of his most loyal fans this way?

Grimm dreams of being Iron Mike's cell mate in prison..

KOJOE90 · Post by **KOJOE90** » 30 Apr 2005, 11:00

Grimm wrote:you can say whatever you want about Tyson he was by far the most skilled heavyweight ever, he would murder Marciano and Ali.

This is a wind up right?

If you believe this to be true explain to me why Tyson was/is completely unable to fight off the backfoot?

Grimm · Post by **Grimm** » 30 Apr 2005, 13:58

KOJOE90 wrote:
Grimm wrote:you can say whatever you want about Tyson he was by far the most skilled heavyweight ever, he would murder Marciano and Ali.
This is a wind up right?

If you believe this to be true explain to me why Tyson was/is completely unable to fight off the backfoot?

Ehem...Kojoe,Tyson didn't have to fight off the back foot because he was always moving forward and attacking (jumping his opponents if you will) which he did so well noone would make him back off and fight backwards.

Eric the Viking · Post by **Eric the Viking** » 30 Apr 2005, 14:49

Grimm wrote:Kojoe,Tyson didn't have to fight off the back foot because he was always moving forward and attacking (jumping his opponents if you will) which he did so well noone would make him back off and fight backwards.

You mean, no one except the guys who beat him?

KOJOE90 · Post by **KOJOE90** » 30 Apr 2005, 16:50

Grimm wrote:
KOJOE90 wrote:
Grimm wrote:you can say whatever you want about Tyson he was by far the most skilled heavyweight ever, he would murder Marciano and Ali.
This is a wind up right?

If you believe this to be true explain to me why Tyson was/is completely unable to fight off the backfoot?
Ehem...Kojoe,Tyson didn't have to fight off the back foot because he was always moving forward and attacking (jumping his opponents if you will) which he did so well noone would make him back off and fight backwards.

But he DID have to fight whilst on the back foot on a number of occations such as the first Holyfield fight. But when he was on the retreat he was very ineffective.

If Tyson as you claimed is the most highly skilled Heavyweight of all time why was he so poor when being forced to fight on the backfoot?

Where was his jab for instance? A punch many fighter use whilst retreating by from their opponent? Surely the most highly skilled Heavyweight of all time could manage to throw a well timed jab on the retreat?

Grimm · Post by **Grimm** » 01 May 2005, 22:56

KOJOE90 wrote:
Grimm wrote:
KOJOE90 wrote: This is a wind up right?

If you believe this to be true explain to me why Tyson was/is completely unable to fight off the backfoot?
Ehem...Kojoe,Tyson didn't have to fight off the back foot because he was always moving forward and attacking (jumping his opponents if you will) which he did so well noone would make him back off and fight backwards.
But he DID have to fight whilst on the back foot on a number of occations such as the first Holyfield fight. But when he was on the retreat he was very ineffective.

If Tyson as you claimed is the most highly skilled Heavyweight of all time why was he so poor when being forced to fight on the backfoot?

Where was his jab for instance? A punch many fighter use whilst retreating by from their opponent? Surely the most highly skilled Heavyweight of all time could manage to throw a well timed jab on the retreat?

But as we all know he was much past his prime in the Holyfield fight.

Tantum · Post by **Tantum** » 02 May 2005, 00:48

Yeah, Tyson had been through so many wars, and had health problems, just like Holyfield.

Lexus · Post by **Lexus** » 02 May 2005, 03:21

Grimm wrote:
KOJOE90 wrote:
Grimm wrote: Ehem...Kojoe,Tyson didn't have to fight off the back foot because he was always moving forward and attacking (jumping his opponents if you will) which he did so well noone would make him back off and fight backwards.
But he DID have to fight whilst on the back foot on a number of occations such as the first Holyfield fight. But when he was on the retreat he was very ineffective.

If Tyson as you claimed is the most highly skilled Heavyweight of all time why was he so poor when being forced to fight on the backfoot?

Where was his jab for instance? A punch many fighter use whilst retreating by from their opponent? Surely the most highly skilled Heavyweight of all time could manage to throw a well timed jab on the retreat?
But as we all know he was much past his prime in the Holyfield fight.

Is that why the odds were 15-1 in favour of Tyson?

KOJOE90 · Post by **KOJOE90** » 02 May 2005, 04:33

Grimm wrote:
KOJOE90 wrote:
Grimm wrote: Ehem...Kojoe,Tyson didn't have to fight off the back foot because he was always moving forward and attacking (jumping his opponents if you will) which he did so well noone would make him back off and fight backwards.
But he DID have to fight whilst on the back foot on a number of occations such as the first Holyfield fight. But when he was on the retreat he was very ineffective.

If Tyson as you claimed is the most highly skilled Heavyweight of all time why was he so poor when being forced to fight on the backfoot?

Where was his jab for instance? A punch many fighter use whilst retreating by from their opponent? Surely the most highly skilled Heavyweight of all time could manage to throw a well timed jab on the retreat?
But as we all know he was much past his prime in the Holyfield fight.

