Why isn't John Murray higher profile?

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Why isn't John Murray higher profile?

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Following on from the other thread about Murray being forgotten i think its fair to pose the question....Why doesn't Murray get more attention in general amongst the fans and within the sport?

He's a Manc and Manchester has a good fight following. He has an entertaining style and is a quality operator. He also gives good honest interviews, and seems a nice enough fella. So why isn't he catching the attention the way he should be?

Is his problem simply a promotional one?
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was there a good turnout yesterday?
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lurkyshaka wrote:Following on from the other thread about Murray being forgotten i think its fair to pose the question....Why doesn't Murray get more attention in general amongst the fans and within the sport?

He's a Manc and Manchester has a good fight following. He has an entertaining style and is a quality operator. He also gives good honest interviews, and seems a nice enough fella. So why isn't he catching the attention the way he should be?

Is his problem simply a promotional one?
Yes.
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If he was with Warren or Hatton he'd be a lot bigger than he is by now. So yes, it is a promotional problem, doesn't fight enough, doesn't get enough good press and hasn't as yet had the meaningful and publicity generating fights that he could have had with a better/more powerful promoter.
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Two words answer this question.

Wrong Promoter
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I think on the whole "Meaty" Mick Hennessy is a very good promoter indeed.

However - with that said - the longer John Murray's career goes on the longer I think Mick could have done so much more for him with regards to Murray's profile with the general public.
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Because he has yet to win Wimbledon...








































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30-0, still at Euro level....
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carlbcfc wrote:30-0, still at Euro level....
He had a short amateur career and is still young, so I don't think this is a problem!
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Spud wrote:I think on the whole "Meaty" Mick Hennessy is a very good promoter indeed.

However - with that said - the longer John Murray's career goes on the longer I think Mick could have done so much more for him with regards to Murray's profile with the general public.
always got the impression that murray wasn't really "one of the boys", in the hennessy stable. regeardless of who's attitude this is down to.

recall hennessy fighters ringside being pretty open about wanting murray to lose to thaxton and mcallister and saw lots of funereal faces near the promoter after murray v meager.
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carlbcfc wrote:30-0, still at Euro level....
and rated in world top 10 by ring mag and some major sanctioning bodies, one of whom put him up for a world title elim (though the opponent, daniel estrada, would lose his next fight)...
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winkveron wrote:
carlbcfc wrote:30-0, still at Euro level....
He had a short amateur career and is still young, so I don't think this is a problem!
Ahh, was not aware of that.
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think it was only 24 ama fights?
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That was Murray last fight with hennessy on current deal!
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Autobarn wrote:always got the impression that murray wasn't really "one of the boys", in the hennessy stable. regeardless of who's attitude this is down to.

recall hennessy fighters ringside being pretty open about wanting murray to lose to thaxton and mcallister and saw lots of funereal faces near the promoter after murray v meager.
Why would he be unpopular?
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Spud wrote:I think on the whole "Meaty" Mick Hennessy is a very good promoter indeed.
:o :o :o Based on what Spud? His fighters have public profiles that would rival Lord Lucan's and the man tries to do deals for world champions based on handshakes :roll:
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His PR is crap. The likes of Froch should be known by everybody in the UK at least by now.
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Horse wrote:
Autobarn wrote:always got the impression that murray wasn't really "one of the boys", in the hennessy stable. regeardless of who's attitude this is down to.

recall hennessy fighters ringside being pretty open about wanting murray to lose to thaxton and mcallister and saw lots of funereal faces near the promoter after murray v meager.
Why would he be unpopular?
not saying he's unpopular, just from the footage i've seen of hennessy shows, when you look in the front rows, you see interesting stuff
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Re: Why isn't John Murray higher profile?

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The simple answer is wrong promoter he should go with Warren
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Ive always thought it odd Murray employed Mick Marsden as manager when he was already at title level.It indicates Gallagher and Hennessey needed a go between.
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So why is he still there? I am sure Warren would love him.
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Autobarn wrote:
Spud wrote:I think on the whole "Meaty" Mick Hennessy is a very good promoter indeed.

However - with that said - the longer John Murray's career goes on the longer I think Mick could have done so much more for him with regards to Murray's profile with the general public.
always got the impression that murray wasn't really "one of the boys", in the hennessy stable. regeardless of who's attitude this is down to.

recall hennessy fighters ringside being pretty open about wanting murray to lose to thaxton and mcallister and saw lots of funereal faces near the promoter after murray v meager.
You are completely correct in my opinion.

With Team Hennessy if you are in then you are well looked after - if you are a perceived outsider then its survival of the fittest - purely an opinion of course!!! :TU:
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Murray will leave will go hattons that's the question!
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hatton has a piece of some good manchester action right now - next week's bill, for instance, featuring foster jr, morris and crolla. probably martin murray as well and some others i might have forgotten. and of course he has TV dates on sky sports.

but after his scandal, and with him in rehab, do ppl really want to sign with him?

murray's been on hennessy shows since when, 2006? that's a long time and with that time frame you'd think he must have re-signed with mick before. how many more fights does he have left, and will he go back with hennessy?
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That was his last fight with hennessy of current deal!
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