Bellew vs Ajisafe RBR

[hurlock]

He said himself last night - "I thought I'd never do 12 rounds at light heavyweight"

interesting

i think he really did believe by dragging himself down to l.heavy the advantages would be like him humungus.i think he has a bit of egg on his face.
smigga know's him well & seem's to think he's a l.heavy period.& has said he never mentioned tony beating clev.i read a post from smigga saying once bellew clean's up at l.heavy,he'll clean up at cruiser.

[HomeOfBritishBoxing]

He said himself last night - "I thought I'd never do 12 rounds at light heavyweight"

interesting

i think he really did believe by dragging himself down to l.heavy the advantages would be like him humungus.i think he has a bit of egg on his face.
smigga know's him well & seem's to think he's a l.heavy period.& has said he never mentioned tony beating clev.i read a post from smigga saying once bellew clean's up at l.heavy,he'll clean up at cruiser.

[Smigga]

He said himself last night - "I thought I'd never do 12 rounds at light heavyweight"

interesting

i think he really did believe by dragging himself down to l.heavy the advantages would be like him humungus.i think he has a bit of egg on his face.
smigga know's him well & seem's to think he's a l.heavy period.& has said he never mentioned tony beating clev.i read a post from smigga saying once bellew clean's up at l.heavy,he'll clean up at cruiser.

He knows best!!!
Joking obviously.... I think Tony would need to cut his 3 legs off to make super middle
Don't get me wrong, he could reach 12st but be carried onto the scales. He'll end up Cruiserweight hopefully after he's cleaned up at 175

There's the quote - note the all important word of "HOPEFULLY after he's cleaned up at 175...."

Wrong again now so trying to twist things that I write?
You think you're an expert on boxing because you know a few boxers from London and are a forum rat. You've been on forums for about 10 years under about 50 diferent names.
I'm Bellew's good friend, talk to him about boxing and boxed as an amateur with him for years yet YOU think you know what he's thinking, planning and needs by wrongly analysing what he says on here and how he performs.

[hurlock]

been on forum's since dec 2009 ;;-)

& why would knowing a few boxer's make someone an expert?? fwank w. has never boxed & imo one of the most knowledgeable.

ive never said im an expert either. everyone & ANYONE who post's on a forum believe's in there opinion's. but you like to try & rip me down & go off topic asking about me & who i am & what ive ever done. this aint facebook i dont want or need a profile to discuss,debate,argue, boxing. im a boxing saddo i no, i dont talk boxing with friend's so come on here to chat with like minded people.

im off now to win a title so that i can come back on here & give it the barry mguigan.

[goldbird]

i think that Sky analysis tonight was sh*t.

I can completely understand where a lot of people are coming from. Darke was sh*te. Bellew Bellew Bellew Bellew Bellew, ........there's TWO fighters in the ring Ian. Pathetic......soon as Ajisafe revealed that he wasn't going to get blown away like a rag doll they change their tune and start to kiss Bob's backside. PATHETICALLY FICKLE SKY.

Well done to the fella on here that warned Bellew "not to hurt his hands on Ajisafe".

Are you very thick darke was not commentating!

I don't pretend to know the full line up of Sky's boxing commentators, I've only ever been aware of Smith and Darke as the "main" commentator.....with not seeing their faces so much over the years I can't tell who's commentating so easily...........................I don't think it takes much away from my point about Sky tho. Some serious bum getting licked in there 2nite.

Ridiculous. Darke and Smith are so VASTLY different. You have admitted in the past that you don't actually watch a lot of boxing and it shows with a comment like that.

[whicker]

Lets not forget, too, that Ajisafe proved too be a decent fighter- had he done better in the early rounds, he may well have taken that.

[JDC]

been on forum's since dec 2009 ;;-)

Joined: Sun Mar 29, 2009

I smell bullcrap

[hurlock]

must be 08 then, since ive been using forum's. time fly's

[n1ebf]

Are you very thick darke was not commentating!

I don't pretend to know the full line up of Sky's boxing commentators, I've only ever been aware of Smith and Darke as the "main" commentator.....with not seeing their faces so much over the years I can't tell who's commentating so easily...........................I don't think it takes much away from my point about Sky tho. Some serious bum getting licked in there 2nite.

Ridiculous. Darke and Smith are so VASTLY different. You have admitted in the past that you don't actually watch a lot of boxing and it shows with a comment like that.

I sense a moron here :>

[palooka]

That 12 rounds will do Bellew loads of good and I think that Ajisafe deserves a lot of credit for standing up to some heavy hits. A boxer can have an 'off' night. When Bellew was wrecking everyone he was 'super' when he has a tough night then 'he's no good'. The right man won but knew he was in a fight. Anyone who walks into a chin shot can go down. Bellew is not ready for the top men yet but can fight, can punch and does not stop throwing. Ajisafe can take comfort that he would give almost anyone a hard night (and a harder time to look good against).