Being past your prime does not stop you throwing a jab, the most basic punch in Boxing. Also Holyfield was not exactly a young fresh novice that night.

Tyson also showed this fault and allowed himself to get caught in a clinch too often in the James 'Bonecrusher' Smith fight at that was in his prime years.

J · Post by J » 03 May 2005, 08:12

Grimm wrote:
J wrote:
Grimm wrote: Man you gay people make life suck. I'm trying to talk about the greatest fighter of all time and you bring up men loving Mike Tyson.

GO SEE A FUCKIN' THERAPIST.
IF YOU THINK TYSON IS THE GREATEST FIGHTER OF ALL TIME IT YOU MY FRIEND THAT NEEDS A THERAPIST.

you know the ironic thing is, its the tysonettes that perpetuate his misery, cos until he is done fighting he wont be able to move on.

He could make money in boxing outside the ring, trianing perhaps or maybe even commentating.

However while there is amarket for him, they will keep pushing tyson back in the ring, and its inevitable he is gonna end up getting hurt one day. Or he will pay for the unnecessary punishement he will inevitably take. Its ok fighting the likes of mcbride but he is at some point gonna be pushed toward sa top ten fighter and he could well end up taking a beating.

its sad to see this once awesome fighter being paraded as freakshow and boxing as a shell of his former self just for bucks.

Sorry grimm you ainyt gonna like this but its people like you that are causing this.

People like me are causing mike Tyson to keep fighting and potentially get hurt???????? Shut the fornicate up I made no mention that Tyson should still fight.

yes people like you, foolish nuthugging annoying tosspots, who still believe Mike to be capable fo "something great."
Stupid, ignorant assholes who overate his achievements massivley and think he s ome kind of boxing demigod capcable of super human feats.

Annoying pricks who have to rant and rave at every little criticism of their hero.

They create a market for tyson to be make money out of boxing so he will be fighting so yes, you stupid dick, people JUST LIKE YOU, ignorant asshole.

you fit all these categories you plank.

its very apparent you are about 14 years old, at least mentally and have a tyson fetish.

no need to be abusive just cos you know the truth hurts..

bafoon.

jamesmcdonnell · Post by **jamesmcdonnell** » 03 May 2005, 08:27

Grimm wrote:Look at you fags talkin' about men kissin' men and shit like that, I will no longer comment on anything you 2 fags (silkov and zurdo) have to say.

And as for the guy that posted above you 2 fags, you can say whatever you want about Tyson he was by far the most skilled heavyweight ever, he would murder Marciano and Ali.

I guess Tyson was a fag then, seeing as he was constantly talking about men sucking his dick, and kissing them. Hell, he used to kiss Rooney all the time.

How do you figure he was the most skilled heavyweight ever. He was totally demolished by Buster Douglas, and Holyfield, who was supposedly shot by the time Tyson got him. I'll bet you were one of those saps who thought he was going to batter Lewis too.

Louis, Ali, Holmes, Lewis, and Bowe for that matter, were all more skillful than Tyson, who was only good coming forward. All the aforementioned men could fight aggressively or defensively, and possessed better all around punching skills.

Bard of Boxrec · Post by **Bard of Boxrec** » 03 May 2005, 09:46

This guy Grimm is a total pudendum and needs to be banned.

jamesmcdonnell · Post by **jamesmcdonnell** » 03 May 2005, 11:37

I don't think you can ban someone for merely being an idiot who thinks Mike Tyson is the greatest fighter who ever lived....

Everyone knows that's Audley Harrison..

Tantum · Post by **Tantum** » 03 May 2005, 11:43

If not for being an idiot... This is a good enough excuse.
http://www.boxrec.com/forum/viewtopic.p ... 914#256914

Bard of Boxrec · Post by **Bard of Boxrec** » 03 May 2005, 11:44

You call that not being an idiot?

Tantum · Post by **Tantum** » 03 May 2005, 11:46

Well, that and then some.

barry · Post by **barry** » 03 May 2005, 13:16

You can't be banned for just being an idiot, if so a lot of posters would be gone, but the remarks that Grimm made in the thread that Tantum listed will not be tolerated and persistant shit like that will get anyone banned!

CM · Post by CM » 03 May 2005, 14:40

Tyson's speed and power were undeniable and at his peak, when he had Cus and even Kevin Rooney after Cus passed to program him correctly, he was like a wrecking machine---the key word there being 'machine'. That was his strength AND his weakness---once Cus was gone and he fired Kevin, he was on his own mentally and wasn't the same fighter. He was not a great inside fighter, certainly no Frazier, and even back then had a tendency to do nothing on the inside. Jose Torres talks about this in his book 'Fire and Fear' but it wasn't that hard to see. IF Cus hadn't died, and IF Tyson had kept up his early schedule of fighting frequently and staying sharp, and IF he wasn't a head case in the first place, I'm sure he would have at least broken Marciano's record, but IF a hen had balls it'd be a rooster, too. But still sooner or later he would have run up against an opponent of superior character and fallen short.