[goldbird]

I don't pretend to know the full line up of Sky's boxing commentators, I've only ever been aware of Smith and Darke as the "main" commentator.....with not seeing their faces so much over the years I can't tell who's commentating so easily...........................I don't think it takes much away from my point about Sky tho. Some serious bum getting licked in there 2nite.

Ridiculous. Darke and Smith are so VASTLY different. You have admitted in the past that you don't actually watch a lot of boxing and it shows with a comment like that.

I sense a moron here :>

Me too

Imagine a british boxing fan who can't tell the difference between Ian Darkes commentary and Adam Smiths commentary

[jBacca]

That 12 rounds will do Bellew loads of good and I think that Ajisafe deserves a lot of credit for standing up to some heavy hits. A boxer can have an 'off' night. When Bellew was wrecking everyone he was 'super' when he has a tough night then 'he's no good'. The right man won but knew he was in a fight. Anyone who walks into a chin shot can go down. Bellew is not ready for the top men yet but can fight, can punch and does not stop throwing. Ajisafe can take comfort that he would give almost anyone a hard night (and a harder time to look good against).

Aye, good post.

For the first few rounds, Ajisafe looked like the Ajisafe I've been used to seeing, but as soon as he survived the early onslaught and got the flash knockdown, he stepped it up big time. Fair play to him for that, he can definitely box.

[Finn]

That 12 rounds will do Bellew loads of good and I think that Ajisafe deserves a lot of credit for standing up to some heavy hits. A boxer can have an 'off' night. When Bellew was wrecking everyone he was 'super' when he has a tough night then 'he's no good'. The right man won but knew he was in a fight. Anyone who walks into a chin shot can go down. Bellew is not ready for the top men yet but can fight, can punch and does not stop throwing. Ajisafe can take comfort that he would give almost anyone a hard night (and a harder time to look good against).

Aye, good post.

For the first few rounds, Ajisafe looked like the Ajisafe I've been used to seeing, but as soon as he survived the early onslaught and got the flash knockdown, he stepped it up big time. Fair play to him for that, he can definitely box.

He needed a tough fight to show the areas he needs to work on, and its a good stage in his career to find those things out.

[Smigga]

been on forum's since dec 2009 ;;-)

Joined: Sun Mar 29, 2009

I smell bullcrap

He's been on warrior for donkeys years under different names. Let him tell us what he wants anyway, no one really cares.

[hurlock]

2006 fact.

new account's down to banning.


you are a proper tool.

[Bomber 1]

Hello everyone, I'll get straight to the point, I did't box a very good fight last night and to be honest that's not just down to me!! Bob Ajisafe is a very awkward customer and I have a lot of respect for the guy, he come with a game plan to frustrate me and it worked so full credit to him.

I on the other side let myself and trainer down a bit by not listening and going for the ko too much!! I will learn from this that's for sure, Like I said I have never come across a more awkward man. I could never land more than 1 meaningful shot at a time....

It's 1 thing watching tapes and another thing performing against a guy like that. Unless you nail the guy early he'll cause a lot of problems for almost anyone..Everyone is gonna have an opinion on me as I have a lot to say BUT that will not change, I will continue to be myself and it is a must that I take some positives and learn from this. I did 12 rounds,Got up from a flash knockdown and after it all I am STILL Commenwealth Champion. I know where I went wrong and I'll try my best to put it right on 23rd October in Liverpool.

I'd like to say thanks for all the comments, Good,bad and the other ones too, I hope this brings guys out to fight me now cos I will face anyone in Britian. I'd finally like to say well done to Bob Ajisafe. He's a nice kid and I have the upmost respect for him I really do, I wish him well in the future..

Once again thanks for support..

[Bomber 1]

I'd also like to say the moaning was done out of great frustration, He kept bending below my waist and it was nearly impossible to nail him, Once again great tactics by him.. The lad reallly does deserve credit and he's another who is avoided!! Who needs a 6ft 2 awkward Ingle southpaw..Full credit to him..

[leforge]

I'd also like to say the moaning was done out of great frustration, He kept bending below my waist and it was nearly impossible to nail him, Once again great tactics by him.. The lad reallly does deserve credit and he's another who is avoided!! Who needs a 6ft 2 awkward Ingle southpaw..Full credit to him..

Will it be a commonwealth defence then?

[Bomber 1]

I'd also like to say the moaning was done out of great frustration, He kept bending below my waist and it was nearly impossible to nail him, Once again great tactics by him.. The lad reallly does deserve credit and he's another who is avoided!! Who needs a 6ft 2 awkward Ingle southpaw..Full credit to him..

Will it be a commonwealth defence then?

Not sure yet mate, Will let you all know once I know...

[Smigga]

2006 fact.

new account's down to banning.


you are a proper tool.

I may be a tool. But you're a liar. It's gone from December 2009, to March 2008 and now "2006 fact"

[Adam1991]

2006 fact.

new account's down to banning.


you are a proper tool.

I may be a tool. But you're a liar. It's gone from December 2009, to March 2008 and now "2006 fact"

ha ha funny

[JDC]

Hello everyone, I'll get straight to the point, I did't box a very good fight last night and to be honest that's not just down to me!! Bob Ajisafe is a very awkward customer and I have a lot of respect for the guy, he come with a game plan to frustrate me and it worked so full credit to him.

I on the other side let myself and trainer down a bit by not listening and going for the ko too much!! I will learn from this that's for sure, Like I said I have never come across a more awkward man. I could never land more than 1 meaningful shot at a time....

It's 1 thing watching tapes and another thing performing against a guy like that. Unless you nail the guy early he'll cause a lot of problems for almost anyone..Everyone is gonna have an opinion on me as I have a lot to say BUT that will not change, I will continue to be myself and it is a must that I take some positives and learn from this. I did 12 rounds,Got up from a flash knockdown and after it all I am STILL Commenwealth Champion. I know where I went wrong and I'll try my best to put it right on 23rd October in Liverpool.

I'd like to say thanks for all the comments, Good,bad and the other ones too, I hope this brings guys out to fight me now cos I will face anyone in Britian. I'd finally like to say well done to Bob Ajisafe. He's a nice kid and I have the upmost respect for him I really do, I wish him well in the future..

Once again thanks for support..

Fair play Tony. You know where you went wrong and I hope you do learn and get the basics right next time. I think the stopage woud have been inevitable had you done this. But full credit to Ajisafe. He made it very difficult. An awkward south-paw is always guna be just that and he needed breaking down more than you gave him credit for (from my perpective)

[JDC]

2006 fact.

new account's down to banning.


you are a proper tool.

I may be a tool. But you're a liar. It's gone from December 2009, to March 2008 and now "2006 fact"

That speaks volumes

[stujones]

It was an entertaining fight, I think Bellew has responded to the criticisms well, look forward to see him put it into practice. I don't need to re-interate the problems, he surely knows he was way too right hand happy. Wasn't trying to work opening at all.

I have to say I was a little dissapointed with Cleverley. Such an articulate guy, he speaks very well and I do think he spoke at the right "respect" level to Bellew given the two performances. However, he really offered nothing constructive in terms of analysis, just using generic phrases. I shouldn't use someone analysis skills to assess their own level, but I couldn't help but wonder if Cleverley had really spotted the mistakes... all he kept saying when Clarke tried to put him on the spot as to what Tony could do different was "be less sloppy".

[TheCobra]

Ajisafe showed to me some of the class I had seen from him when he KO'd Adie Whitmore. If Ajisafe just had a bit more confidence and belief then I think he could actually become a really decent operator and get to british title level.

Bellew seemed to let frustration get the better of him, which meant he boxed hot-headed and lost any sort of gameplan. This is a worry to me, I'm sure he will learn from it cos not every fight is gona go his way, sometimes there are gona be times when his opponents are just clever and won't let him tee off easy. That is not the time to get frustrated or he could get himself into some trouble.

Main worry for me was that there seemed to be no plan B, it was 'dangle out the left and then try and bring through a hard straight right'. After 4 rounds Ajisafe warmed into the fight and figured it out, got ducking and started to see most the shots coming. Where were the uppercuts, lateral movement, feints etc etc?

That's the major difference I see in Bellew and Cleverly. When Cleverly was coming through in his first few fights he straight away had that 'cleverness' to pardon the pun. He is a thinking fighter and can change his gameplan to suit a fight, he can be patient and use his hand speed/skills or he can win with pressure and toughness if he feels that will do the job, his power is gradual and comes from his hand speed, but with time he is bulking up and starting to carry a good dig.

Bellew at the moment looks like he needs to improve on the 'guile' side of things and not get hot headed in the fight, I guess when people have been falling over in previous fights it can be easy to get addicted to that power, but speed, skill and clever thinking will always win over out and out power.

Havng said all that, I do agree Ajisafe doesn't exactly have the profile of a man to look good against, 6'2 tall, southpaw Ingle fighter who's only lost once in a 3 round Prizefighter match!